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November 2012 - nearer the end than the beginning

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StuntNun · 28/06/2012 18:31

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FatimaLovesBread · 14/07/2012 10:11

Oooh Virasoothe. ValiumQueen PM if you need anymore of it, I could save you £8 next time.

Can't believe people have got up at 5am for it. I only shop it when I've got the VIP slot online. I got about 15 things for just under £60. Can't wait for them to be delivered.

What with that and the play mat I linked to up thread I'm a right bargain hunter this week Grin

ValiumQueen · 14/07/2012 10:43

Fatima I am hoping one tube will do. Do you work for the company then, or did you buy in bulk?

ValiumQueen · 14/07/2012 10:44

We had that play mat given to us, but the sound think broke quite quickly. It is a lovely mat, and I will be reusing it.

FatimaLovesBread · 14/07/2012 11:04

DH preferred that mat by far, we looked at quite a few others but DH was preoccuppied with them not looking comfy or squashy enough for laying on Grin

Wrt Virasoothe, I'm not at liberty to disclose Wink

Passmethecrisps · 14/07/2012 11:25

Thanks for all your help yesterday, ladies. I was having a right "OMG! What am I doing? I've barely held a baby before let alone cared for one". I think it's because I'm on holiday with nothing else to think about. Most holidays I have a project like the allotment, gym, work things and so on. This year I quite deliberately left the holidays totally free. For the first time ever I have nothing to occupy myself. For all those running around with kids and work - I am categorically not complaining!!

I feel much better now. I love the sentiment that you are learning to be a family together. I will look back over the book recs and maybe get a couple.

detective I am glad you checked in. It is rubbish that you feel you have I choose between taking time off now and getting extra shifts later

dixie I am sorry your coxyx is so painful - it sounds awful.

Not sure what the plan is for today. Currently sitting up in bed drinking decaf coffee Blush

ValiumQueen · 14/07/2012 11:28

Well, thank you for the kind offer Wink

ValiumQueen · 14/07/2012 11:35

pass I got the Keep It Simple Series KISS, and they are pretty good. Just been looking at my baby are one. Why don't you go to waterstones or the like and just sit and browse? You will quickly decide what format suits you best. I like the manual types, that are easily used for reference and with nice pictures.

Very jealous you are still in bed! I was up at 5.30! Grr. Joys of parenthood, especially when they are ill!

Passmethecrisps · 14/07/2012 12:23

valium I might do that. It's not raining so a walk out would do me good.

Just had a long chat with my MIL who was telling me about a lady she knows who was due 3 weeks before me who has had her baby! Scary thought. All seems well though. Bizarre to think that in three weeks we could theoretically have a baby. If we had it now it would be sleeping in a drawer because there is no where else for it to go!

Passmethecrisps · 14/07/2012 12:24

Oh, and valium I am sorry your children are poorly. I absolutely make the most of every minute in bed because of know my days are numbered!

ValiumQueen · 14/07/2012 12:27

If you had it now, it would be in special care unit for a long time. Best place for babies is mummy's tummy for a long while yet.

DesperateHousewife21 · 14/07/2012 15:08

I met up with a friend today who I havent seen in a while, we've both got 2 year olds. She said my bump was small and at 5 months she was huge.

So shes about a foot shorter than me (no joke) and I carry low which might be why but then I think come on I am only 22 weeks (nearly) how much of a heiffer do you expect me to be?

YellowWellies · 14/07/2012 16:23

I was going to say the 'all doing well' about a baby born at 20 anything weeks sounds like a bit of a euphemism.

The Eastenders premature baby story line is making me fume about how they just make out it's sitting by the incubator side holding baby's hand whilst they grow. Err no it's weekly brain scans, more lumbar punctures (with no anaesthetic as they don't use any anaesthetic for anything on ones so wee as it's likely to kill them!) than you can shake a stick at, struggling to find microscopic veins to take bloods from, alarms going off, infections, fecktard visitors coming into the ward not cleaning their hands, more infections, not sleeping, problems relating to having to feed them whilst the stomach is not finished developing (lots of reflux, food intolerances and allergies), glycerin to help the immature bowel poo, constant terrifying updates on the likely long term problems baby will have, deafness, blindness, brain damage, ADHD, the terror for the parents of bumping into anyone with a cough or cold knowing that this could kill their baby, worrying about not bonding with a child you can't touch, the pointless but unremitting guilt about why the baby was born early.

Anyone who has a baby born before 30 weeks has my total sympathy even if they put a brave face on in public about everything going well. I wouldn't wish it on anyone and am annoyed at the BBC trying to normalise the whole thing as now people will just assume having a baby before 30 weeks is no biggy. My niece is nearly a year and still has so many problems caused by her being prem' and will have for many more years before she catches up with her peers. But family and friends have watched Eastenders and just assume everything is fine now!

YellowWellies · 14/07/2012 16:24

Sorry for ranting!!!! xx

ValiumQueen · 14/07/2012 16:30

I am keeping my legs tightly closed after that Yellow. All perfectly true, but I really felt the feeling behind your post.

Thankfully I gave up watching Eastenders a long time ago.

My friend had her DD at 34 weeks, and it is easy to think crumbs, nearly there, but her little one was very unwell, and is still tiny. Every week counts. Every day counts.

ValiumQueen · 14/07/2012 16:33

How did your trip go pass. Do enjoy every moment of being able to lay in and rest x

YellowWellies · 14/07/2012 16:43

Every day and week really does count. I'm a bit blase now in that I think I could handle anything after 32 weeks but I know that's balls! I think I get so ranty about it because our family (let's just say the grandparents would rather go on holiday than come to their premmie grandchild's incubator to meet her, when they knew there was only a 50:50 odds she would survive!) just think it's no big deal and that after nearly a year, my sister is just making a meal out of the situation. But when you have to medicate your baby 12 times a day, still get woken 2 times a night for a feed as their tummies are still so small they can't sleep through, and hit new problems you weren't expecting, every day, this isn't something we should be normalising. It is so much tougher for everyone than having a baby and stays tough for years after they are born even if they thrive.

Detective glad to hear you're ok.

ValiumQueen · 14/07/2012 16:51

Not impressed at all by the grandparents. That is shocking.

Feel free to rant away as this is a safe place to do so. Statistically speaking we are likely to have at least one early one on this thread. I do hope not though. Still thinking of little Daisy who sadly did not even get a chance x

YellowWellies · 14/07/2012 17:02

One in ten babies is born prem, but only 1% of those are before 30 weeks. My sister doesn't want anymore kids but still feels a bit robbed by her last pregnancy as she only had 1 week in the third trimester! I'm very nervous about having a premmie as we're twins and I'm sh*tting it, that there is some genetic cause... and being 400 miles away from a decent hospital - is a bit scary biscuits.

Ahhhh let's just say the grandparents are fully paid up members of the 'once hippies' now materialistic baby boom / can't be arsed with grandparenting generation! It took our Dad six months to get around to meeting her even though she was his first grandaughter. Our Mum would have been there in a shot, but passed away when we were teenagers so it was a really tough time for my sis - especially as she had a 2 year old to cope with too. I tried to be there as much as poss' but (lived 400 miles away so could only be there 2 weeks a month) so it was friends (like MissMummy and her Mum) who saved the day.

May we all have snug bellydwellers who don't fancy making a move until October at the earliest!

ValiumQueen · 14/07/2012 17:49

Yellow, we're you a preemie? I am guessing you were early as a twin, but we're you very early? Also your sisters older child? I doubt it is anything that would translate to you, but I can understand your fears. Does your sister know why her baby came early?

YellowWellies · 14/07/2012 18:02

We were six weeks early but I think we were induced as my Mum only found out that day it was twins she was carrying (the joys of the 70s, no scans) and her blood pressure was a worry.

My sister's boy came 10 days late thank god. As for why her daughter came early - lots of tests done - possibly listeria, possibly exposure to some other virus / nasty. But no definitive answers. There is a possibility it could have been linked to tandem feeding her toddler during pregnancy - but no proof. She still beats herself up poor love xxx

ValiumQueen · 14/07/2012 18:19

Apparently the best indication is your mothers experiences. There certainly isn't a clear pattern as far as I can see. I had pre-eclampsia with DD1 and when I told my mum she said that she had too. She did not want to tell me in case she worried me. Had she told me, the hospital may have taken me a bit more seriously. They did not believe my clear symptoms - my BP was not high, I was just too fat for the cuff (find a fat bird cuff then you t*s) and my protein in urine was because I had not washed properly. I kid you not! And I was imagining the flashing lights and headaches were stress related. Not bitter though.

ValiumQueen · 14/07/2012 18:20

Gosh, the ranting is catching! Grin

YellowWellies · 14/07/2012 18:21

Shock Fecking hell!!!!!

YellowWellies · 14/07/2012 18:28

I hope the numpty who told you it was down to not washing properly lost a testicle or two!!!!

ValiumQueen · 14/07/2012 18:40

I did not expect that from another woman. I did tell her exactly what I thought of her though!

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