TTC A 2012 BABY - THE GRADUATES PART 4!

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Mamma and McKayz's thread!

It's the home run ladies

She blew raspberries on my arms later today and thought she was the bee's knees then she dribbled in my mouth and thought it was hysterical .

Yep, I bet you were one of the scary fifth years when I was a lowly year seven. I was head prefect by the way, in the end! Also a massive geek.

November sounds good!

I just tried to bath jake on my own! It was a disaster! My arms are too little and he is too big bath time is obviously a daddy thing,
I was thinking today it would be nice to have another, like sooner rather than layer and waiting till I go back to work seemed like a long time please someone slap me with a wet fish!!
Fools if you want to arrange a meet up before nov is be up for that I have no social life the mums where I live all have to sort feeds round their horses and come to baby group in heels full make up and immaculate clothes so when I turned up in jeans and a top with vomit on I was a bit no offence if you ladies are like that, but my first impressions of you are that you are all a bit more normal
Daddy is home now so effective parenting commences!!

I have no idea what effective parenting is any more. After Lauren was an absolute love when we were with ghost & Jools, she turned into a monster when we got to work, and has only been ok for about an hour since. We've been trying to get her to go to bed for the last 3 hours All she does is cry. She's been fed, changed, winded, cuddled, put down, had teething powder, paracetamol and nothing seems to be working. At this rate I'll not get to my night out tomorrow, as I'll be a zombie Not such a bad thing though, as I've nothing to wear anyway Sorry, big 'woe is me' post

Aw davina put her somewhere you can't hear here and leave her for a few min, if she is crying anyway it won't do her any harm, eat some choc down a glass of wine then tell her to stop being so grumpy I sometime leave jake for a few min when he is really bad, apparently you could hear him down the street the other day

I'd just like to day - urgh! So tired after a rough night with my adorable children ([hmm)] tag teaming me. And I've a busy day before my night out, so I don't even think I'll get chance for a power nap.

So are we nearly there with landing a date? Bun & Epic we've not heard from you ladies yet? Are you able to come too?

Sorry you had a bad night Davina. Fliss was a sausage last night. Rocked her to sleep, put her in her crib, glance at adorable sleeping girl, see her grinning back at me. Repeat. For three hours. It very much was a smile that said "Haha! Na, I'm just fucking with you, I'm not really asleep!"

Her face was so funny that I'm struggling to mind. She's asleep now of course. Unfortunately, the lack if sleep has made yesterday's rubbish mood worse. In other news, I've added Helena from nick Jr to my "smack round the face with a wriggling wet kipper" list. Ugh, she's annoying.

Another 1 with a shocking night. 3 hours trying to get Violet to sleep. Then she woke 2 hours later for her night feed. Refuses to sleep in the Moses basket so I give in and let her sleep on me. She starts snuffling an hour and half later but refuses to be next to me/in the basket/anywhere but on my chest snuffling so then I'm awake from 4:30am. Literally 3 hours sleep last night. I'm wrecked!!!! On the plus side no night time weirdness from me because I was awake for all of it!!!

I hope you can make it through your day davina and have a good night out

How on earth do you get them to sleep in their baskets? I really don't like co-sleeping because I don't sleep properly as I'm worried. Plus DH is a very heavy sleeper, it's almost impossible to wake him up so come next week and we can't co-sleep.

We were up from half 1 til half 3 feeding and then she wouldn't go into the basket and ended up sleeping in my bed. She slept and I didn't really. I kept waking up.

Congratulations McKayz! I love the name Rosalie - it's beautiful!

You're not the only one who can't get their kid into a moses basket/cot, Odie doesn't sleep in his cot/bednest either. We're working towards getting him into his bednest for at least some of the night (not very successfully - but we are trying!) particularly as he's getting to be a very restless sleeper now; limbs flailing all over the place, so as much as I love snuggling up with him, the time is rapidly approaching when he will need to be in his own bed as there isn't space in ours for all three of us!

Northampton in November - sounds great! Sounds like the weekend of the 17/18th is going to be best from comments above - is that right? I'd prefer not the 24th as is too near xmas for travelling about (plus we've had heavy snow around that time the last few years and the south east just grinds to a complete halt when it snows - Brighton & Hove in particular cannot cope with snow at all!) Odie will definitely come up, and probably DP too, will depend on work etc nearer the time (he was in NY last year!) If no other DPs are going I'll leave him at home though - he will cope having a weekend free to play xbox and eat pizza! I'll most likely drive up and make a weekend of it - we have friends moving to Nottinghamshire next month, which is only another couple of hours away, so will perhaps visit them as well. If it ends up just being me & Odie I may take the train though I think - will see how he is with travelling in the car nearer the time. If we do drive up - trouble bun we have a 6 seater car so may be able to offer lifts depending on who is going & when! (Might need a trailer for all the buggies/baby gear though!! )

Ooh - just saw troubles list - so for me:

EpicOde
Free all of November, but would prefer not 24th if poss.
Can drive or take public transport (and potentially offer lifts?)
Happy to stay over or do day trip.
Don't mind week or weekend
Want to bring Odie
Is in Hove - so South (East) Coast!

Well we had the appointment for MiL - as ever it was a bit of a cock up - that hospital couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery! They sent us an appointment with the wrong person - doh! Anyway - they checked the details on the computer for us and it seems to be good news; no new tumours and only 1mm growth in the last 5 months on the one in her lung. Likely course of action is wait and rescan regularly - no treatment unless it gets much bigger/more aggressive/spreads. But as we saw the wrong person, we have to go back up in a couple of weeks for an appointment with the senior oncologist to get an official decision. Still - glad it wasn't really bad news!

ellie - I bathe Odie on my own using one of these It means I have both hands free to wash/play with him instead of trying to reach over the bath to hold him safely in the water while he wriggles and squirms! Even more fun though - today I had a bath with Odie (DP is off sick so was there to take Odie/dry him at the end while I got washed myself). Oh wow - so much fun! He was so happy too - all big grins and kicking legs!!

davina ghost Am that you guys went to the same school - what a small world!! How lovely that more of us are meeting up thanks to this thread! It's so lovely when the internet creeps into RL in a nice way like this! :)

Mamma I was doing weird stuff when tired after having Odie (at one point I turned to DP in bed and said "was it really only 20 minutes since they broke my waters" - we were home and he was holding Odie at the time! Poor guy, was quite worrying for him having me so out of it) - it was due to the beta blockers I was still on for the pre-eclampsia! Was such a relief when I was able to finally stop taking them, particularly as every time they made me "drift/lose time" I was off back at the hospital reliving my nightmare 2 weeks there - very distressing)! Being sleepy/v tired really aggravated it - was OK when I was properly awake/up and about! Hope your birth trauma starts to abate a bit soon - but if it doesn't, there's no shame in asking for help/talking to someone to help you process everything that happened.

Bun aw - thanks for lovely comments about Odie! He's fighting off his dad's bug atm so is grouchy and sleepy but remains ever so cute! He's just waking up on his dad in fact so I may have to cut this short!! Gah!! Must catch up again soon - once we are clear of this horrible bug - you really don't want it!

Evil bug aside we are doing well - I played squash on Sunday, for the first time since I was about 20 weeks pregnant! Was great!! Dad beat me 3-2, but they were all close games! Couldn't believe it - was expecting to be shit but was actually still OK! Found it very tiring, but was so great to be doing real exercise again! We took turns playing, me Dad and DP (his first time ever playing!) with whoever had Odie taking him for walks around the sports centre in his buggy - Dad took him first while DP and I played - it was the first time anyone other than DP had had him out of my sight/away from me! Was expecting to feel really stressy about it - but was fine! My Dad really dotes on Odie (well, all his grandkids - he's so smitten!) and I know he is able to pick Odie up/calm him down and bring him back to me straight away if he cries - so was alright!

Fools I can actually understand the desire to sign up for healthy stuff like runs etc - I never used to, but since I went into remission and started playing squash again I've really enjoyed pushing myself and getting/being fit! Just be careful not to overdo it eh! Don't go breaking yourself! :)

Right - sorry for all the stuff i've no doubt missed out - DP is now changing Odie and he will no doubt need feeding the very second the clean nappy goes on!!

I'm on the train to Manchester feeling really self conscious and that I've forgotten something! I'm wearing one of my MIL's tops that she bought and stuck in the cupboard. It's really nice. It's a black wrap type top that is covered in glitter, so it's just the sort of top I'd wear The only thing is, it's a real booby top and cos I've not long fed Lauren it's slightly loose! I know I'm looking it at from the worst possible angle but I feel like my boobs are going to fall out But on the plus side, I'm in my size 12 jeans and don't actually look like a heifer

For some reason I'm really nervous as well - I've no idea why, as it's my team that I'm going out with! Possibly because the longest I've been away from Lauren is 2 hours and I was only just down the road. But she's plenty of milk, and I left her playing happily with Daddy on her play gym, so I know she'll be fine. I, on the other hand, am a different matter Sorry for me,me,me post - will try to catch up properly later. Hope you all have a lovely evening!

Ps Epic - lovely to have you back, and glad to see you're living up to your new nn

Hi all! Sorry for being MIA again, I have been blessed with a dose of tonsillitis. Oh joy Terrible sleep again lately, especially last night - I watched a film with DP that had a scene with a man having a wound stitched up - cue me freaking out a little with flash backs from the two rather grim repair jobs after having the DC. Didn't realise how much it still affects me! So I'm going to (finally) have a good ramble about Lilly's birth, from what I still remember that is - feel free to skip over it

So, I was going great guns at home contraction wise, told to come in, contractions slowed once I got to the hospital (just like they had done with DS when I was sent home just to have to return again less than an hour later) the MW at triage wanted to send me home but I politely refused because after doing it all before I knew this was it. She didn't believe me, but agreed to give me an hour to see if I was in established labour again and if I wasn't she would send me home again. Ha She giggled and joked as she lead us to the 'room' that they affectionately call 'The Cupboard' - I can't stress enough just how tiny and claustrophobic this room was. I had to ask her to check how dilated I was and I was 4cm so no idea what her problem was.
After nearly 2 hours of listening to her have a chit chat with the other MW's she hadn't returned and my contractions were really strong with awful back pain (nobody checked but it turned out that Lilly was back to back) so I got my stuff together hobbled walked out of triage and told her I needed to go to the labour ward (which I had already been told was completely empty with only 3 women in triage, so why they couldn't put me there I don't know). I ended up doubled over with the urge to push before I got to my room at which point my lovely MW Flo met me with a wheelchair, gas and air and informed me the birth pool was free if I wanted to use it (god I loved that woman).
She helped me in when the pool was half filled which was lucky because I gave birth less than a minute after she'd turned the tap off! I was so conscious of trying to control my pushing as my body just takes over and I had pretty bad internal tearing after DS's birth. But that didn't happen, the pushes were so strong that the MW had to tell me to try and stay in the water with the pushes in case Lilly took a breath while I was out of the water and then be submerged again as I was nearly launching myself out of the blinking pool! Anyway, I actually felt myself tear when I pushed her head through the birth canal in just one push, freaked me out that did. One more push and her head was out. DP was creeped out because he watched Lilly's head do a 180 as she finally turned the right way round, "it was like the freaking Exorcist!" he said Then with one more, her body was out. That moment was amazing, I caught her myself and we all just watched her for a couple of seconds before I lifted her out of the water, she was so peaceful, it was just incredible
But, then I had to hand her over to DP as soon as he'd cut the cord and get out of the pool to deliver the placenta as they were worried about blood loss (turns out that was just from the tearing). The placenta was huge and took over half an hour to deliver (it was 4lbs!).
Then, last but not least, the repair job... jesus! I had torn TMI alert! my perineum almost completely and had a graze on either side going all the way up and meeting at my, ahem, clitoris (suddenly very conscious that I'm going to be meeting you all face to face ) and it turns out that anaesthetic really doesn't work very well on me as both times I ended up mostly relying on G&A. So that was a hoot and a half Anyway, physically, I'm all fine and dandy now. Just seem to be left with a bit of a fear of stitches and not so pleasant memories!

Phew! Sorry, after all that self-indulgent nonsense, I have forgotten most of everything you've all said!

Epic sorry to hear about the germies hope everyone's better soon!
Big relief about your MiL! How terrible about the mix up with appointments though, how awful that would have been if the results weren't as positive!

Ghost and Davina that's amazing that you were in the same school!

McKayz Lilly didn't start sleeping in her cot until about 3 months - sorry probably not what you want to hear! Sounds like you're doing such an amazing job, I thought I had it hard with DP not having any paternity leave (he's self employed) with a toddler and a newborn but I bow down to you! One strong woman!

I'm so sorry, I've forgotten everything else I wanted to say and I fear this is now quite a lengthy and rambling post!

Have a great time, Davina! Sounds like you look gorgeous and I'm sure you'll fill out the top before you know it!

Hi Epic! Thrilled your mil seems to be doing okay and you're enjoying playing squash again. Hope Odie feels better soon.

So Felicity had her first jabs today. She has since projectile vomited quite impressively. Glad I stripped her and had her on a sheet on the sofa or both would be ruined. Shame I hadn't bothered to get changed myself!

Hope you're all getting this lovely sunshine. We have had nearly 30 degrees today! Hope man (dh is in my bad books) gets home soon as we are having takeaway tonight.

Oops, x post Bun..... wow! Well done you! :o at your dp and "exorcist". Sorry the triage midwife was an incompetent twatty fool less than helpful but thankfully your final midwife was wonderful.

You felt yourself tear?!?! I can't comprehend that, you poor thing!

Oh Davina have a fantastic night!!

Oh yes Fools it was... unpleasant! Won't forget that sensation for a long while! But feeling the stitches still has more of an affect on me for some reason. I think it must be because they were so much more prolonged, at least the tear was quick
Oh dear, why is man in your bad books?
I'm about your take away, I'm stuck on soup and jelly

That's what I forgot - the meet up!
Another vote for the weekend of 17th/18th. (I definitely can't do the first 2 weekends as it's my mum's 60th birthday on the 7th so I'll be in Wales.
I'll have Lilly with me. I doubt DP will come so he'll stay at home with DS.
If it's Saturday I would happily stay overnight. But I think it was Ghost(?) can't do Saturdays. I won't be able to stay overnight then as I'll have to get home for DP's work the next day.
Travel wise I have no idea. Epic It'd be great to travel up with you/share travel costs but I wouldn't want to impede with your plans to meet up with friends, so would be happy to get a train if it's better for you?

Same for me epic!

Have you had a good night out davina? I hope you've had fun and got to let your hair down

*that weekend suits me too in Nov. don't know if I'll drive or train it but sure we'll manage something.

Yesterday was a goooood day. DD slept a mammoth 4.5hr nap in the morning to make up for her night. She must have been exhausted, poor thing. Bonus that I got to have a nice nap too which made all the difference. I found the breast feeding section in MN too and posted about some issues we're having. A lady suggested we try biological nurturing as a different feeding position. It's been an instant success and both of us have enjoyed it so much more. DD actually looks like she's happy to be at the breast rather than getting into a frenzy. So felt really positive about it. Got DD off to sleep nicely. Just done the night feed with no fuss. Currently expressing then back to bed. DO has tomorrow off work so I have help for 3 while days. Positive thoughts here oh I've not done anything yet tonight in my sleep either!

Yay mamma! That's what solved the probs for me and Fyfe too! he now feeds sitting astride my knee...we get endless comments about how cute or funny it looks but it works for us.
I just had my worst night yet by a long way, I realise it's nothing compared to most people but it's all relative right?
This last week Fyfe had added in a 1.30 feed to the lovely 20.30-3.00 then 3.00-6.00 then hourly from there thing we had going on...then, last night 20.30-00.00, woke for a feed then woke for 10 min feeds at (drum roll please) 1.00, 2.00, 4.30, 5.30, 6.30, and now! I suppose it is lucky that I went at 22.00!
He's 4 months on Sunday so I wonder if this is the dreaded regression...I definitely don't like it!

Sorry trouble but that is the four month sleep regression, classic (and very familiar!) j has only really improved this week at 23 weeks! But she went straight from that into teething...

Hope you enjoyed your night out davina?

don't really want it for a couple more nights let alone a couple more months..

New tumble dryer arrived, it's fing faulty, leaking water everywhere, jake has a cold and in grumpy/screamy and has had 13oz of milk since midnight stressed Ellie

Sorry, yay mamma, davina I'm of you escaping the children!! And ?trouble, I'm with you on the no sleeping front, didn't sleep after 3am last night. Sorry if I've missed someone/thing am off to eat a lot of choc now and stop feeling sorry for myself

Oh and bun, ow, don't worry about being even if you introduced yourself as hi I'm Sarah aka bun, I still wouldn't remember! So don't worry

Another night the same a ten min feed almost every hour! Not as bad as you being up since 3 though ellie...I know I shouldn't moan as have never had it bad with him but I feel like I've been hit by a bus, I can't shift this sinus thing, can't hear properly and can't smell which is making me feel . Thoroughly fed up...he won't feed for more than 2 mins as everything is suddenly so interesting so just know I'll get it all again tonight. DH is being really annoying and making it all about him, getting huffy with me and saying he just can't say the right thing (his favourite line atm) Grrrrrr...... anyone want an extra baby?!
My mum was also annoying, suggesting I put him in his own room and not feed him when he wakes. I wanted some sympathy not ideas for a solution.

Aw trouble, I'm sure you'd get more sleep ignoring him not! And I think getting to sleep and being woken is worse so eat some !

Aw Trouble you have every right to have a moan, it's so exhausting not getting quality sleep especially when you're ill to boot! I'm in a similar place right now and believe me, I've done my fair share of moaning!
I've literally taught DP the right thing to say before now, the guy is far too practically minded for emotionally charged situations

Today, you are henceforth ordered to do diddly squat!