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April 2013....from Flumper to Bump! (Part 4)

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toobreathless · 22/10/2012 22:13

Over here!

Another place for us April 2013 Ladies!

We have old thread & stats threads as below:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1569780-April-2013-part-3-scan-scan-scan

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1560543-April-2013-stats-thread

As the days darken & winter approaches may this thread bring us all blossoming bumps, peaceful nights & more friendship and laughter.

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Teapig · 19/11/2012 20:15

Congratulations empress and sneezy! So great to hear more fantastic scan news.

Good to hear your little one is hanging in there mama and the placenta is as it was, that has to be good news.

kellestar, we're scan buddies. My scan is a week on Thursday too. Hope your cough clears up.

Bona I'm like you in heaving days where I feel pretty big and others where I almost feel pre-pg normal.

My feet have swollen up for the first time today and it's made my shoes rub, ouch.

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Jo1984uk · 19/11/2012 20:45

Congrats on all the lovely scan news, keep it coming :-)

birdbrain the scan takes around 20-30 minutes but it really depends on babys position as well. I had to go for a walk and go back after 10-15 mins to see if baby had moved. She hadn't so I went back the next day. Was a lovely second scan though as the lady doing the scan was an ex-parent from work who I know quite well. She gave me another really detailed scan even though it was only meant to be a quick one to look at heart. Baby was trying to suck her thumb it was so sweet!!

username I am also suffering when turning over in bed. Feels like knives are being stabbed into my belly!! Am hoping my body will get used to the fact it needs to stretch a bit more (ok probably a lot more!!)

Am looking a bit pregnant, my Mum had a comment from someone in new look the other day while I was trying on maternity tops "it is hard when you have a bit of a belly isn't it". She had to explain I was nearly 5 months pregnant! I think i've put on around 8lbs so far, my bum and legs are expanding (struggled to fit in my hunter boots this morning) but bump is still quite small...

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HavingALittleFaithBaby · 19/11/2012 20:49

Evening all!

Firstly congratulations to those with good scan news, how lovely! :)

I'm very interested re weight gain. I'm similar to you ratbag - though a bit taller I think at 5'5''?! I'd lost about 9lb when I got my BFP - was told to get my BMI under 30 so they could refer me for IVF ironically! So I was about 13st 2 when I got pregnant, lost about 4lb through morning sickness. I've gained that back but nothing since. I don't weigh myself regularly but I seem to vary between 13st 2 and 13 dead and I'm 18 weeks tomorrow. Since I'm on the larger side I'm quite pleased not to have gained yet. I put it down to eating small amounts often (when I work 12 hour shifts I have 4 meals a day) and a change of activity going back on to the ward. My friend is a dietitian and she said to aim to gain 7-10kg if your BMI is over 30 when you get pregnant.

Still 3 weeks til my scan!

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JessieEssex · 19/11/2012 21:08

Hi all

I've put on about 10 pounds so far - was 11st0 to start with (am 5'6''). I was 10 stone before pregnant with DD and put on 30 pounds, so am assuming/hoping it will be about the same this time. Have got quite a pronounced bump now - very round and all at the front - apparently this is indicative of it being a boy, but it was exactly the same with DD (and everyone said she would be a boy!)

Great to hear all the scan news.

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EssexWelsh · 19/11/2012 21:14

Well done on scans all but amazing news sneezy, fellow teacher so know how hard/how much pressure to get outstanding particular when you head was clearly elsewhere, what a day, hope you got an extra side as a treat!!

lutrinae be careful with raspberry leaf tea as in 3rd trimester can be used to induce labour, so shouldn't drink at all I would believe.

Caladria · 19/11/2012 23:30

Wish I could be worrying about putting on weight right now. There's norovirus/food poisoning (no one is sure yet) going round work and I've spent the day feeling sick (though not throwing up) and paranoid about whether I've caught something bad for small person. Aargh. And I have to wait until tomorrow to call midwife.

LikeCandy · 20/11/2012 07:58

Caladria I had norovirus last week, saw GP after 24hrs clear and then had 20w scan the day after, little one all fine. Apparently bugs like that are not passed on to baby. I was violently ill for 36hrs and she was still ok! Try not to worry :)

On the subject on weight gain - my midwife was sniffy about my starting weight (50kg) but at my 16w appointment didn't want to weight me again, and when I asked if I could leap on the scales I was told they don't monitor gain at all?! I think I've put on 4kg so far. Depending on what I'm wearing I either look preggo or just chunky!!

G'luck to today's scanees!

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Mama1980 · 20/11/2012 08:10

Morning all
Well done sneezy hope you enjoyed the Chinese! :)
Feeling almost awake this morning so am online shopping for Christmas, am enjoying going a bit overboard this year Blush especially as if I'm still pregnant fingers crossed then I will be in hospital. Ds s birthday is Boxing Day as well.
Everyone has just walked down to the dining room thing and waved at me, there's another woman here whose waters have gone at 32 weeks she's been in a couple of weeks now. Wouldn't wish this on anyone but we both agree its nice to have someone to chat with.

EmpressMatilda · 20/11/2012 08:32

Regarding weight gain I was about 9st7 when I got pregnant. I was weighed at booking appointment and was the same. Neither midwife or I have weighed me since. I suspect I''ve put on a bit too much as I''ve increased how much I eat and am happily tucking into things like flapjack, pasties and fish & chips which are normally just an occasional treat. The first place I notice weight again is my face and it's looking rather pudgy.

I was a bit depressed about it but I''ve given up worrying now. It's cold and I'm constantly hungry. I''ll make myself keep up the swimming and walking as much as I can but tbh in pregnancy I think it's a case of don't push yourself too hard. Join the gym next May! My local one even his a creche!

About the scan -mine took about 40 minutes which is longer than usual because we had a trainee (though she was very good and I didn't mind the extra look at my son!) There were no further tests or snything but you might want to cgeck whether they do that at yours. I said to work that I would be late in and couldn't't specify a time though I said I'd call if it looked like I'd be later than midday.

Good luck!

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lutrinae · 20/11/2012 08:34

Thanks for the warning Essex I will be careful. Apparently my grandmother swore by it for helping with labour & drank it through all her pregnancies but this sounds like a bit of an old wives tale.

Scan this evening. So excited! Squee!

Caladria · 20/11/2012 09:04

Thank you LikeCandy!

aufaniae · 20/11/2012 09:14

Raspberry leaf tea is safe and meant to be drunk in the 3rd trimester. It's popular misconception that raspberry leaf tea is drunk to bring on labour, so if you've been led to believe that you're in good company! But it's not true at all.

I studied herbal remedies a long time ago. I'm no expert, but the woman running the course was. It was from her that I originally learnt that raspberry leaf tea is safe for pregnancy.

The point of drinking it is it's meant to be help ease labour. It also contains vitamins and minerals which are beneficial in pregnancy.

The following is taken from the first page I found via google which covered it, but it's fairly standard stuff, if you want a more medical source, it shouldn't be hard to find.

The benefits of raspberry leaf tea

"Raspberry leaf tea is nutrient rich and contains many of the vitamins and minerals necessary for a healthy pregnancy including vitamins A, C, E and B, magnesium, calcium and iron. Consuming raspberry leaf tea not only helps mother and baby to get all the nutrients they need but can also help to replenish a new mothers stores after the birth.

Raspberry leaf tea also contains the alkaloid 'fragine' which is said to strengthen and tone the muscles of the uterus, helping them to contract more efficiently during labour. Research has found that taking raspberry leaf during the weeks prior to delivery helps to shorten the second stage of labour by making contractions more effective . Some studies have also found that it reduces the need for an assisted delivery (i.e. an emergency cesarean or use of forceps or ventouse).

Sipping raspberry leaf tea during and after the birth is also said to help the uterus contract back down to size, reduce after birth bleeding and help initiate the let down of breastmilk.

While there hasn't been a huge amount of research into this area, the general consensus does seem to be that drinking raspberry leaf tea during the latter stages of pregnancy can help to make for a 'better' labour with few side effects. "

"Its commonly believed that drinking raspberry leaf tea or taking raspberry leaf tablets will help to induce labour and as such this supplement is taken by many a pregnant woman keen to speed up their baby's arrival into the world. Unfortunately this is a misconception; raspberry leaf tea doesn't actually help to bring on labour at all. Having said this it is thought to have many other benefits for the birthing process and has been used as a labour-aid for hundreds of years."

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The only think my old tutor warned against was drinking too much of it. She said you don't want to overdo it and over-strengthen the muscles and get mega-strong contractions. But you'd have to drink an awful lot to drink too much IIRC - like ridiculous amounts!

If anyone wants to get some, Baldwins is a lovely company where you can buy herbs online.

You can buy organic raspberry leaves loose which is probably the best if you can be bothered with the faff (Looking at the picture I reckon you should keep it hidden from errant teenagers if you want to hold on to it though, looks slightly like something I came across in my own teenage years! Grin)

Or you can get tea bags too.

Thanks for the reminder, off to order some now! (Think I'll get one of each, so can have teabags when I'm not up for the faff!)

aufaniae · 20/11/2012 09:23

Ooh, about vitamin A, you may have heard we're not meant to take vitamin supplements with vitamin A in them. That's absolutely true as too much can be harmful to the baby. The NHS advises "Do not take vitamin A supplements, or any supplements containing vitamin A, as too much could harm your baby." and it's why if you take supplements they should be pregnancy supplements not general multi-vits.

However a Vitamin A deficiency can be harmful too! (Confusing this stuff!).
IIRC the kind of levels of vit A you get from most foods, and raspberry leaf tea are in the good-for-you range.

Here's sciencey link on the subject in case anyone's interested!

BonaDea · 20/11/2012 09:34

That's why it's always best to stick to a pregancny recommended supplement like pregnacare if you can - trying to strike the balance on what is good and what is too much I think would be way too tricky!

On raspberry leaf tea, that's something I've only heard mentioned as being good later in preganancy to kick of labour, so I would probably avoid for the time being!

aufaniae · 20/11/2012 09:46

"On raspberry leaf tea, that's something I've only heard mentioned as being good later in preganancy to kick of labour, so I would probably avoid for the time being!"

BonaDea, that's absolutely not true though.

Plenty of people drink it because they mistakenly think it brings on labour, but it really doesn't, I promise!

It would a real shame if people avoided it solely because of a fear it'd bring on labour because it's a totally unfounded fear, and it is actually a beneficial thing to take. (Or at the very least, harmless!) Have a read of my post above (very lengthy, sorry!) or look it up online. You will find plenty of people on forums such as this spreading the myth that it brings on labour, but any reputable source will confirm that it's not true.

It is recommended in the third trimester, to help ease labour, not start it!

jj247 · 20/11/2012 09:54

Thanks [aufaniae], one of my friends was just telling me about the benefits of raspberry leaf tea on Saturday, she drank it throughout her 3rd trimester, building up gradually to a few cups a day and swears it helped with her 2 super fast labours (4hrs for the first, an hour for the second!) I'm definitely going to be stocking up and will start drinking it in the New Year when I'm 24 weeks

[lutrinae] I've always suffered from restless leg syndrome but it had been getting fairly intolerable until I bought some compression tights a fortnight ago. Not the most attractive items as they are maternity and at the moment almost come up to my nipples, but just wearing them during the day has pretty much stopped my legs bothering me at night :)

www.pebbleuk.com/asp_pages/products.asp?CID=4&ID=5
I'm hoping they will also help prevent varicose veins which my Mum got terribly in pregnancy.

Finally got my scan date through, december 3rd, so getting nervous and excited thinking about it already. lovely to hear everyone else's scan news though. My friend bought us a chalkboard sign which said "__" days until our bump becomes a baby so we can now countdown properly, although I daresay it will all pass scarily fast once we're all into next year!

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jj247 · 20/11/2012 09:56

oh and I've put on 1.3kg so far (I don't want to weigh myself in lb as I'll know exactly what that means, whereas kg I can keep myself blissfully unaware!), although my waist is now 6 inches bigger than PG!

aufaniae · 20/11/2012 09:57

Also worth mentioning that if you want to take herbal teas as a medicine, you need to drink them regularly (like 3 cups a day perhaps, for some time). Drinking a few cups in the last week of pregnancy won't have any effect at all!

Also, if you really hate the taste, don't force yourself. Once of the principles underlying herbal medicine is that you should learn to listen to what your body is telling you. And if you hate it, your body is sending you a strong message not to have it!

Maybe I should say - I'm not a herbal-medicine-obsessed person by the way! Definitely a supporter of the NHS and into a science-based approach. But equally I'm aware that there are a lot of herbs out there which are beneficial, and much of our medicine is based on herbs (aspiring was synthesized from willow bark for example). I find chamomile (to sooth) calendula (for skin stuff) and aloe (for burns) to be very useful family medicines for example. That's my take anyway!

aufaniae · 20/11/2012 10:02

.. although (and I will shut up about this in a minute I promise!) that 3 cups thing is a about teas in general.

I'm not sure what the recommended dose is specifically for raspberry leaf in pregnancy, I'll look it up and let you know!

Does anyone else know?

aufaniae · 20/11/2012 10:03

*aspirin not aspiring!

somewherebecomingrain · 20/11/2012 11:02

aufaniae i love your expert comment! keep it coming! first toxo, now raspberry leaf, whatever next! it's fascinating.

i am officially the fattest f---er on this thread. it's all gonna change i promise after the baby.

xxx

trying2bpos · 20/11/2012 11:22

Hmm on the raspberry leaf tea debate I have a friend who researches premature labour and he said to avoid so will have to ask him to point me in the direction of some scientific material.

No idea how much I've gained but since Thurs my regular trousers that I am still wearing to work don't do up properly (I think they may be a little tight from just being washed though Grin).

Anyone else got a really strong gag reflex at the moment? Brushing teeth is particularly horrible!

Good luck for people being scanned today. And congrats on all the great scans and the great evening up of the sexes!

aufaniae · 20/11/2012 11:26

trying2bpos would be very interested to hear what he comes up with :)

aufaniae · 20/11/2012 11:50

I'm on one about raspberry leaf now Grin I want to know the truth!

Don't have much time now but I'll have a go later at looking up some proper science based stuff and see what I can find. From a first glance, I think what I'll find is that there has not been a lot of proper research, but what little there is seems to support that raspberry leaf makes for shorter labours with less intervention, the two studies mentioned here for example ...

This page mentions a couple of studies

trying2bpos very keen to hear from your friend. Either he knows something which will be very useful to us, or it's that even someone in the field has been swayed by myths. Interesting either way! :)

usernamegoeshere · 20/11/2012 12:20

oh God, I'm officially on a diet after my mum made a comment about me eating for 6. In fairness she is right, I should try to watch what I eat, but I get hungry every 2 hours no matter what I have eaten previously to that. Will try to focus more on cerial I think, since if I am genuinely hungry I don't think I should just wait till meal time.

Aufaniae I find your info really interesting as always, will definitely be trying raspberry tea leaf in third trimester.