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PART 3!! Sept-2012 Baby Bus!! Christmas-and-New-Year-Shaggers-all-aboard!

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TinkerMaloo · 14/06/2012 19:15

Cant see another one anywhere on the board and part 2 is full up (finally) so here is part 3! (unless I'm just being a moron and missed it?)

Chat more please ladies, we are too fat and useless to do anything else! ;)

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Rachel130690 · 09/07/2012 11:59

Hey all hope everyone had a nice weekend, even through all the rain..

My ds has been head down from my 29week appointment, sk hoping he will stay that way :) I'm 32 weeks pg today.. Seems like last weeks are going to drag in. :( but trying to keep busy..

I agree with all the crying, I'm not normally this bad but watched ps I live you on tv one night and balled my eyes out. Also found it very tough not to cry when my mum left for two week hols, not sure if it's cause I'll miss her or I'm just crazy jealous she going somewhere hot. Cue oh hugging me telling me not to be silly she only away two weeks and will be back before you realize. :(

Heartburn here is still as bad, although last night it only came on as I turned tv off to sleep. It's like clock work. But milk seems to do the trick and stop it, though I think I'll buy some tums today to try them.

My eBay hospital bag came, it's huge def gonna have plenty of room and I'm sure I'll over pack. Came with some good items but will def need to stock up on more stuff, as I reckon it'll not last too long.

Okay I'm gonna get up (had a crazy long lie in today :))
Xx

Smallgreenone · 09/07/2012 13:06

Mine is head down already too at 30 weeks but I think they can turn anytime really. I think breech is only a problem if you're actually in labour. Sometimes the midwife will try and turn them from the outside too.
Totally agree with shopping around, our pram was supposed to be £999 in mamas and papas but got it for £700 with the price match they offer- thrilled! For whoever was looking morrisons were doing the avent newborn starter kit for £10 on saturday when I was in there.
I need to get some nice nighties for breast feeding in and pj's/ loungey stuff anyone got any recommendations? I'd like nice stuff but not expensive!

TinkerMaloo · 09/07/2012 13:06

I had a poo today :)

And I dont care if its TMI :P

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cakeladyc · 09/07/2012 16:24

Yay for TinkerMaloo!!

Cornishchough · 09/07/2012 17:01

Hello all

I am 32 weeks tomorrow with my 1st and getting quite nervous about it all really. I have just started to show these last 2 weeks and properly look pregnant now not just people thinking I have a beer gut! But still not really big enough for maternity stuff but too big for normal clothes..
Saw my midwife last week and baby is head down too so hope it stays like that as my sister had hers both breached..

I have started to buy things now and my Dbf is decorating the nursery just waiting for new carpet to come then I can start putting the cot in and making it look just right.

Well I hope it is alright to join this chat as I dont know anyone else who is expecting and so feel quite "lost" really with everything. My main dilemma at the moment is for a baby carrier as I have a problem with my neck and my muscles spasming up, a condition called Dystonia, which I had before I was pregnant and so I am trying to find out which carrier would be better for me not to have any strain on my neck/upper back and really dispurse it everywhere so any help would be lovely. People have been recommending Baby Bjorn but have also been told to stay away due to it being uncomfortable and also bad for baby...
x

TinkerMaloo · 09/07/2012 17:37

lol thanks cakelady :)

Welcome to the group cornish
I personally would not recommend a baby bjorn (or any other carrier of a similar style). In my experience baby isnt comfortable in them and they are even more uncomfortable for the parent!?

Mei Tai styles, or ring sligs or wraps are way better suited to purpose, but I wouldnt like to say which is easiest on the neck... maybe the mei tai or a wrap? Im sure others will have helpful advice for you on this soon.

I need my baby to turn soon! I remember DS turning at a late stage and it was a horrible sensation, nearly passed out in the street!... Hurry up in there! I read the other day about moxibustion... Sounds a little bit mad that some smoke under your toe can turn them from breech but I will be trying it if he doesnt do his own thing soon!

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Macaroons · 09/07/2012 17:51

cornish welcome to the group. I'm a first time mum-to-be too! re baby carrier I think different people recommend different things. I had three friends who gave birth in Jan / Feb this year and all three of them highly recommend bjorn baby active carrier. So I suggest you go to a store and check it out yourself. I have bought one as it looks very supportive.

funchum8am · 09/07/2012 18:45

I will be keen to get a sling/carrier as I live in a first floor flat and will have to keep the buggy down in the car, so need a sling for short trips to the shops on our street and for walking down to the car. I may also use it round the house if baby likes it. A pupil of mine told me her mum has a company supplying slings and carriers and they have meet ups where you take your baby and try on a few, and you can hire them so you don't buy one til you know it's right for you. The downside being you have to wait til you've had your baby and there's a meet up near you, but it is a good idea in principle. I've got a second hand Baby Bjorn from eBay to tide me over until I can get to a sling meet. A colleague who has three kids under 3 says he loves his Baby Bjorn, but he is a bloke and I'm not sure how much difference that makes!

Just off to my first ever NCT class with DH - can't wait to meet some couples who will be in the same position and going through the same things at the same time as us :)

Loopyhasanotherbean · 09/07/2012 19:48

Re baby carriers, the issue with baby bjorn ones is the position they push the babys legs into, they can damage their hips and are really not a good buy, but because they are a big brand, they are everywhere. I am not by any means a sling/carrier expert, but i bought a close one last time and didn't get on with it, DS never felt secure in it, and it made my clothes ride up, and pulled them in in all the wrong places, not something you want to wear post-baby unless you have victoria beckhams figure! But a lot of people have mentioned to me the Ergo carriers, which are apparently much comfier for parents and baby, no issues re babys legs/hips, and so i think i might take a trip over to Peterborough after the baby is born, as one of their official stockists is based there. Word of warning, there are lots of fake ergos being sold, so it's important to check if you buy one from a legit stockist.

I'm excited as DP agreed to buy me a new changing bag at the weekend, not got it yet, but it is ordered and paid for and just waiting for UPS to do their stuff. We had a very cheap one for DS, but it's like a bottomless pit, and no way it's big enough for 2 childrens worth of nappies/clothes/stuff plus my own! The new bag will be big enough to use as a hospital bag, so will get packing as soon as it arrives, as i can't shake the feeling that this baby will be early.

Re breech babies, bean is already head down, was at 28 week appointment and certain still is. Someone who we met at NCT classes when having DS had a breech baby, and he didn't turn till 39 weeks - she had to go in for a scan, and if he hadn't turned they were going to try to turn him manually, although i've heard this can be very painful and can sometimes require gas and air, so i'd recommend anything you can do to turn your baby. Have heard spinning babies website mentioned on mumsnet before, not sure of exact website address but sure google will find it!

Loopyhasanotherbean · 09/07/2012 20:03

PS resulka that is really crap of them. I'd be tempted to stick 2 fingers up to them and have a big cream cake tonight :) Are there any other hospitals nearby that you can use? only wondering, as although i don't know the full rules here, i have a BMI of 32 and i have been told by my consultant that there is no reason why i can't use a pool if i want to, as long as they use monitoring throughout.

weenurse i hope finn is doing well?

Re slouching/sitting....word of warning, that you could end up with a back to back baby if you are not careful. My DS was back to back, followed advice, he went the right way, and then the bugger changed a few days before he was born, so was back to back again. Back to back labours are generally longer, harder and more painful....especially if whisked to hospital away from your calm home birth plans, made to lie on your back on a bed (worst position for a back to back baby as it narrows the gap the baby needs to come through) and so ended up with a category 1 EMCS under GA....like i said, just a word of warning!!

Re breastfeeding/bottles/pumps....i may get shot down in flames, but i genuinely believe that no one should have issues with supply/demand if you just stick to breast feeding and that introducing bottles disrupts that...and thats from lots of people who did mess things up, as most people who had a baby around when i did thought it wouldn't matter to give a bottle of formula here or there, but their supply dwindled. I fed DS for 15 months, and intend to feed this one for around the same time frame, as we'd like to try for number 3 jan 2014, and periods are unlikely to appear until i drop to 1 feed per 24 hours. Like others, i really cannot explain just how rewarding and enjoyable it is, but the first couple of months may be uncomfortable or down right painful, but after that, i had no pain at all, even when DS got teeth! I agree that having formula in the house can be a bad thing, and you are more likely to stick with BF'ing if you have no alternatives...

Rachel130690 · 09/07/2012 20:53

Hello Cornish and welcome hope your keeping well? I'm a first time mum as well :)

Re: baby carrier I'm hoping to not bother with this, it's not something I ever see and one using and I'm hoping I'll not need anything like this. Hopefully you'll find one that's comfortable for you Cornish.

Tinker I hope your dc turns round for you soon and you don't have to suffer through that again.

Funchum I have my first antenatal class tomorrow night, I'm very excited but nervous. It's about labour eeeek not looking forward to that

Loopy where did you get your new changing bag? I need to get one but haven't bothered looking yet...

I have 8 bottles in total and a microwave steriliser.. Am not planning on breast feeding, I think I will try it but im not putting any pressure on myself, if I do it a couple of times I'll be happy enough but if I can't get it then I'll ff.. It's my first and I'm quite young so don't wanna put anymore pressure on myself.

Oh I've started a thread in pregnancy, about packing my hospital bag, anyone that could check it out and give me some advice would be great :) TIA Xxx

twizzlestix · 09/07/2012 22:27

Yay for the poo tinker Grin I'm sure I'll feel need to announce it once my iron tablets kick in!!

Hi cornish I'm expecting 1st too so can't help re slings but lots of other, more informed mummies have replied.

rusulka that's so rubbish. My consultant said I wasn't suitable for home birth due to previous thyroid issues and I was devastated. Actually burst into tears when looking around the CLU! It's a big difference to the relaxing HB in familiar environment plan! Hope you get some choices, I've been told that you can refuse CLU... I'm not brave enough though Sad

Had my growth scan and at 32+2, she weighs a healthy 4lb 10oz and is on the middle lines for everything :) very reassuring. My blood pressure is v. low. So with that on top of low iron, getting through last few weeks before mat. leave should be fun!

twizzlestix · 09/07/2012 22:29

Oh, we've also got our first antenatal class (NCT) should I take anything along with me?

am988 · 10/07/2012 12:41

Hello, haven't posted for months so I'm like a new addition here! Sorry... just reading some of your posts - the first time mums to be, and it reminds me so much of my first pregnancies, also did the NCT, it was good, met some of my best friends there.. but do keep an open mind about what you hear. No way is the 'right' or 'wrong' way.. just trust your instincts. And by the way, although our teacher was very passionate about not having epidural.. i'm glad I had it - as my expeience ended up as an EMCS - although whilst going through it I thought I was doing something eternally wrong. So... please what i suggest is.. keep an open mind.
It is second time round for me, with dS2 on the way - I'm feeling so exhausted.. I don't remember being so tired at this point with my first pregnancy - maybe it is my 18month old - and work.. and well it just seems much harder. Do other second time mum to be agree? or is it me??

well, a good afternoon to all...
xx

TinkerMaloo · 10/07/2012 12:42

loopy I agree re supply issues, there are always phases where baby has to suckle a lot to boost supply and some people mistake this for themselves not making enough milk. Its not true! Baby is just upping your supply for you, they know what they are doing, let them do their thing :)

The only exception to this might be mothers who are not eating enough in order to do a victoria beckham...

twizzle I never did ante-natal classes but I dont imagine you need anything! They will provide mats to sit/lie on surely? Unless you want to take cakes to keep you going of course ;)

I just ordered this www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0040JGGFU/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00 so goodbye to my horrible-free-boots-same-as-everyone-elses-changing-bag and hello roomy suitable for two offspring shiny new (and cheap yay!) changing bag! :)

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Loopyhasanotherbean · 10/07/2012 14:59

rachel just because you are young doesn't mean breastfeeding couldn't be for you. My sister has 4 children, her first was born when she was only 17, and she breastfed all of hers. Admittedly not as long as i fed my DS, but she did a minimum 6 months with them all, and i think it was closer to the 9 month mark before she stopped, and that was fear of teeth rather than anything else! I don't think it matters how old you are, any first time mum will have the same worries as the next, but you just need to trust yourself and your baby, and your baby will want to be fed, they don't hang about, and if you need any support or reassurance, then ask the staff at the hospital, there will be lots of breastfeeding experts who can help you if you aren't sure over that (or anything else at all baby related!)

Re changing bags, well last time i had a very cheap one from kiddicare, cost about £8, but i needed something big enough for a 22 month old who still has reflux and a newborn and everything that they need plus enough space for my clutter, and DP has very very kindly bought me a Ju ju be be prepared. We watched a video on youtube and were sold by just how much the woman unpacked from one. Decided on black/silver (more manly for when DP carries it :) ). But struck lucky and someone was selling one on ebay, as new, but for nearly £40 less than the usual price they sell for in the UK (there was a website i found selling them as a back up called jellybeangorup.co.uk and i couldn't find any cheaper). It arrived today and i am very pleased with it. It really does feel good quality and it should easily last us through the 4 DC's we want in total, and should be a good bag for the hospital and as a overnight/weekend bag. Very much looking forward to packing it now!! My mom would have a fit if she knew how expensive it was, but we barely needed to buy anything this time round, so its my treat! (courtesy of DP) Just looking at getting a musical swing, and think that might be about it now.

twizzle we didn't need to take anything for ours when we were having DS, and drinks and biscuits were provided. Echoing other comments, NCT was great for making friends, but take some of the course content with a pinch of salt. On ours they never covered any issues, and made us all think breastfeeding is easy and only hurts if you are doing it wrong. Which i disagree with! i think you should expect it to hurt to start with, but that it not last and then it will be highly enjoyable. And ours never really covered enough on CS, as none of us on our course was wanting a CS....however i ended up with an EMCS and it would have been most helpful if they had actually covered more on CS's and recovery as part of the course.

tinker i am with you 100% re your breastfeeding comments. Trouble is i don't think the NHS has enough resources to educate people on how it actually works, and that it is normal for a baby to suckle for the heck of it, to effectively put their order in for more milk for the future days. I also heard one person say how she had tried to express, and it started to come out looking like dishwater, so she decided she wasn't making proper milk and her child would be better off with formula....when if she had just kept expressing she would have realised that it would have then come out like milk, and that it's only the first bit that is thinner/watery. She was gutted when it was explained to her by the health visitor (she'd already quit by then so had to stick with formula).

am988 i'm with you on the tiredness. DS just turned 20 months, and he is an absolute angel but he is wearing me out beyond belief. I am so tired, and yet when i go to bed, ruddy pregnancy insomnia kicks in. I haven't had a solid nights sleep since before BFP and to top it all, i came down with a vomiting bug on sunday, so have barely had any sleep the last 2 nights, and DP came down with it last night too, so i woke 3 times to hear him leaving our room, 3 times him coming back in, once DS crying out in the night, plus whatever times i woke of my own accord as still feeling rough myself. Not actually been sick since Sunday night, but barely eaten anything and feel rough everytime i eat or drink something. All i kept down on Sunday was half a sandwich. Yesterday wasn't great either. And so far today i've eaten half a bacon sandwich and 2/3 a muiller rice. About to attempt something else. Wish me luck!!

oikopolis · 10/07/2012 16:10

Hi all!! 29 weeks here today! (I think... or is it 30? also: how do i manage to lose track of these things??)

It's boiling hot where i am... we are sleeping in the basement on the fold-out bed... it's murder on my hips (memory foam mattress in bedroom and i've become spoilt!)

is anyone else really struggling with getting up and mobile in the mornings? due to hip/sacrum pain?? it's soooo bad. (even when i've slept on the memory foam!) i have do to my John Wayne impression for the first 15 minutes, can barely get up and down the stairs.

also turning over/switching positions just kills my sacrum/coccyx area. i think i have spd, but the posterior type and not the normal, front-of-hips type.

also: has anyone had this: when i wake up, a few of my fingers on each hand, and sometimes my thumb, will feel really creaky/arthritic and almost like i slept funny on top of them. so weird! this started last week! i know lots of ladies get carpal tunnel, i'm wondering if it's something to do with blood flow/swelling around nerves etc?

Turquoisecat · 10/07/2012 16:19

Hi all, just keeping a foot in! Got my last antenatal class tonight (we went for a local midwife run weekend one) - it's been really useful, and surprisingly they've been very open about all choices available (bf/ff, pain relief choices, etc.). It's also helped to educate DH a bit about all the 'gross' stuff that will be happening!

As per slings/carriers, DH wants one for him to use, but I think I'll have to do all the research, and then convince him he chose it! Grin Just concentrating on only six weeks left of work [relieved emoticon]!

cakeladyc · 10/07/2012 16:24

First timer here too - I must admit I am worried about not getting on with breastfeeding, but i am definitely going to give it a go.
We have bought a Tommee Tippee starter set with bottles, sterilizer etc and my friend has given me her electric breast pump to try because i want to express but i have to go back to work after 6 months, so i will want to introduce a bottle at some point as LO will be with my mum or childminder/nursery while im at work, but i dont want to use formula for as long as i can help it.

My bump feels really hard today, its normally really solid but today it feels as solid as a rock!

MakeTeaNotWar · 10/07/2012 16:49

Just to say a quick hello! No news here apart that I am letting DD watch more and more TV as I don't have the energy to keep up with her toddler self - naughty Mummy.

Loopy I wholeheartedly agree with your bfing insights - I wish NCT had told me some of the truth about it being painful (for some, not everyone) and relentless as it took me by surprise but once it was conquered (which took a tough 6 weeks) I loved it and it was very easy and convenient then DD thoughtfully self-weaned at 12 months right before I was due back to work!

ballroomblitz · 10/07/2012 22:11

Oh yes Loopy . I hadn't anticipated when I started breasfeeding it was uncomfortable and painful. Like a needle through the nipple at first although it did get better.

Much as I would love to say I would go 6 months bf I know I probably won't. A couple of months I'll be happy with. Selfishly it's more to do with wanting to get my body back to myself as this pregnancy wasn't planned and I've struggled a bit with antenatal depression. Mentally I'm not sure if I can cope with 6 months of feeding on top of pregnancy, but you never know what way I will feel once she's here. I got a lovely pretty nursing bra the other day and got all excited at the thought of having her here and feeding her myself.

am988 I'm shattered too and my ds is older - 4yo - so can occupy himself a good bit more.

Rachel130690 · 10/07/2012 22:58

Loopy I didn't mean it that way I just meant I'm still young and I'm planning more dcs in the future so if I struggle with this one badly I'll hopefully have another chance, but I'm hoping I'll manage a good few feeds but I'm not really sure how long I'll want to bf for if I do get the hang of it. Suppose I'll just see how it goes and hope for the best :)

Had my first nct class tonight.. Was interesting but was more to do with physio and your groin and what changes during pregnancy and aches and pains. Then we done some relaxation and breathing. I near feel asleep tbh. But was glad I went. Next one should be more informative as its about the birth and pain relief.

I'm being killed ATM with heartburn, (I'm actually away to hunt for some gaviscon now :() hope its not as bad as I think

pgreen · 11/07/2012 11:02

Hello ladies good to see everyone is in (generally) fine spirits and gearing up for this final stretch. I've got the date for my CS now so in theory know what we are aiming at... although the little monkey might come early of course- in which case it'll be an EMCS for me. I start NCT tonight... on my own... arghhh as DH is away on business. He'll be around for most of them but I set him a deadline of getting all his "travel" done by end of July in case our little man decides to come early. This means I have to rock up to the first NCT stag though.... hopefully everyone will be nice. I think it'll be kinda funny at NCT that I know I'm having a CS I get the impression that they only cover it as a kind of after thought.

Interesting seeing all the bf chatter. My sister in law really struggled with her first, she persevered and got there but it was very painful. She was lucky that there was a bf group near her where you could drop in for advice & help. It's not the walk in the park I had assumed it would be. I think I'll be getting a couple of bottles anyway for expressing.... no knowledge about them what so ever.... it's like japanese to me. volume, teats, flow rates.... think I'll need a tutor lol.

Feeling mostly good except the restless sleep. I'm having to sleep almost sitting up as lying on my side is giving me pins & needles and dead arms. Cramps too in my legs but not as bad as last week.

Had a funny conversation with my MIL who's been to visit. She was 'anxious' to see that I have the cot already (albeit still in flat pack mode) and I said the travel system is coming in 10 days - she said it shouldn't be "here" and I should have had it delivered to a friend. Then I couldn't help myself and showed her the stack of baby clothes/stuff we already have and she seriously freaked.... Way weird.

Anyway waiting for a delivery and now have the munchies for something seriously sweet and sticky. Wonder what I have in the kitchen/.....

cjbk1 · 11/07/2012 11:03

sorry to keep hogging the thread but I had such an awful morning I need to write it down;
work rota'd me off today (we pay for nursery for dd age 4)but expect me to
attend a meeting at 12Angry
I was out with ds age 6 at his school play last night
dh hadn't tidied up atall while we were out
ds was allowed a lie-in and late registration this morning but he refused to lie-in and wasn't very nice atall Angry
dh hadn't done dishwasher or kitchen assuming I'd do it all as I was off work Angry
dd wouldn't eat breakfast before nursery and deliberately spilt it everywhere Angry
I explained to ds how dissapointed I was by his behaviour and how he'd be punished (no tv etc) THEN he takes himself back to bed naked and refuses to get up
dd more cooperative by now ate breakfast
had to physically dress ds who'd made himself all 'heavy'
I cried a bit about how he'd spoilt what should've been a nice lazy morning Blush
finally got them to nursery(they gave her even more breakfast!) and school then come back and discover no tea bags!!!!!
dragged self to shop finally enjoying a cup of red bush tea and some nice organic biscuits.......
please have a better morning than this!

mummyfirsttime · 11/07/2012 13:31

Is it just me or is anyone else feeling like rubbish! 7wks 5 days till due date and it cant come soon enough! Feeling very tired uncomfortable anxious down about GD and just really impatient! DP really getting alot of moans from me and think hes getting tested! Any idea how I can shake this feeling. Still working for another 5 weeks which seems forever.

Sorry for moan but maybe better here than to DP again :)

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