graduates of the wine-and-shagging-after-mc thread come hither!

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Seeing as practically all of us have now got pg, here is a new home for all of us to come to carry on chatting after getting the BFP after our mcs. Today we are pregnant! :)

yay boo that's marvellous news! am sad you aren't my EDD buddy any more though :( does it feel weird all of a sudden being 'more' pregnant? does it work with your dates?! Am sure they will put me even further behind, have already out myself behind in line with previous scans (even tho is rubbish as would have had a wonderful BFP at 8dpo) in anticipation as I find it so disappointing!

so happy for you :) :) :)

Afternoon all, how are we today? I've done some very exciting shopping - all the reusable nappies I'll ever need, a rocking stand for my moses basket, some bedding, a changing mat and a cute little fleece jacket with ears on it :) I will stop now though! Definitely not buying the cot, sling or pram for a while yet.
I got a bit nervous yesterday as I didn't feel DD move much all day. Fortunately she started doing some great acrobatics when I went to bed and then again this morning. As I type this she has just booted me in the middle of my stomach.
So, what have we all got planned for the weekend?

Wow Sheldonella, well done, how exciting. I like how you drew a line there as well . Glad your DD has given you a reassuring kick!

I'm looking forward to a free weekend except for the new Bond film Sunday evening. I might clean the house for the first time in many weeks! Boring I know. I hope others are up to more exciting hijinks!

ah, the weekend... I am itching to go out and have some fun but with DS and being pg I am going to have to settle for (another) quiet night in! cinema would be nice, i would like to see that film too one Instead I shall be working and have a three year old's party to take DS to on Sunday. Oh the glamour! the thrills!

yay for kicking and shopping sheldon :)

with working so much my days are whizzing by. cannot believe am almost 12 weeks, or that I have a scan on thurs! nuts.

am trying to wangle some mmore tom ka gai soup out of DH. I could just live off the stuff atm but sadly you can only get it from restaurants! lordy this baby is posh

I start pg yoga a week tuesday (all being well). can't wait, but will be weird being with lots of pg women as I don't feel completely pg yet and also i just hope I have some energy! am so up and down atm :)

Wild, I hadn't clocked that your scan is Thursday! There are so many milestones between us all, looking forward to it! I remember your description of your previous scan, really moving.

Ooh pg yoga, forgot about that, must look into it!

Guys, remember Wifey? She's posted on the conception page, she's got a bfp!!!!!!

Which conception page? That is great news!

one when is your scan? The weeks really are flying by.

wilde that soup sounds rather lovely. Did you manage to get some tonight? Yay for posh baby :) mine seems to want nothing but cheese.

DH and I are going to the village firework display tomorrow night. Am I being daft worrying about the loudness and the effects on the baby?

hello! Yes, wild and sheldon it is weird about being moved along so much. That has never happened to me before, as I've always been bang on, so I don't know what to pin it on. I think (though I can't quite remember, typically the one month I was supposedly chilling out and not monitoring everything) I had a bit of spotting before my LMP date, so maybe my period was a bit earlier and therefore ovulation earlier. I did take the odd temp but not continuously so maybe I missed the surge! But in some ways it's nice thinking there is less time to go... but on the other I worry it's wrong and then I will not be able to go to the full 2 weeks over due if I need to. (Well I can, but it will be at my own risk). Anyway, not going to worry about that yet!!!!

I know, wild we have been separated in terms of due dates!! Although if you are usually early (I think you said) and I've been on due date for DD1 and 10 days late for DD2, so more likely you will be before me anyway?!

sheldon I remember going to see a live beatboxer when I was pregnant with DD1 and thinking it was way too loud. I have also been to gigs and stuff like that with DD2. I was in the cinema last night - watching Skyfall and some of the ads were deafening! I honestly think the baby is so protected inside you that it's simply not going to hear things like you do, but I've no idea if that is medically sound. Certainly neither of mine have had problems with hearing, if that's anything to go by. I think when you are preg, however, that you are generally more sensitive so all these things seem even louder. My DH was stamping his foot earlier because he had cramp and it was making me shudder with the noise...?! Might be a good idea not to stand too close to fireworks going off though - just because you don't want to get a shock! I've just remembered we had a firework display (loosely speaking) at my parents just after DD1 was born, she was about 1 month old. She hated it but her ears weren't damaged!

one was wifey on our thread? I know the name but I can't remember why. BFPs are good news though!!

I told my work today. Everyone was nice about it which was good. It is a relief to be able to breathe out!! I am looking rather tubby particularly in the evenings, but I don't think it's proper bump yet!

Got a very early start for work tomorrow (booooo) so better go to bed or I'll be a wreck. Hope everyone has lovely weekends.

boo the MW said to me that all babies are different, because I fretted at her about being even earlier with this one which might give me a 36 weeker. I don't think I will go over my EDD tho tbh :) And you told work! WOW! What a milestone!

got my flu jab this morning! and I had my thai soup last night tho think we will have to stop indulging me for a while. is an expensive craving!

one is wifey one of ours? Did she have a mc around the same time? I think I remember but am a bit thick atm. Pleasing anyways as I def recognise her name :)

I was asleep by 9.30 last night. crackers!

sheldon go with your instincts, all babies are different! my DS was very sensitive to loud noises when I was pg with him and he still is now! I think that is unusual for him to send such strong signals of dislike though (would go very still) and think usually they would be just fine. is very muffled in there? DS did really like a tim minchin gig i took him to when I was about 34 weeks though :) good lad :)

I can't remember who would recall Wifey but I remember some of us mentioning her on our old thread. She didn't post on our old thread, or maybe she did but only for a short space of time. She mainly posted on her own thread. It was just such a heartache read so I was excited to see she now has a bfp. (The thread is called "Should I be Worried" Sheldonella, she's had a tiny bit of spotting).

I don't have a scan date yet Sheldonella. I'll be 10 weeks Monday so it's certainly coming. The only symptom I've had for the last several days is mild boob ache and a bit of constipation. Worringly, I feel pretty good. I even had the energy to clean house this morning properly for the first time in 5 or 6 weeks (gawd, the dust!!!). I hope there's something/someone in there to scan!

I don't know a thing about loud noises and pregnancy. Interesting to read what you've experienced though Boo and Wild. I know this is totally different but I once had a friend who in the final days of her pg was fed up with her lo not making a move so she came out clubbing with us so the loud music and reverberations would motivate him out! It was wonderful dancing with this massively pg woman just lolling from side to side!

That's a perfect description Boo, I want to be able to breath out too! Boooo that you have to work today, hope you have a nice evening.

Wild that soup! Glad you finally got some. I'm going to have to try some myself. There's a really good thai kitchen in a pub near me and if I hadn't been so tired in the evenings lately I would have popped over there ages ago to find out if they do takeaway! OOOOOh! You saw Tim Minchin!!!!! We LOOOOVE him! The Infinite Monkey Cage once did a broadcast from our town and he was a guest on that, it's the only time we've seen him live.

Right, only the bathroom and living room left. I normally keep a clean house but these last several weeks have been strange. I'd see some mess on the floor or whatever and just kind of look at it with mild curiosity. Spilled drops of tea on the tiles? Hmmm, or , I wonder how that will look when it dries? . My OH revelled in the freedom of it all!

oooh you love tim minchin too one! He is the only person that I would make an effort to go and see whenever he is around (which isn't much these days, sad face). his 'white wine in the sun' song always makes me blub now I am pg. I can't wait until DS is old enough to go and see mathilda :) And WHAT is the infinite monkey cage?! what a fabulous name!

I don't know how you guys go to work being all pg. What a nightmare! Some days (like today) unless I am wearing my hoody or baggy tops I really am showing looking fat. eek!

well done on your energy one! It is quite normal as far I can see from the AN thread, me and Boo to have energy at 10 weeks! then around 12 it might dip again, I have had quite a rough ride this week. I think it is the placenta trying to kick in, so sometimes you feel great and other times terrible as you have a double whammy of hormones from the placenta and you. :)

DH is super keen to take DS (he's nearly 3 so about ready) to a fireworks display tonight (it will be too loud for him, mark my words). Can I just say I DO NOT want to go in a million years! I do not want to stand up at all today! am sooooo tired and lethargic! Let alone in the cold and wet?! oh 'eck. Hopefully DS's face will make it all worthwhile and a hot dog and some chips

my friend's baby loved noise one! and he still does! is a right little disco dancer.

must work. want to nap.

Oh I love Tim Minchin. We love the ginger song as DH is ginger :) Love infinite monkey cage. wilde it is a radio show.

one 10 weeks and more energy is what happened to me too. I think the indigestion might have kicked in some time after that too but I hope it doesn't for you.

Oh I looked up the thai soup - I MUST have some! I think I have the ingredients in to make it so might have a go this weekend.

wilde (and anyone else) have you ever come across a Wilkinet sling? I've seen a bargain on one and thought it looked interesting - somewhere between a wrap and a harnessy type one. I'm trying to find one that can be used by both DH & I.

Thanks for the thoughts on noise boo. I think I will go unless it is too cold.

Menu for the day - beef stew and homemade bread.

don't know about that one sheldon! am not up on my carriers but am SURE there is someone on MN who is :)

Am having a minor quandary. If we don't have to move house but would just like to to be near friends and family, would you do it at around 30 weeks pg or wait until you had the baby? Considering too that staying put would mean DS is in nursery 15 hours a week (if we move in March he won't get a place until sept)... hmmm and

yay for tim minchin :) I like his song about re-using plastic bags; at the gig he did this and whenever he went into the chorus he had huge energy gobbling fans going and flashy lights so funny. oh i want to go to a gig!

written a gazillion words of my thesis. I always know it is time to stop when I forget how to save my document :)

Hi girls. I love Tim Minchin too - took DD1 to see Matilda last year and she loved it. She kept wanting to see the chokey (she likes to be scared!). In fact, [boast emoticon] I've met Tim through work, and his Infinite Monkey Cage co stars Brian Cox and Robin Ince. It's a great prog.

wild I can see your dilemma re moving. Are you selling up and buying or going to be renting (I ask as that might dictate, timewise, what you do). If renting, then I guess you have the choice! I moved when pregnant before and found it frustrating not to be able to unpack properly (too tired, couldn't lift heavy stuff etc). But it's quite nice to start babys life off in the new place. I think second time around newborns seem a doddle (in my experience, but obv depends on your baby and first time experience!) so I would say moving with a new born not too much hassle specially if you have minimal equipment like cot and buggy (I think you said you are planning to co-sleep and sling it). I had my DD1 at home from May to end August as she was starting at a new pre school which had school holidays. It was quite full on but on the other hand DD1 got to see a lot of me and baby which I think was nice for her, given that prior to that she had been Number 1 in my priorities so in that way I was glad she was there. DD2 was quite an easy baby though. Anyway, Not sure if that helps you at all!

It's so weird to me that you crave Thai, wild as when I was pg with DD1 we went on holiday to Thailand - pre booked, supposed to be baby making holiday but we jumped the gun. Anyway, I could not touch Thai food when there, it made me feel so sick, the smell of it was everywhere. I could only eat eggy bread and fruit (and a stash of rich tea biccys I'd brought). What a waste! Anyway, it means I still don't ever fancy Thai in pregnancy. Quite fancy curries this time, though. Beef stew and home made bread sounds nice sheldon!

one am super envious of your energy. I really need to do some jobs on the house. I actually have a cleaner for a couple of hours a week - otherwise we would have been living in a pit the last few weeks - so at least the basics are done, but there is a load of other stuff to do. I usually like living in a very clean organised environment so it is slightly doing my head in that I am so useless right now. But I am trying to give in to it.

How is everyone else feeling? I seem to have energetic moments and then am back to completely knackered again. It's definitely worse this time than before. I don't know if it's because I am older, or because I started off being more tired with having the 2 DDs already, or if it's just this pregnancy. I have still got the dreg ends of my cold, too. I don't have indigestion yet (sympathies to those who do) but I do seem to be burping a lot more than usual!!

We milked out on actually going to fireworks but watched them from our loft instead. Even then I had to sit down before the end, pathetic!

Wild That song "white wine in the sun" was out first introduction to him. We were in bed listening to the last Dr Who's desert island discs and he played that. We were both moved by it so we googled it to listen in full and both wept over it. It's now a christmas favourite! Sheldonella I love the ginger song too! Boo how exciting, you met him! Is he nice?

Sheldonella how'd the soup turn out?

Hmmm, moving at 30 weeks. I have no experience of this Wild, obviously. Would it be nicer that you were there for the birth and to have friends and family around for that? But you might really want that 15 hours of nursery when you might be struggling more? On the other hand, what Boo said made sense. Would it be harder to move with a new born? (am I just asking the same questions you asked in an annoyingly repetitive way! Sorry.)

I'm envious of your cleaner Boo. I'm so untrusting. When I finally managed to hire a company, the person they assigned arrived late one week (only once? who knows, I was unexpectedly home with a cold), she took a smoke break, with the smell of smoke coming into the house, and that was it. I also think she didn't do as good a job as I could.

I would mind less losing energy at 10 weeks since you've all done well with that, but I was only 9, I'll be 10 on Monday!

one I started to feel better during week nine. lasted until week 11 (up and down) then had a bit more of an up and down week. tiredness is fine and dandy today but am very emotional! 12 weeks today (well, according to scans that put me back a bit) which is pleasing. Dh is chuffed to bits.

I was alone at a toddler party this aft with DS (my first!) as my friend said she couldn't come at the last minute and I was all alone and kept nipping to the loo for chill-time (I am really chatty and friendly when I know people but terribly shy and anxious before then, tho no-one believes me when I say that as I come accross super confident apparently) ANYWAY my friend did turn up after I had just wondered what the feck i was going to do for an hour and a half all on my own (everyone else had a friend/knew each other) and I saw her and burst into tears on her! Hehe! Hormones are rampaging as I had also burst into tears on DH not long before going to said party because he stressed me out by not bringing home the cream and linguine I asked for (!).

so that has been my day. And now I am sat to do my PhD work until 8/9pm

we have decided to stay here until we find a smashing house to rent in cornwall then will move straight away as they are few and far between. Am so keen to keep some kind of continuity for DS as having a baby will really affect us all, but Dh reminds me that we are still together and can be aware of his moods and pander to him for a while if moving messes with his head (:() and I will just keep him home with me (us!) abd kjeep him close if he is narky. Moving will always be a wrench for him tbh, whenever we do it. Am dreading it! thanks for your thoughts ladies. Is such a conundrum and very hard to think about moving house when hormonal and nesty and fatigued! :)

sheldon did you make the soup?! I wish I was glamorous enough to have those ingredients just in my cupboard I have bisto cubes and bay leaves, very unexciting. I have got some stewing steak in and some tiger bread though for stew tomorrow! You inspired me! :)

boo you met the Minch?! OOOOH! Was he nice? I quite fancy him in that way one fancies clever men. Am the same on the energy thing, some days I am fine, others like yesterday I fret about having to stand up for an hour! Am fine today, quite hyper really.

we did leave the fireworks straight away btw. the bonfire and chips were lovely tho and it was nice to get out and come home

OMG that was long! sooooooorrrrryyyyyyyyyyyyy!

Thanks Wild I will hang up my Hat Of Doom And Gloom and appreciate feeling good. I'm approaching the time of my mc in my last pg. It's anxiety provoking. I just wish I felt like shit, you know? Probably psychosomatic but I did managed to put my back out on the way into work this mornng. I went in and did 3 hours and am now home in bed so will be cruising MN and Google for entertainment!

Congratulations on your 12th week! Do you have another scan coming up now?

I recieved my appt in the post today, November 21st, aaaagggggeeeeesssss away. And will be 12+2 so curious to see if they alter the dates.

I sympathise with you re the party. I'm the same socially. I think I've spoken about it too much though as recently a friend had a birthday celebration and didn't invite me because she thought I wouldn't enjoy it. I thanked her for her consideration and then stewed in feelings of rejection and self pity for days! Anyway, that's a sweet reaction to your friend showing up though, hope she appreciated your style of welcome!

Now, a new dish... cream and linguine, were you making an alfredo sauce?

Glad you've got a decision re the move that you're happy with. Fx for your ds and the move.

Happy Monday everyone!

arf one I felt like utter shit and still miscarried my last pg. the placenta makes the hormones not the baby so if you have a functioning one of those you will get symptoms, whatever is going on :( BUT it also means if you don't have loads of symptoms is not an automatically bad sign at ALL!

hope your back is ok? YAY for scan date!

I have my 12 week scan on thurs... was looking forward to it but had a teeny bit of pink spotting today so am nervous again. Seems to be around every two weeks for some reason.

Also had a surprise appt in the post just now for an antenatal appt next week at the hospital. i wonder if I am on consultant led care (which I am not in my notes) cause I can't see why else I would have this, at 13 weeks? anyone know? I can't go anyway, I have to work - all my AN appts keep being on thursdays!

one I sympathise, that is a shame. I told my friends about my phone phobia about 6 years ago and not one of them has called since! this makes me sad; i wish they would call anyway, sometimes I pick it up! texting and emailing is best for me tho :)

mushroom and garlic creamy sauce thing it will be. nom! I don't know what alfredo means!

I cried at x factor last night. crikey I was hormonal!

I'm sorry you've had this troubling spotting. Hope this one goes away quickly. Has it just made an appearance today? Fx for Thursday. I don't know you would be offered another appt though, maybe ring your mw? I'm expecting one to come through. I will need cervix stitches to keep my woohoo closed for the pregnancy. Mmm, so, so happy about that.

I missed Ryland's sing off, I'm not a fan of either but am annoyed that he own over Kye! I might try to google his performance now!

Alfredo sauce is made with parmesan, cream, some green herb, garlic, it's mild, mmmmm.

Oh, that was Ryland's best performance, hm, wonder what's going to happen!

i am really so embarrassed it made me cry. It was certainly hormones tho I do think rylan is super sweet. Kye, tbh, was a bit try hard for me controversial!!!!

spotting just today. only a teeny bit, just wish it would go away. Is ok. am quite grumpy today, I think the pressure of entertaing DS all day with the knowledge that I should be working (and he is being a bit of a wind up merchant today) is making me short tempered.

DS has put his knee through the stair gate upstairs to lure me up when he should be napping. Grrrrrrrr!

a stitch?! oh bums :( a couple of ladies had them on the other ttc after mc, if you need advices i am sure they will help :)

Did ring about my strange and random appt but no one answered. will ring again later.

am going to cancel DS's nursery place tomorrow I think. will confirm with DH that is what we should do first, is a big deal to cancel... and it means we are cutting our ties with up here! eek!

Afternoon all. I managed a lie yesterday for the first time in months! I feel refreshed! Yay! Had a great weekend really, more junk thrown out, baby's room looking lovely now. I did brave the firework display in the end and it was lovely. The noise didn't cause any movement at all, although I got lots later that night. I also had half a glass of red wine which was delicious. I didn't make the soup in the end - just the stew. Definitely on my to do list though.

Another job ticked off - I've sorted out maternity leave. I should finish at the very beginning of february which seems scarily close now. I was told about the difficulties of finding childcare by some colleages today too so I have emailed a nursery about places for 2014. This seems crazy but had to be done.

wilde Have you made your mind up about the move then? Do you have lots of stuff to move? All sounds very exciting. I think I would prefer to move before new baby arrives but would probably worry about coping with all the packing. Appointments - I got one of those mystery appointments too and no one at the hospital could tell me why until I actually went to it. It turned out to be because of a single high blood pressure reading and I think the GP had been a bit overcautious when she faxed my details to the hospital. I was discharged from consultant care straight away but they want me to keep being checked every two weeks with the midwife. The midwife has since said she thinks that's silly. Sorry to hear about the spotting again.

one Try not to read too much into symptoms. With my mc pregnancy I had horrifically sore boobs for weeks. They would keep me awake. This time I had slightly sore boobs for a week or two and they have felt almost completely normal ever since, just the occasional twinge. I'm glad you have your scan appointment - it will be here before you know it. When do you have to have the stitch?

That was supposed to say lie in, not lie. I didn't start yesterday by fibbing to anyone :)

oh I LOVE that you feel so refreshed after your first lie in months Am delighted for you! i feel terrible without a good fib too :) :) glad you had a lovely weekend!

YES I think we have made our mind up about the move! we are soooo worried about work, about how it will affect DS, about me being all stressed and heavily pg in a new place (not really new but i don't have a life of my own there) with DS not in nursery... and will we even like going back to DHs home town?! It might be rubbish! so we umm and ahh but I think, having nearly decided to just stay, we have now decided to go whenever we can from Jan. we will def move next year so might as well just get it over with while it is easier. DH will have to live down there for a bit and grab us a house, then DS and I will follow suit. DS will hang with us until the new school year in sept which should hopefully alleviate abandonment issues. poor DS.

sheldon thanks for the heads up about your strange appt. I am sure my last consultant led care was because of one random high BP reading because the care carried on long after they ahd ruled out any threat from lupus. I would love to go just for the pg attention but just can't spend the day getting there and back, and DH won't have the time off work either.

my child sleeps! am delighted and should work but actually am too sleepy full of cake so will work tonight instead. DS is such a scamp, he had his leg in the stairgate and was very mischievous looking and then boinged the end of my nose when I got up to him to help him! the cheek! why isn't he more afraid of me and my fearsome parental wrath?!?! oooooh the insubordination.