September 2013 - The Beginning of the Bumps

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frog just want to send my best wishes also. We decided not to have the nuchal because I didn't want to face this decision if it came to it - I can only imagine how hard it is for you. The literature I read when making a decision said that over 95% of women who are classed as high risk and have further testing are fine and have no abnormalities. It really is such a slim chance. Also, the test is not 100% conclusive so it never totally rules it out, nor does it rule out anything else which may or may not get picked up at the 20wk scan. I guess what I'm trying to say, n a round-about way is there are so many possibilities and risks in pregnancy (and in life!)...this is just one and a slim chance at that. Stay positive and good luck x

I am being positive....DP has returned home, and said he feels bad that it was pretty much his decision to have nuchal testing. He now says that he doesn't think we should have the amnio. I think I agree, he's researched lots of stats and thinks the risk is higher of mc, which is true. Have called my surgery but can't speak to me till Wednesday. The jury is still out

Oh frog you poor thing What a spot to be in. 1:140 is still really low though - I'd fancy my chances if someone said I had a 139:140 chance of winning the lottery for example. If it was me, I would not have the amnio - but I'm not best placed to comment as we asked not to have the tests as we knew we wouldn't act on it. As some others have already said I think you need to decide what you would do if the amnio came back positive before deciding whether to have it done. If the answer is nothing, then I would suggest don't have it, maybe do a bit of reading on DS just in case (we will anyway) but then just focus on that 139. If you would act on a positive result then it's a harder decision as then it becomes 0.7% chance of DS vs up to 1% chance of mc caused by amnio, in which case I'm inclined to agree with your DH that its not a risk worth taking. Big hugs to you xx

Yy to stitch like stretchy pains - especially when I try and rush/walk fast. Ouchy. And yes also to the constant thirst - I've been a teeny bit worried that it might be a sign of GD but if dr google told eek that its normal then I won't worry just yet. Much.

manoodle I haven't been anywhere near a set of scales since my booking appt - I'd already gained a couple of kilos then, although some of that will have been Christmas chub. Am dreading next week's appt & weigh in!

Argh sorry for the kisses, forgot where I was for a minute!

I quite liked the kisses, thanks kitten! I think you summed up exactly what I'm thinking. We've spoken about what we would do and have ( I think) decided that we are more comfortable with the 0.7% risk than the 1%. I can't even believe we are considering such small odds, but they're not going away. Am still going to get as much info as poss before making decision.

Just wanted to stop by and give you a virtual hug frog!!!!

Sorry to hear how stressed you are Frog. But I just looked at the numbers and basically the difference in low risk (ie 1 in 150) and your result (1 in 140) is 0.03%. Which is nothing. And as everyone else has pointed out, you have a 139 in 140 chance of a healthy baby. So the odds are on your side.
my friend who had a 1 in 30 result from her tests (and now has a happy healthy baby girl) pointed out to me that no matter what your estimated risk is, whether its 1 in 10 or 1 in 1,000 we could always be that 1 person.
Not sure if any of that helps you in any way. But I know how hard it can be when these things eat away at you.

I'm glad not the only one with stitch pains. Kitten I think.you might be right about the walking fast etc making it worse. I rushed for my bus yesterday morning and it seemed a little sore all day after that. But was particularly bad in the night when I lay down. Tried not to let it worry me too much as I know we should expect a few twinges and pains at this stage. But it's just so hard not to panic.

kitten do you think they will weigh us at 16 week appt? Arrrrgh that's on Monday for me! Why do we need weighing again?? Am going to strop and refuse!

frog - thinking of you, only you and your dh can know what's right for you but DH and I decided we wouldn't have screening tests unless the risk was at least more likely than 1:100, probaby a good chunk more (like 1:80 or more, maybe 1:50) and then we wouldn't terminate but we felt if the risk was that high we'd want to know so we could prepare and more importantly for us, prepare our friends and family to welcome a child with downs syndrome.

People with pains - yes, i've got that today, in fact, i think i may have grown a whole bump just today! I didn't have one yesterday... (16+1 today).
My pains are in my obliques on both sides.. and I almost think i can see a bit of very light bruising, i really hope my stomach is not going to go all blue, veiny, stretchmarky

Frog I just want to add my support to you both. We'd said we wouldn't test further tho of course until it happens you can never be sure. Talk talk talk and do what's best for you both.

I've had no real pains, or any of the stretchy 'smile' others mentioned a while back....am 15+1 today. Anyone else? Anything I have had has been pretty quickly attributed to wind. Seeing midwife on Thurs sohope she tries to find heartbeat for bit of reassurance.

At the thought of creamtea chucking a strop when the midwife pulls out the scales!

dorita looks like we are date buddies - I'm 15+2 today and seeing the midwife thurs as well

Have woken woken up STARVING this morning...still can't get get used to all this having to eat breakfast lark though, I don't normally bother with food until mid morning. Last Saturday though I forgot to eat and hopped out of bed an went straight to tesco to beat the rush....regretted that when I nearly passed out down the fruit aisle!

Ready, swym about the call maybe spooking me, but I think having read some people's odds on here of 1:907543 etc this is what worried me. If I hadn't seen those then no, I probably wouldn't be worried.
DP asked, rightly that if I find out that everything is fine via amnio, but then miscarry... How would I feel?
I probably wouldn't forgive myself. But then I compare this to the fact that we probably would act upon bad results, but it carries a lower risk.... Oh I don't know, this is doing my head in.

Morning unjust to let anyone know who is interested - Next sale is on and they have a few nice things in the maternity section.
Desperately need new underware need to stop emphasizing the size of my muffin top but finding it really difficult to find something that looks good and not like my mom would wear

Charl I am now at the stage where I desperately need some new gear! I stuck to the same Elle McPh bras I had before but in bigger sizes and I'm happy with them! Although they take a week or so to lose that annoying itchy new bra feeling.
50% in Mamas & Papas too if anybody is interested! Might pop in there today and get a few more essentials like sterilisers and things like that.
Oh! And last one in my sale bulletin! I discovered tesco is really really good for baby things! I was doing my online shop the other day and clicked into the baby section for a nose- they had lots of (various) % off things like breast pumps, nappy disposal units etc.

Did anyone watch 'we're having a baby' on bbc3? Worth iplayering if u missed it.

As a tip: I bought some jeans with a medium band from next the other day and they're really good at this stage - they slip down a bit occassionally if I've been cycling or bending down a lot but not bad really and they never show my pants or any bum clevage.
They're the only maternity stuff i can wear at the moment as i don't have a discernable bump for over the bump stuff, just a sort of roundedness in my stomach that makes my normal jeans cut in.

I just bought this: www.next.co.uk/g956s1#846021g95 it's only £20 in the sale! and as it's jersey I reckon it can work for all of spring and chilly summer days too.
BUT i'm worried after reading the reviews that i've bought it too small. I went for my pre-pregnancy size but i'm not sure maternity clothes really allow for increased bust size :(

link didn't work www.next.co.uk/g956s1#846021g95 - I guess i'll be moving the buttons to make it fit.

Just wanted to chime in with my support for Frog. What a hard situation to be in.

Don't know if it's helpful, but our decision making process started with the decision that we would refuse any diagnostic test with any risk of mc. Mainly because we would continue regardless of the outcome. Having made that decision, the screening tests, which after all don't really tell you anything definitive, seemed a bit irrelevant and not worth the potential worry. After all as pp have said, you could get 1:100000 and still be the 1, or 1:20 and still chances are all is absolutely fine.

In your shoes, I expect I would decide I liked my chances and carry on regardless with no further testing. But no right or wrong answers to this at all. Good luck in making your decision.

Binary- I then followed it up with a hot cross bun......

I've only bought maternity (non underwired!) bras as mine were getting really uncomfy. Sadly my gazongas have got smaller (weightloss through sickness) and I'm a whole 1/5 cup sizes down, but on the plus I got two lovely comfy bras in mothercare for £16. As I'm sure I'll change again, I'm keen not to spend too much. Trying not to get too excited about two friends coming over next week with a bagful of maternity clothes for me! yay!

Anyone else here a naturally "warm" person? I am, and the thought of being pregnant in summer is slowly dawning on me. What the flying f8ck am I going to wear? I'm a "sweater" too and have to dress at least smart-cas for work. Last year I bought some boring ugly walking sandles which I love to death, but I need to basically wear thin black (don't show up sweat) clothes! It's going to be nofun!!

Elle McPherson does maternity bra's....saw them in John Lewis (but sadly they don't go up to a G!

I didn't get weighed at my 16 week appt but I am low risk all round to start with.

Frog
Have the Harmony Test. I've sent you a PM about it. It's a no-brainer in your situation (if you can scrape together £400 for it - money well spent I think). Zero risk to baby and result comes back either as positive for Down's (also tests for Edward's and Patau) or as a 1 in 10,000 risk (I.e. your baby is fine).
Search for it in the antenatal test thread if you want more info....

I really wish it was that easy, I've looked at it, believe me I have and its going to be almost 600 for scan and test. This might be completely doable for people living closer to London earning more money, but to us it really isn't. I have no idea where we would find this money from and it just makes me feel terrible that I can't do the right thing here.