graduates of the wine-and-shagging-after-mc thread come hither!

[wilderumpus]

Seeing as practically all of us have now got pg, here is a new home for all of us to come to carry on chatting after getting the BFP after our mcs. Today we are pregnant! :)

Hi all
Sorry for radio silence. Have been busy, but also trying not to obsess too much about pregnancy which sadly means not posting as much.

wild so glad your appt with consultant went well. It?s great that you got someone sympathetic, so often they are clueless in these emotional situations! She sounds very philosophical and nice.

Sorry some of you have had stressful times one and Sheldon - it is a huge change having a baby and emotionally overwhelming at times. But those together times with your DH are not going to go completely, you know. You still get to do some of that ? just that for a while at least you?ll have a baby with you too. The thing about babies is that they grow up fast, so soon enough you?ll be back to spending lots of quality time with your man again while they are at friend?s houses and parties, and school, etc etc. I know that seems way off, but believe me, it changes fast!
I am not a great one for change (in case something bad happens, and I get nostalgic) but having a baby is the most positive change ever, even if it doesn?t always seem that way. I think we need the 9 months to get our head round it, and it?s good to think like you are as you are preparing, mentally for the change. Anyway, sorry if that all sounded like I?m stating obvious!

one loads of luck with your scan, chances are it will go brilliantly and you will be a sobbing mess (in a good way) like the rest of us! Do let us know as soon as you know.

Wow wild that vodka sounds crazy? though I think I would have to object to making it seeing as I cannot actually consume it! Good that you don?t have the same principles .

All well here. Seemed to have got a bump and am now in maternity clothes, though still finding it hard what to wear ? some of them immediately make you look 6 months preggers, others are more discrete? Not actually working this Saturday which is nice but DH is working all weekend, so could be better. He has accrued a lot of holiday (from working more) so has a lot of free time coming up which I am very much looking forward to. Am trying to plan some dinner invitations/ nights out whilst I can just about bear them.

I?m seeing the nice home birth midwife next week. Am still wondering if there will be a heartbeat. But not going to worry about that just yet?. .

Hi Boo, sounds good trying to get some socialising in, and 'tis the season, or very soon anyway! Hope your hb midwife visit is a good one.

Wild I'm impressed you can be so Zen about it! Hope you've managed to get a lot done this weekend!

Right, we're heading out into the sunny day, hope you're all having nice Sundays!

Ooh yes it was nice and sunny here too today. How are you feeling one? I am so much more energetic & nausea-free that its almost worrying! I am hoping its normal - I'm 15 + 2. (But look about 25 weeks in some clothes, gulp).

I just watched the film 'what to expect when you're expecting'. It's not great but funny in parts, and of course there were the obligatory tears (from me, obv!). It kind of got me in the I'm having a baby mood, iykwim. Mad eh? Wishing u all good, stress free, productive but restful weeks!

hey all, hope you had lovely weekends. Mine was smashing; had sat of work then sun we went out for a roast and climbed a big hill in the dales, got some wind on our cheeks :)

Would tell you about my symptoms boo but am buggered today as I had bright red bleeding this morning and passed a clot :( Oh dear. Am quite crampy too and absolutely shattered. I literally want to sit allllll day. I was very frightened this morning but have calmed down; DH took over with DS and has taken the morning off work so I don't have to walk to the childminders and can just rest.

I think I overdid it at the weekend (cleaned bathroom and skanky bath for ages, cleaned house, cooked lots, went food shopping with DS, climbed a hill and boulders (!)) and am hoping beyond hope I just dislodged this clot rather than this heralding something worse. I am also hoping that it is what might have been causing the spotting all this time and so could even herald a new spot-free future, who knows

I have had no amniotic fluid leakage (which I did even with my previous, earlier mc) so just hope is not baby related... am also starving hungry despite my stress so hope that is also a good sign... Rang MWs who told me to ring GP (useless, thanks). I don't know if I will go through that again, seems I am at the GP or hospital for a scan/sptting worry every week. Might just see how today goes first, if I get bad bleeding/cramping and it looks like soemthing might happen I will go to A and E.

one I only have my conclusion to write now :) Will do that today and tomorrow and then post it to my sup and have a whole week off! Must get it done asap as then I can sit and fret suitably and wholeheartedly about my pregnancy with nothing else getting in the way.

sorry everyone seems a bit stressed but hope the lovely weather yesterday lifted some spirits.

sorry for me, me, me, really needed to splurge and your ears are always kind and wise

Wild this spotting has really plagued you, I'm so sorry, and I can well imagine how worrying it was for you this morning. You're right that chances are on your side, chances are you just over did it. But I hope you won't put off seeking a reassurance scan just because you've been there a bit already. If you need it you need it, this is YOUR pregnancy, not the medics'. Good luck with getting your conclusion done.

Glad to hear you're feeling better Boo! And it certainly sounds like an "appropriate" time to be feeling better so I'm hoping you're enjoying it! I was wondering about whether that film would be enjoyable. Would you recommend it at all?

I'm ok, still in the psychological waiting room. I will be released in... let's see... 49 hours and 6 minutes!

Afternoon all :) I've had a very very busy weekend away and am now paying the price. I have developed pain in the muscles below my ribs and almost fainted after standing still a bit too long in a museum I'm off work today thank goodness so I can be lazy and recover. I'm quite proud of myself for stretching half a glass of wine over an entire evening.

wilde Sounds like you overdid it a bit too! You may well have found the culprit for the previous bleeding though, fx it stays away now. Has it stayed away since this morning? Definitely get it checked out if it continues and get some rest today. Your weekend sounds like it was lovely and well done for being so close with your thesis now.

one 49 hours doesn't sound too long at all when you put it like that :) I hope you can stay nice and distracted in the run up.

boo Thanks for the reassurance about the stress out. The weekend away has taken my mind of it thankfully. Yay for the bump though, I'm loving mine (apart from the pain).

aw one the stress will be over soon (well, this particular stress).

I went to epau, baby is just grand :) thanks god, I was in bits. had lots of tests and they have found sommat up with my cervix which will cause bleeding and the scan this time showed the placenta is lying a bit over my cervix too which will def cause bleeding. Will have more bleeding because of this and have to do everything in a chilled away. so glad I found this out before starting my swimming and yoga regime this week.

am shattered now. The drs were so kind and was brill to finally be properly examined rather than 'oh, spotting? pfffft' like usual as it has been getting more and darker red over the weeks and just frightens me! But am ok now we know what it is and the baby is utterly oblivious. AM SICK of trying not to cry (sob uncontrollably) in front of professional people and hope now I really can start to relax.

am sooooo happy to have answers to it all!

sheldon take it easy please :)

I had to fight for my referral too from the same horrid dr who I saw when first pg when he dismissed my worry about cramping saying 'well, you've had enough pgs now to know what is what with cramping' as in, I have had 5 pgs, and only one baby. Bastard. This time he told me that mc'ing at this stage would be agony and I cannot repeat what else it said as it was just too upsetting. THEN he said he won't get me seen till weds to scan for retained products!?! So he basically told me the hideous awfulness of what will befall me at home, and that I would probably need medical assistance then said a scan would be pointless, leave it until you have mc'ed. I loathe the man. I fought him tho and got my referall, was seen straight away and was the only person in the dept all aft. why he couldn't have done it straight away I don't know. I think I will have to complain about him.

rant over!

Great news wilde, glad you have some answers. That doctor sounds like a total arse. Definitely complain!

That's great news re you and your baby Wild and an awful GP, that's terrible, I hope you can complain. AND let him know the outcome of the appt to especially let him know how wrong he was, grrr.

Sheldonella, hope you're feeling better after getting so over tired!

I think I will have to complain one, he has been just bloody awful. Made my situation a WHOLE lot worse, I was in bits after talking to him.

am so very happy now, now I know the baby is completely living in ignorant bliss and any bleeding is placenta issues that, with some TLC, I should be fine with. so happy and actually relaxed for the first time since the spotting saga started at 6 weeks! hurrah for EPU.

That's really great wilde :) Do take it easy.

I'll make you laugh now. I got quite freaked out earlier over this pain I've had at the top of my bump so I called NHS direct. The nurse that called me back asked me lots of serious sounding questions and then diagnosed me with....
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heartburn!

I've had two spoons of Gaviscon and feel instantly better I have been putting up with this for 2 weeks!

aw sheldon!! It is a weird thing when you have never had it before glad you have it fixed :) you take it easy too!

Oh wilde what an awful day but am so pleased to see that you've finally been treated properly by EPU and all is well. As you say, thank God.

sheldon loving your heartburn story but not the actual heartburn it made me smile, thank you

one less than 48 hrs now. Will be keeping everything tightly crossed for you.

Hope all ok with you too boo keeping busy and for developing bumps!

AFM - too busy, over doing it, iron levels not improving, dr threatening to take me in for bed rest...so who would do home then Mr Dr?? had guests all weekend. Today my bump has dropped, significantly. I need the loo more frequently. Am having big braxton hicks, that boob let down feeling happens whenever I get emotional. To all intents and purposes, it would appear my body is getting ready to pop. Which makes me a bit scared at just 31 weeks. DH really concerned, and threatening to take time off over my dead body!.

Oh, and DS3 took the scissors to my knitting last night when I took my eyes off him. A few holes snipped in a sleeve, and many threads in the ball of wool chopped! Wonder how he's going to react when baby arrives...

Again, oh wilde what a relief! Phew!

ice! please chill out for a bit and look after yourself! do you have anyone who can help out for an afternoon so you can lounge about a bit? or could you and DH go away for a weekend and relax? Maybe Dh should take some days off and help out a bit, why is that so crackers?! my Dh has which will be nice for two days... but then am sure he will start to get under my feet and make a Big Mess!

Oh my giddy aunt, I look away for 5 minutes (ok, a day) and all this drama and posts arrive! Wild am so glad to see your good outcome, what a relief! Do you need to do anything or can you just carry on as normal? So glad it's all good. Some people do have bleeds throughout, and each pregnancy is different - so this time it looks like you will be one of those people. at bloody rude dismissive doctor. Honestly, it makes me mad to read it. What does he know about it? I think some GPs are honestly rubbish.

one you are on the count down! Not long to go at all. Hope you can stay nice and calm about it.

sheldon - heartburn! Ha! Well it is bloody irritating, but at least mainlining gaviscon is allowed! and it works pretty fast. I am not looking forward to that stage - although I had it with DD2 but not DD1, so you never know. I've had a low stabbing pain today when I was rushing out at lunch. I think it's ligament pain. I hope so!

Ice please do take it easy if you can. I know it's hard to imagine anyone at home coping without you doing everything you're doing now, but if you have to go into hosp (to have baby early, or to bedrest) it won't be ideal either. Can you organise the kids (can't recall how old your boys are) to have different jobs (like getting clothes ready for morning, pajamas out, dishes cleared, etc) so that you are not rushing around? Can you make sure you have a rest for an hour each morning and an hour each afternoon? Then go to bed (or bath) as soon as kids in bed/ DH home? Even if it's sitting with the DCs reading a book or something, but somewhere you can put your feet up?

BOOOO for knitting ruined - it's so tricky getting the little uns to understand the significance of their actions. My DD used the scissors to snip the ends of my lovely windsor and newton paint brushes. Grrr. Scissors are just too tempting.

BTW can confirm that the TW's have definitely gone. Phew! Am totally relieved although it's a bit like when hiccups have gone - you can't quite believe it and it's a subtle change rather than a physical relief. But, hurrah!

hey boo! such a relief, thanks! Am ok tho if I do too much I could have a serious bleed and it might not stop as there are so many blood vessels in the placenta... so I have to rest! If I start spotting it is a warning sign so I have to chill out then. am not complaining about that :)

am not allowed to exercise either and have to walk at a normal pace, not my normal march Is so good to know as I was starting yoga tonight and swimming on Thurs and I really fancy a good swim! I love swimming, go to triathlon swimming clubs etc when am not ttc or pg so do like to get a pace on. Soooo happy I know not to. Dh is helping out loads is fab.

so glad you are free of the TWs! yay!

oh god yes ice I totally forgot to mention about the knitting. aw.

Today is the EDD for my mc bubs. Am more emotional about it than I thought I would be; I think the drama of thinking I was going to lose this one yesterday brought it all home to me again. Am so lucky; am so happy to be pg with this darling baby. Am still a bit hmm tho.

And today the dog has kennel cough! Already been to the vet by 9am.

Sat down last night to salvage the knitting - in the end it was just one sleeve that had a few extra holes in it, so I took it back to the biggest hole and started again! He'd also managed to snip his way through the entire ball of wool so had to re-wind that into usable lengths! Doesn't look too bad now, and have nearly finished it.

By the time DH came home i was having regular(ish) braxton hicks - even he could tell, and a pink discharge and periody pain. Going to Dr later on I think for whooping cough jab, but everything else seems to have settled down over night. Playgroup this morning.

Great news about being TW-free boo. The boys are in a pretty good routine, and I am very very lucky in that I have lots of help to call on. My target is to get DS3 (who is 3 in march) to get himself dressed/undressed by the time baby is born! i think it is just the fact that I am getting large with a large baby, again, and that 3rd trimester exhaustion is beginning to set in. Shame it coincides with the run up to Xmas and all the plays, carol concerts etc.

wilde my mc dd was Saturday. Felt very odd and I was quite sad. DH didn't understand as he has written it off as something that obviously wasn't right and is very matter of fact about it, but I can't quite do that. I was sad for the potential baby that didn't survive?

After posting last night, I watched Inside Out (?) that local news programme on BBC1? And it was all about young kids with non-curable cancers being taken abroad for radical treatments by their parents - and i got all emotional and ended up having horrid dreams about my boys being so poorly.

Today I am going to get a grip! Have a good one ladies!

oh ice I couldn't watch that programme :( I just can't bear it!

yes, I feel sad about the bubs too, probably because we really loved them. Dh would be the same as yours; almost straight away he wrote it off as 'not meant to be'. But if you loved them then you feel sad, end of. is ok.

ice I do think you should mention the BH and pinky discharge to MWs or GP as it could be the start of something, or not, and they might have advice for you other than rest up (tho am sure that will be the crux of it) or say it is because it is your fourth bubs. Might be nice to have people watching out for you if something does kick off early? I always end up going to see peeps because i think if I don't and something happened, the MWs etc would think I was crackers and wonder why I didn't just let someone know something was amiss. Is what they are there for.

good luck getting DS3 to dress himself :) Does he take direction well?! My DS does but if he doesn't want to do something then he won't. All of a sudden last week everything was 'I want to do it by MYSELF' and I felt rather redundant! Time for a new baby methinks

hehe DS got into bed with me yesterday morn and said that he is growing a 'bee' (boob) for the new baby for it to drink milk but the baby can't have too much or it will get hiccups. And he got his toy chickie and put it on my tum to say hello to the baby. aw!

Afternoon all. ice Oh poor you, I really really hope you can find a way to take the pressure off and rest Have you been to the docs? I hope all is well. Glad you managed to salvage the knitting too.

Sorry for yet another rant. The heartburny pain did go away but I still have this sore, bruised feeling at the top of my bump so I thought I would call the MFAU to speak to a midwife about it. I tried to call them six times this morning but no one would pick up! It is supposed to be an emergency number, this is so frustrating. In the end I called my GP surgery and they put me on to a doctor who was really angry with the hospital. He wants to see me this afternoon to check out the pain so I'm going later. Hopefully it is nothing but it is hard to ignore these things isn't it.

Thinking of your on your due date wilde. It is an odd feeling isn't it. It is sad, but I'm glad mine has passed now as it feels like more of an end to a sad chapter. Have some of these too . Same for you ice for Saturday.
wilde your DS sounds so adorable :)
one Is it less than 24 hours now? Thinking of you all the way.
boo Yay, glad the TWs are finally gone, that must be a relief. I hope they never come back!

thinking of you sheldon, glad you have a proactive dr :) good luck

ice I just noticed at the end of your post you said you were going to 'get a grip'. I think you have too much of a grip on things and maybe need to sort of relax a little bit?! Are you ok? You seem to be going through a lot at the moment but lumping it all together as 'life'. A cuppa tea and a book can be life too and take the strain off for a bit. to you too.

thinking of you for tomorrow one for you!

and you boo and chuckle all round !!!

I'm back. The doctor was great and examined me thoroughly. He said it is gastritis and nothing to do with the baby. I got to hear her heartbeat again which was lovely :) I'm now the proud owner of a comedy sized bottle of prescription gaviscon.

gastritus?! wassat, it sounds harsh but hopefully isn't if it is remedied with gaviscon? soooo glad you ok and yay for hearing the HB. where are you in your pg now sheldon?

Am 15 weeks today, am letting my bump out now as 15 sounds proper pg and bumpworthy to my ears

I'm 24 weeks now :) I think it just means my stomach is irritated by being crushed up by the baby. It is causing the heartburn apparently.
15 weeks is definitely proper pg, show off the bump with pride! :)

24! viability, woot! congrats :)

Ice wow 31 weeks! I can't believe how much you're doing. Do you think you're pushing yourself too hard?

You're all doing well those with the scissors stories! Hands up if you gave yourself your own haircut at the tender age of 3!!!

Boo wonderful that those awful TWs have gone. I understand it would be hard to imagine they are really gone. Is there a test or anything you all can take?

Wild that sounds like you're getting very clear instructions from your body, I so hope it's more manageable now. (and your ds3 sounds adorable!) 15 weeks, woohoo!

to Ice and Wild for your mc dd dates. Mine was a weird time, I mostly kept it quietly to myself but lovely OH is always hovering around keeping an eye out for any tearfulness!

Sheldonella grrr , these people! Glad your GP got angry on your behalf. Glad it all turned out well enough, enjoying imagining just how big this bottle is! 24 weeks, woohoo to you too!

What a busy thread this has been, hope I haven't forgotten anything! I'm just home from work and am off to have a lovely bath. I'm ok re tomorrow. 22.5 hours to go. Thankfully. As long as this wait has been I can't believe that I never went for an earlier scan. It's a bit of a paradox for me. Nothing like confusing your very own self!