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BROOKING NO ARGUMENT for pain-free sneeze births and an abundance of empty birthing pools - pt 12!

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FluffyJawsOfDoom · 09/07/2012 11:10

I think this is the first time I've ever started a brooking thread! Shock

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itsMYNutella · 17/07/2012 08:27

far I'm the same; I start feel really ropey if I'm too tired. I haven't had any morning sickness but after a bad nights sleep I feel nauseous.

tock I'm due on the 28th Dec. DP isn't thrilled because he thinks it's a bad time of year for a birthday (his is 3rd January ) but he's getting over it slowly :o I've reassured him that this is our baby so will probably be late Wink

itsMYNutella · 17/07/2012 08:31

And thanks tock for supporting my laziness :o

ScrambledSmegs · 17/07/2012 08:37

hello all. far welcome back! Glad you had a lovely holiday. Are you now our 'most updiffed'? Can't remember everyone's due dates, sorry if I've forgotten someone.

Well, i have a virus Sad. Doctor next to no help. Just dropped DD off at nursery and going home to sleep more. Hopefully rest, aloe Vera juice, Floradix and sunshine (yay!) will help get me healthy again.

FluffyJawsOfDoom · 17/07/2012 09:20

Aww hope you feel better soon smegs, you seem to be getting more than your fair share of bugs!

little my nausea went about 14 weeks, but I've never lost the fatigue (sorry) - what was probably hormonal fatigue was replaced by anaemia at about 18 weeks and now that's sorted I'm sleeping soooo badly because of my pelvis pain. I figure it's just training for when the baby arrives and I'm soooo thankful I don't have another child to look after

Welcome back far! :)

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farfallarocks · 17/07/2012 09:25

I think fluff is most updiffed and due in October. I am 3rd November, eek!

smegs you poor thing, rest up!

Does anyone have a recommendation for a good bump support pillow? My bump is starting to feel heavy when I lie on my side, there seem to be loads in the market and not sure which one to go for!

Stacks · 17/07/2012 10:36

Morning all.
Welcome back Far, glad to hear you had a nice holiday, I'm thinking about doing something this year before baby, but am finding it hard to get around to doing it.
Little I actually started feeling better at about 10 weeks, but I also never had any morning sickness, just felt nauseous all day every day. That started very early at about 3.5 weeks though! The tiredness got better at closer to 12 weeks, it wasn't something I really noticed happening, just one night I wasn't falling asleep at 7pm on the sofa, then it gradually got better each day. I still felt tired, but didn't have to sleep.
Smegs poor you! You really do seem to be getting the worst of things so far. Your morning sickness was awful too wasn't it? I hope you get better soon and sail through the rest of your pregnancy without another sniff or twinge.
Fluff are you seeing anyone about your hip pain? I hope so, I'm guessing the earlier they start treating it the better the management will be.
Tock oooh, flutterings. So exciting! I'm feeling lots of movement now, but I'm also still kind of doubting it's baby. I thought I felt an obvious turning sort of movement last night, just happenned to have my hand on my tummy and it felt like lumps twisting under the skin. No idea what it would have been, but it didn't feel like wind or normal tummy movements.
Nutella do you also feel you've missed the worst of all the symptoms? I feel a bit bad posting on the Dec thread as I have nothing I really need to complain about. DH and I also didn't want a Christmas baby, but after 18 months of trying we are very happy. We'll make sure it always has a special birthday, and no joint presents to make it feel short-changed. It feels a bit weird calling a baby an 'it', but we'll find out the sex at our scan next week and I can start referring to it as more of a person :)

Well, I had a really broken night of sleep last night, no idea why. I woke up every hour from 3:30 to 7:30. Doesn't seem to have been anything which woke me up each time, I just turned over, looked at the clock and went back to sleep. Not too tired yet, but I can already feel I'm going to struggle to get through the working day.

FluffyJawsOfDoom · 17/07/2012 13:35

Cakes is next, she's due the day before me!

I don't use a pillow for bump support far but I'd think you'd need quite a flat one? Mine's super puffy and too big to go under my bump.

Stacks the MW has promised to refer me if her SPD/PGP pamphlet doesn't help. The pamphlet basically tells me to keep my legs together at all times and gives me a list of examples (including when having sex, which I was a bit Hmm over). So hopefully I'll be referred when I go back in a fortnight because it hasn't miraculously sorted things for me, funnily enough.

It turns out my sister had terrible PGP/SPD with her DC3, too, which I never knew - to the extent that she was induced 4 days early and it took 6 months for her to feel normal again, but twelve years later she still can't do impact sports like running without setting it off :(

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JenFraggle · 17/07/2012 13:43

Fluff your DSis wasn't a brooker, you are so won't be as bad.

ScrambledSmegs · 17/07/2012 14:05

Fluff I know someone who had bad SPD and swore by acupuncture. She went in barely able to walk, and to hear her tell the story she was practically skipping on the way out HmmGrin. The acupuncturist was attached to the ante-natal unit at her hospital in some capacity, so it was either free or very cheap, I can't remember which. Worth asking your midwife?

I'm feeling a bit better now, you've clearly all been sending me healthy vibes. Thank you!

FluffyJawsOfDoom · 17/07/2012 14:32

Good point well made jen :o

Glad you're on the mend smegs. I don't think my MW will refer me for acupuncture - she's adamant that physio won't help with the pain Hmm but it's something to bear in mind privately if it gets too much, thanks! :)

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ScrambledSmegs · 17/07/2012 14:41

Your midwife sounds a bit barmy fluff, physiotherapy is one of the accepted treatments for PGP. If she won't help I'd go to your GP and lay it on thickly about how much pain you're in, and any mobility issues you have.

I'm off to see the homebirth midwives tomorrow Smile. DH has agreed! We can have a birth pool in our kitchen apparently, one of those inflatable ones. Very, very relieved. He now seems more positive about it than me, bless him Grin

FluffyJawsOfDoom · 17/07/2012 14:51

That's what I thought! I was a bit Hmm but I wasn't going to argue with her.

Cool!! I'd love a home birth but the walls aren't thick enough :o loving the sound of the dedicated pool.

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whimsicalname · 17/07/2012 14:55

Great news on the HB smegs. I've had all mine at home, and heartily recommend it. However what with american hospitals having ensuite rooms and room service, I think I'll accept hospitalisation without a fight this time.

I had rotten spd fluff and had some physio (privately) which helped a bit, but then got referred by my private physio to an nhs aqua group which was brilliant. I also found swimming to be very beneficial, but you have to do front crawl rather than breast stroke. As a very positive side effect, I am now shit hot at crawl!

I always rather thought the 'keep your knees together' advice was a bit silly. I could barely walk to the end of the road by the time I was due, but was fine within days. I had DS3 on Tuesday, and then on Friday walked the mile to nursery to show off the baby although then I had to go back to bed for the rest of the weekend because my piles were so bad.

I never had a bump support pillow far, rather made do with a couple of extra pillows, one between my legs and one under my bump. And then after i had the baby, sat on top of them with a slight gap between them for the sore bits.

FluffyJawsOfDoom · 17/07/2012 15:34

Thing is, parting my legs really doesn't hurt at all. I'm sitting cross legged as I write this and it's more comfortable. It's the sacroilliac (sp) joint at the back that's really painful and goes "crunch" when I roll over in the night and the bit between my legs when I stand on one leg or carry heavy stuff. And only my left side is causing me bother Hmm

Will you have to fork out for a birth whims or can you get insurance to cover it?

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whimsicalname · 17/07/2012 16:01

If I have to pay fluff it's going to be me and Ina May Gaskin in a log cabin somewhere!

No, I believe we're covered. MrWhim is allegedly checking, however.

cakes82 · 17/07/2012 16:13

I like the most updiffed medal :o although I don't think I actually deserve it there are one or two due in september but don't think they have been seen for a while Munx maybe?

I get the hip pain more from lieing in bed than anything else, have found it can be better fractionally if I lie on one side when I go to bed then when I get up for bathroom I come back and lie on other side. Trouble is next time I wake up I find i'm back on first side or partway between the two lol. I have had pain walking like a shooting pain but its not a frequent occurance. I bought a bolster pillow to try be comfy but because of the whole turning over thing have not actually used it. Going to use it for feeding instead I think.

Fluff hope your mw is a bit more helpful next time! mine said if I had more probs she'd refer me to physio. We are brookers so it won't get too bad at all!!

cakes82 · 17/07/2012 16:15

Fluff re read your post, why would you need to stand on one leg anyway? Heavy stuff to carry? thats what men are for lol Wink

FluffyJawsOfDoom · 17/07/2012 16:18

Putting my socks on, cakes :o

I find my massive preggo pillow is really useful for making sure I don't lie on my back (coz there's not room!)

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cakes82 · 17/07/2012 16:25

Dunno how I put my socks on then cause I don't feel like I stand on one leg to do it I'd prob fall over if I did lol :o

On the principle i've had less complaints about my snoring like noises (long story which now turns out to involve a deviated septum) i'd guess somehow I no longer sleep on my back not sure how that works Confused

Anybody else feeling really warm in bed at night? My room themometer says it is an ideal 18 but it feels too warm to me.

itsMYNutella · 17/07/2012 16:55

Stacks yes I know what you mean. Feel like I'm cheating somehow but also relieved not to feel too bad! I have a few questions but find the thread moves way to fast for people to really keep up and answer questions fully.... I think the last thread filled in two weeks?!
I'm also having very broken nights but sometimes I'm sure it's because I've had a very lazy day :)

Gah sore bits, whims!!! Haven't talked much about the whole topic of birth with DP. He isn't doing/reading/interested in much baby stuff. But I want us to have a plan so that if I need him (as translator - my German is good but I can imagine needing some help while under er... stress) to speak for me he will know what my wishes are.

TheLittleFriend · 17/07/2012 19:24

fluff I agree with cakes, why are you standing on one leg and carrying heavy stuff? Grin Seriously though, I was in agong with spd by the end of pg with dd and am very worried about getting it again. I am already being very careful about staying 'parallel' (not putting hips out of alignment) as this can bring it on. So no carrying heavy stuff apart from dd or one legged standing. I'm already training her to help me with my socks and shoes!

stacks I would just go for a normal pillow for under bump, maybe folded over until bump gets too big.

Loopyhasanotherbean · 17/07/2012 20:26

just a quick post as i'm trying to reduce how much time i spend sat at laptop due to pelvic pain! but fluff re physio, based on my experience, there isn't much they can do for you. I had spd late on with DS and pain when sitting (i think from my coccyx). This time round pain was worse, sooner and more widespread, so i was referred to the physio at our local hospital, i was about 16-17 weeks at the time, they gave me a tubigrip support to wear, and a leaflet with usual stuff re taking it easy, not opening legs, pillow between legs in bed, few basic exercises, and told me to go back in about 4 weeks time as they said they can do more hands on stuff....i went back as i was told, and the person i saw then said there is nothing they can do as i was too far gone and anything they did hands on could result in early labour, so they gave me a sacroiliac support belt, and said the only other thing they can do is supply crutches or a wheelchair if it gets any worse! It is plastered all over my green notes, so that they won't use stirrups in labour, and i've also put that i don't want forceps, would rather another CS than have risk of prolapse/incontinence/barbaric injuries to the baby.... although from the consultant appt last week, i still don't know if i will accept the ELCS they are offering, or try VBAC, although if i try VBAC they have said it will be EMCS if baby back to back, and if don't dialate quickly enough will be EMCS and if dilate fully, they will let me push for somewhere between 30-60 minutes max, then EMCS....so trying to accept in my mind that chances are i will end up with a CS, but VBAC would be better as could then drive/lift DS1 and recovery would be quicker....but then another part of my brain is thinking i should just accept ELCS as risks are a lot lower with ELCS than EMCS and more likely to have another major PPH if its an EMCS as my uterus will have been contracting, whereas with an ELCS no contracting so tiny risk of PPH....anyone got a crystal ball? running out of time to decide, EDD 8 weeks today, possibly less than 7 weeks if it is early like DS was....

oh and yes, v hot at night, have a fan on overnight aimed straight at me. and pillows - have a normal one between legs and dependant on how i feel, either have another normal one that i hug which slides slightly under bump for support, also have a dream genie but find those better for earlier on in pregnancy, i don't find it as comfy late on. Also have a full body pillow, but its been too hot to use it lately, as with that and me, there isn't much room left in the bed for DP, so then i get heat transferring from him too, and it becomes unbearable...

ReturnOfTheMunx · 17/07/2012 20:49

Hello All!

Sorry I have been AWOL for far too long, have been lurking a bit. Reasons far too complicated and owing to go into but there was a slight RL/ MN crossover issue.

9 weeks to go here, hope you are all doing well?

clickingtock · 17/07/2012 20:53

Nutella - I found writing a birth plan together was quite helpful, especially if your OH is going to be your 'voice'. But my DP was more interested in baby signing that the prospect of our HB.

Tough decision there Loopy. Wishing you luck whichever way you go.

Smegs - excited for your HB plans.

Never bothered with any special pillows with first pg but agree something that can then be used for b-fing sounds ideal.

I am pretty shattered. DP away. Mum arrived to 'help' on Sun eve but of course needs looking after really - even when she tries to help I have to help her to help! And according to DMum I am getting 'wider' than I did with DS. (Already.) I addressed the dog when I said I'd simply eaten too many pies. All just part of the general running commentary on my life. Thanks for that (though I guess I should be grateful for the interest - unlike DMIL who seems never to ask a question or comment on our little family life). Don't feel like a nice DD at all; hankering after peace and quiet though DS is enjoying himself with his gr'ma. I think tiredness makes me fairly grumpy; seems a bit wrong after wanting this baby so much - guilt, guilt! - but can't quite stop myself. Ah well, no doubt I'll get my turn in 20-30 years time when my grandchildren are coming along and I'll be making a pain of myself. Wink

Hope the weather doesn't get too hot for you v pg ladies. Still feel I've got all that to come...

clickingtock · 17/07/2012 20:54

Hi Munx - welcome back! xxx

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