May 2013- boys , girls or the unknown? Over half way there!

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Hi all, new had for may 2013!

I should have said I ended up going to the hospital as I was so concerned, I didn't have a Doppler so couldn't check myself. If you feel that worried then there is no harm in going to get peace of mind x

Thanks 10 and ng1412 - i will have my next appointment in 3 weeks time at 28 weeks.

Cros posted with beaver before so appologies for the me, me,me. Beaver hope you're ok and are getting things checked out asap.

Fingers crossed all is well Beaver.

LittleS that's horrible! Talk about being dismissive. Can you ring the antenatal centre and describe your concerns (lack of movement, BP) and see what they say? Much better if you can get checked by someone who can reassure you, than wait another 3 weeks.

LittleS is this your first sorry I can't remember how many children everyone has.For peace of mind I wld go and get re checked by someone else.However,If it makes you feel better I was last seen at 16 weeks obv had scan at 20 weeks and don't see midwife again until 28 weeks.Its my third but I have a 7 year age gap so feels like first.

Won't not Dont

beaver hope you're getting checked out and everything is ok.

little that really does sound like an awful appointment, tbh I'd ring the hospital and ask to speak to the superior of MWs and make a complaint. And definitely get checked out if you're worried, or at least ring your usual MW tomorrow and see if you can get another appointment sooner.

beaver have you gone to the ante natal clinic to be checked over? I'm sure it will be fine, but better to have the reassurance. As beaut said, there can be lots of reasons for bleeds at all stages of pg.

little & 10 what nightmare appointments for you both - it's a terrible sign of the overstretched NHS that the MW don't have the time to spend with you and talking about your concerns. Do you have any chance to see your normal MW's before the next scheduled ones at 28 weeks? Failing that, little, I would recommend calling the ante-natal/labour ward people about your concerns with movement, just to set your mind at rest - even at this stage the babies still can 'hide' and you don't feel them so much, but better to have the reassurance.

How are you doing 10 other than the horrid appointment? Hope you had a better nights sleep last night!

terra boo to nits, that's rubbish. Hope the pharmacy can sort you out with some good stuff.

Our new bed arrived today - so excited to have a king size again!! But, I helped DH to move our old one into the guest room last night, and so am in a lot of pain when moving today. Can't wait to go home!

Hi little. Your bp I actually more than within normal range. No sure what site you were looking at on google, but 120/70 is normal bp. Your 100/50 something before would be considered low. But, you are right, an increase is still an increase. And they are much more interested in that than the actual number. However. She had wound you up wore hand. It doesn't take a lot to make your bp rise temporarily. I take mine daily because it's a bit on the high side. At home, mine is normally between 115/60 and 120/70. But at the hospital it's sometimes higher than 140/85! But that's after a busy drive and an even more anxious time finding a car parking space.

As for the rest of the experience, totally unfair. Do you have your normal MW number. Mine gave me her mobile and told me to ring it if concerned. If you have, ring her tomorrow during normal working day, an tell her about the appointment and movements etc. I'm sure she'll get you in sooner or send you to the day assessment unit if you're worried.
Did you have an anterior (is that in front?) placenta? That can mask movements. With my first, I didn't feel any movements to well over 21 weeks and then they weren't definite until later. When we say we feel kicks, mine still aren't like a foot punching out of my bump! But more like little taps. It's strange thing to explain and it might be that you're feeling the same as us, but with nothing to compare to it may be different to what you expected.

Beaver hopefully you've been checked over by now. X x x

Hopefully you can read past all the typos.
Did you find a hb with your own doppler? Mine has moved loads since I last checked. Oh, and my movements are still very low down. Nowhere where you'd expect.

Little Forgot to say with my first didn't feel hardly any movement until quite late and even when I did it never felt like definite kicking.He just didn't move much.Second moved loads from about 20 weeks and this time I have felt swishing but not good kicks until last week(week 23) now he seems to move/ kick most at night or after I've eaten chocolate.Which in itself is quite often.

Anyone else over eating.Ive eaten almost a whole pack of choc hob nobs today

little I second maybe that your BP is now more within normal range, that's about what mine is usually when I'm not pregnant, though its been low so far this pregnancy. When I had PE with DS my BP was generally around 180/90, though top number went up to 210 at one point! Mind you that was just after I'd been told I had to stay in hospital another night, though I was still surprised how much it could suddenly rise with just the slightest bit of stress. Also mine still seems to have days where I don't feel much, it seems to be on a 48hrcycle at the moment, today I've only felt a couple of taps/wriggles but yesterday it was almost constant movement.

Also did she check your wee? If BP rise was an early indication of pre-eclampsia there would likely have been protein in your wee, always was once mine started rising.

Afternoon All,

I hope you all had good weekends.

Beaver ? I hope you ahve been checked over and they have found an innocuous reason for your bleed. Let us know how you are doing.

LittleSpade ? As others have said that does not sound good and I think you need to call the midwife coordinator and ask for another appointment to check your BP and reassure you. Don?t worry about what google says about BP, the reading you got today could well be increased because you were already stressed by the midwife, many people get ?white coat hypertention? when their BP rises when checked by medics and I imagine that is very likely if it is a medic you are worried about. The number you go today is not too bad but it is a rise and any rise needs checking. Did she check your wee? If there was no protein then that is reassuring from the perspective of pre-eclampsia risk. If she did not check your week then she really was useless!

Terra ? sorry you are so tired although I think its amazing you are coping at all with three kids and a pregnancy, not to mentioned kids that wake in the night. You should get your iron checked as I have felt so much better since taking Spatone.

Maybe and Beaver ? I am glad your DH (Maybe) and your dad (Beaver) are both doing well and are fit and healthy now. My father was killed by a stroke when he was only 38 and I was 5 months old. His wasn?t related to a heart condition or anything but he had high BP and was on meds and then his doctor put him on some meds for some other issue and the two meds reacted badly together and caused a massive brain bleed. My poor Mum watched him collapse as she breastfed me, I only really appreciate the full tragedy of that now I have kids of my own.

Scooby ? congrats on moving out and getting your psycho buyers to follow through at last. I hope you survive the fortnight at your parents!

10 ? thinking of you and willing you towards 28 weeks. I am surprised you had to go to that midwife appointment now you are under consultant led care, I never see a MW. I am glad your DH will be home with you for a little bit now.

Sea ? have you got the heart monitor off now? When will they tell you the results?

Sisi ? welcome back. Your early starts sound horrendous. Well done to you for coping with them.

I have another placental artery scan on Wednesday. I think I told you all that I had high pressure readings at 20 weeks. I was a little concerned but the consultant seemed relaxed about it, then yesterday we had Sunday lunch with some friends and the wife is a consultant paediatrician and she said she would prepare to deliver early, maybe as early as 30 weeks - because of the scans and the fact I have a little protein in my urine. This totally shocked me as last time my pre-eclampsia was late onset and my babies are always huge. Anyway, I will talk to the consultant about it on Wednesday. I feel guilty now as I delivered DCs 1 and 2 and a hospital with an amazing reputation for its NICU. This time I chose a different hospital which still has a good NICU but is not as specialist. I chose it out of convenience and now I am worried that the one time I may need the NICU I have prioritised myself over specialist facilities.

Thank you for your comments everyone. Sorry to hear you also had a bad experience 10 especailly after everything you've already been through!

I have discussed it with DH and he's urged me to call the midwife led birthing unit where both this midwife and my normal midwife are based tomorrow, to try to speak to my normal midwife and explain my conerns so that i can get some reassurance and hopefully be seen again before 28 weeks to double check everything is ok. This re-iterates what many of you have also said so I think its given me the confidence to do it. I'll let you know how i get on.

Regarding the blood pressure i think i was worried about a combination of the rise from previous readings and the value and although its most likely fine and simply due to her winding me up I guess i was just looking for some more reassurance that it'd be monitored and/or didn't indicate any problems at this stage. She did take a urine sample but told me to put it through a hatch in the toilet wall whereas i normally give it to my midwife and she tests it in front of me and tells me the result so i can only assume that todays sample was tested and was ok just via a different procedure as she didn't say anything.

Thanks maybe for your description of kicks and beaut for your reassurance. I think i am starting to feel movement in last 2 to 3 weeks but as yes i have an anterior placenta, its my first so i have nothing to compare it to and don't really know what to expect, and i've been worried by lots of others on here describing hard kicks that they and their DH can see/feel on the outside which is totally not my experience, so i went to the appointment looking for reassurance and totally didn't get it so just got more worried.

I hope that beaver you got checked out and got some reassurance?

Try not to worry too much artigene - perhaps you can discuss your concerns with the consultant at your next scan appointment? O r at your next mw appointment if you have one coming up soon?

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little I'm on dc3 have anterior placenta and have really only felt definate kicks this last couple of days currently 24 + 2 xx

I've also fell on my bum this morning in the ice :-( phoned midwife for advice n she said as long as no bleeding/pain etc all shud be ok have an appointment tomorrow morning so will get checked over properly :-) good job av got quite a bit of padding haha Xx

Hi little that sound absolutely abysmal I'd be really at such shoddy service and pretty nervous of this midwife looking after any of my patients, please don't panic about your BP but do make an appointment to get it rechecked again in the next week or so to make sure it was just stress and not a genuine rise of more than 20 systolic (the top number) also bring some more wee for them to check, best not to muck around with these things. I would be tempted to write a letter high lighting your concerns - pretty much what you've written here - to your health board, this lady sounds like a total numpty.

beaver so sorry to hear about your bleed, of course there are lots of not concerning reasons to have a bit of a bleed in pregnancy but you're doing the right thing getting it checked out, any news yet? Hope all fine, xx

Hi all,

Only have 2 mins so just wanted to say hello to everyone and hope everything is ok beaver?

Terra I feel your pain - although not as much! DS wet the bed last night which is so unusual for him that I wasn't prepared so was up for ages changing the bed etc, then couldn't get back to sleep afterwards as I'd been up for so long with the lights on! Yawn.

LittleS yes I'd definitely just get rechecked so it doesn't weigh on your mind...what an odd appt by the sound of it. I wouldn't worry about the movement thing though, everyone feels different things at different stages and you'll be getting kicks soon enough.

10 I'm also surprised that you're under midwife care rather than consultant after what happened recently...and she sounds crap also! Are they going to scan you again soon to see if your tear has healed a bit? There's no trace of mine now so fingers crossed the same thing will happen with yours.

shelly hope you're not feeling bruised - ouch!

Thanks Artigene... really sorry to hear of your stressful days Beaver and Littlespade. Fingers crossed for you BeAver, when I was 8 weeks I had a bleed ( I know that's a long time ago), but they told me that 3 in 10 of all women will have some bleeding in pregnancy at some point and sometimes there doesn't really seem to be a reason - so hope that's you.

As for your midwife Littlespade I was getting quite angry just reading your post, so definitely worth keeping a copy of what you wrote to demonstrate just how bad she was. Mine isn't great actually, comes across as if been doing job for too many years and a bit fake and bored!

Thanks for all the posts on crib versus Moses basket, think am going to go for a crib this time. I don't think I kept my daughter in room with me for more than a few weeks last time, tho was good few years ago, sounds like the advice to keep them with you has strengthened.

first offer of a seat on tube today.... Weird now I really feel pregnant - haha, I guess I look it too.

beaver I had a random bleed at 23 weeks with DS. it was bright red and even a little clotty. i rang midwives at hosp and they told me to come in. they monitored his heart rate and a consultant examined me. she said she thought it was from my cervix and not to worry. she also warned me it may happen again. it did happen now and again but not as bad as that first time. and I never felt I needed to get it checked again. DS was a healthy 9lb and overdue. just wanted to let you know that it can be normal and inconsequential to bleed...but do get checked out

art I've been led to believe you can change hospital at any point in your pregnancy if you want to? perhaps look in to this if it would help you feel happier?

I have deleted the mumsnet app off my phone as I think I'm obsessing over the pregnancy and baby name forums. need to take a step back! so now I will only get to come on Mumsnet when I'm on the tablet (like now!) to help reestablish a healthy balance

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lolly that made me laugh. Totally know what you mean.

artigene I changed quite late in with my last pregnancy. It was definitely te best decision at the time. The new hospital was closer and much better equipped for dealing with a high risk pregnancy like mine.
I'm also consultant led, 10 but have to also see midwife at 'normal' appts. This was the same last time too. I was til my hospital clinic wouldn't deal with the routine stuff like forms and breastfeeding classes etc.
Talking of which. The ones put on by my team of midwives were dreadful last time. I don't think I'll bother this time. Not sure that's the best decision really.

Tell me it's like riding a bike.

Also. For those of you that have had an elcs. How much help and for how long did you need it at home afterwards. I haven't actually decided on it yet, but the pelvic floor has gotten much worse during the pregnancy and I'm petrified labour will make the damage permanent and even more dramatic (it's getting worse than normal stress incontinence) . Just worried about 'after'. DH has two jobs. One of which I think he's expecting to do even though the other will be paternity leave. Will I cope with baby and 3.5 yr old?

And also wanted to add, artigene you story of your dad bought tears to my eyes. My DH had his stroke when my DD was 6 months. We were left 3 days without any answers. We thought he had a brain tumour. He was adamant that he was so grateful he had had DD before hand. Your poor mum.

Beaver hope you have managed to get bleed investigated and all is well. For those having useless MW appointments I would go straight back if it were me, when you know a different MW is on, that is terrible, their job is to reassure as well.

Have a good day all