Barman! A pint of your finest Gaviscon with a ferrous sulphate chaser if you please! On the February 2012 Baby Bus.

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Right then my lovelies, this thread is going sloooooowly now we have our little secret facebook group

But we need to keep posting here for people who haven't joined our other group, so keep on going!

If anyone wants to join the facebook group, can they ask someone cleverer than me and they will set it up for you!

Old thread is here

DH came home for lunch. It takes 50 minutes round trip so he was only here for 10 minutes...

He had forgotten his secret Santa prezzie daft sod.

Anyway, he was talking about DC3

DC3?! I haven't had DC1 yet crazy fool! He was talking about age gaps and holidays and he would like 'at least 3' but I could have a break between dc2 and 3

I was I was of the '2 kids max' school of thought, he now says he wants 4 but at least 3. headdesk

I've told him I would reassess the situation but I get so anxious being pg I might not want more than 2. This is apparently ok.

Well I now don't know what to think lol. I'm not being 'told' how many kids to have by anyone but me. Humph

I've told him I would reassess the situation but I get so anxious being pg I might not want more than 2. This is apparently ok.

Is that because he thinks he might be able to wear you down after DC2??!! I think men forget what our bodies are actually doing.... including going hormonally mental!

I have always said I would "like" 2 or 3... I have ALWAYS said I will see how DC1 goes 1st though!

I just really like hot forrin holidays so to me 3+ kids is 'no more hols' and I would be

Am so shallow and tan

I do like kids though, we'll see how this goes lol. Stupid man

Hi All, Haven't posted for such a long time. Feeling very tired lately and my sleep patterns are all over the shop. Baby is growing well. No sign of heartburn but bad backache, especially on my left side which is where my little girl has set up camp. Interesting reading everyones feeds. Not long now ladies. How exciting.

You'll know when you're done having babies. I always wanted 4 kids and this time feel completely asthough this baby will complete my family. I don't think anyone could persuade me to do this again.

The thing is those lovely little alien looking newborns don't stay like that for long, so nature gives you mad urges to do it all over again, regardless of how it went the first time.

Argh! Our turn!!!

I took a bit of a drop today - fell up the steps from our kitchen while nattering on the phone. I managed to not only keep the conversation going, but also do an impressive kind of knee skid so not to bump my bump! I did skin my elbow on the skirting board, though. So clumsy. It woke baby up, who started bumping around straight away, so I know he or she's ok.

32+3

Yay our turn. Can't wait. I have def reached my limit on no of kids. To be fair I had to talk dh into dc3 but now he was more into dc4 than me. I guess you never know how you will feel.

Still a bit erm off my face on codine/paracetamol but at least I got through the day. Definately stocking up for labour!
Tip for those with toddlers. Need an hours rest, have a bath with your kids. I had one with ds1&2 this pm and apart from them pouring water on me I didn't move for an hour - bliss. 4 in the bath lol

Gutted to be missing our church carol concert this evening. I was supposed to be going to a friends for mince pies and drinks after and she makes fab cocktails inc non alcoholic ones but i'm just too ill :( missed it last yr because I had swine flu. Next yr i'm finishing my xmas shopping etc in sept just in case!

QueenFeeare you still feeling ropey? Is it the tummy bug or the nasty cold? I do hope you feel better in time for Christmas!

I'd quite like to have 3 but will see how we get on with this one first! Bit worried about the financial side of things and definitely will need a bigger house before we have any more - but that's not going to happen for a while. Trouble is that I'm 36 now so time is ticking on!

I am looking forward to it being our turn, can't wait to meet DD2 now :) Might go for DC3 at some point, but no plans as such. DH has told me he will be too old after DC3 to have any more. He is only 37 lol, but has two older kids too so this baby will be DC4 for him.

Glad your knees and elbow took the brunt of the fall Phlossie.

I am not looking forward to the icy, snowy weather I remember being pregnant in the winter of 2008, it was lethal walking around and I wasn't anywhere near as big as I am now. Might even buy some snow grips for my boots. We are going to have to be careful about falls.

Kayano, ah bless, wait until he has watched you in labour, we ladies tend to forget in the post-natal hormonal haze once we have our snuggly newborn, but our DH/DP's remember it all. He may re-think once the reality of sleepless nights kicks in

Sorry to hear you are feeling crap littlemonkeybix, I have found a good steam inhalation with a bit of vapour rub/olbas oil in the water does the trick especially before bed. Also put a cup of water/wet towel on your radiator to increase humidity at night helps. Saline nasal spray also great for clearing sinuses.

Good news babycarmen :)

hermione glad you are getting physio referral, I had rsi before and that was bad enough.

Have been out today with my mum who was visiting, she brought DD's Christmas pressie that we had paid for months ago up from Dorset. A lovely wooden kitchen from Little Tikes, it has everything a fridge, a washing machine and a kitchen sink!

I am really looking forward to putting it up for DD, she will love it, but it looks complicated. Hopefully me and DH can put our heads together and get it up in time for Christmas.

Got my arm jabbed by phlebotomist today for 28 week bloods, only two weeks late, but thought it best not to take 'flu with me to the ante-natal clinic at the hospital so held off until I felt completely better.

Hope everyone else who is/was feeling ill is on the mend in time for Christmas x

30+2

Hi all

zhen i think we're in for a warmer, more "normal" winter than the last 3 so we should be ok. I was pg ith DD in the snow of winter 09/10 and am REALLY glad not to have to do that again!! sliding not good for pelvises.

Read that article on the mum spared a miscarriage and am that someone thinks that's a waste of resources! Surely on that basis we shouldn't bother treating any medical problem, it would be much cheaper if we just let people fester and die. I think it's AMAZING that they can save a baby that way!!

Had our fake xmas dinner tonight for our bible study group, including one zimbabwean and one nigerian to demonstrate an authentic english christmas dinner. Have been on feet all day cooking and feet are now ACHING. this is my least favourite bit of pregnancy, I had forgotten!! Apart from that dinner was YUM though, especially delia smiths 18th century chestnut stuffing, in case anyone needs a recipe at this late stage!! It's on her website!!

I'm hoping for more babies. We have 4 fairly dubious "quality" embryos frozen, so we'll see. Don't want to have full IVF again though. Me and a friend with a 2 year gap (which ours will be) both agreed today that a 3rd baby will have a BIGGER GAP!!! It's hard being 8 months pg with a 2 year old toddler!!

Right, to sleep, perchance to dream. Or something...

34+1 (when do we start counting down?!)

30+4 here. That's 10 weeks to go. That's ages - 2 whole months. There is no need for me to panic yet...

Is there?

I don't really do babies. But I do want a family, and as kids don't come ready to go at around 10 years old, I need to start somewhere. It's just starting to seem very real now.

I think I'd like more than one.. I'm an only child, and I was more than happy with that. It's only as I've become an adult that I think I'd like a brother or sister. But I'll need to see how I get on with this one first....

DP got cobby with me last night... wait for it... because i was snoring!!! I had to stifle a giggle! He's like a motor boat most nights and he GAVE ME THIS COLD... I think he was going to go downstairs but the extra sleeping gear is in the wash. So he was stuck with me.

he did say this morning that i didn't snore again though... i am still chuckling at his stroppy temper tantrum though!

Thanks for advice zhen... I have a saline nose douche ... just need to drag my arse out of bed to fetch it!

29+3 with NOTHING SORTED!!!

Think the subconscious anxiety has returned.

I sleepwalk/ talk.
Last night I woke up hysterical, crying sobbing, unable to calm down. Must have been doing it for a while in my sleep because I was in the throws of panic when I woke up!

I had a needle in my back! And could not move or lie back down I was frozen stiff as a board but hysterical. DH sort of woke up but I couldn't really get him awake as I couldn't speak as I was too scared .

Anyway he sort of roused and actually had to act out removing the needle
From my back. He turned straight back over and went back to sleep and has no recollection this morning. Sleep acting !

Anyway it was 30 mins before I calmed down enough to sleep again.

Strange thing was that in the last week I have been more chilled
Out than ever so it was quite strange. I don't remember even thinking about epidurals or needles yesterday but my dream and panic were so real it was awful

Am swinging between thinking it's fine, all under control, to OMG, what have I done! Not helped by seeing new consultant who seemed very keen on an ELCS when midwife/other consultant/specialist all agreed VB is best in my circumstances. She also said recovery time from CS and VB isn't very different .

Am really quite uncomfortable now, pelvic pain, out of breath etc. Off to GP today and Physio tomorrow!

32 + 0!

Zhen - the prospect of snow was the perfect excuse to buy some lovely new boots - they're waterproof, sheepskin lined and have brilliant grip... problem is I have trouble bending over my bump to get them on!

There's 19 1/2 months between DS and DD.... and 4 1/2 years between DD and DC3! It is much, much easier being pregnant with older children who can do their own seatbelts up and don't need carrying. Plus my gorgeous little DD loves babies and is the most helpful, sweet, lovely, sensible 4 yo you'd ever meet. She's going on 40!

Rollersara - which would you feel most comfortable with? I'd have said recovery from a VB is easier... I guess it depends on how long you labour and whether you need any intervention. I suppose the good thing with ELCS is that you avoid the possibility of labouring for hours and then having a EMCS, which would be a bit of a double-whammy recovery-wise.

My at the front placenta is annoying me. I just don't feel this baby in the same way as my other two, and it freaks me out. I do feel it - it's squiggling at the moment, and I have to remember not to compare it to the other two.

32+4

waves to everyone, including new joiners!

OMG people talking about more babies, while the are pg? are you insane? suppose it's easy for the OH's to say what they would like to have, but they don't have to go through it!! thankfully me and DH have agreed that this is baby will definitely complete our family, two children are def enough for me us thanks and especially over a 6 year age gap between them!

Started my maternity leave this week, was my last day on Tuesday, I didn't start my mat leave till 36wks with ds1, and would of worked till later this time round too, but had ran out of annual hol, and it just seemed easier to coincide my mat leave with ds breaking up from school then i don't have to organize childcare, plus the added stresses of xmas. Was a relief to finish work though. Has been an awkward 33 weeks at work i tell you! There's a girl i work with who had IVF then miscarried at 11wks, 3 wks before i found out i was pg. We work in a tiny room together, and haven't had the best of relationships if i'm honest. Telling her i was pg was awful after what had happened to her. I was warned not to mention my pg for fear of upsetting her. Then when i had my 12wk scan, i asked my boss what i should do i.e. regarding showing people my scan pic and he said just ask her if she wants to see it (i was scared of excluding her by not showing it to her IYSWIM) when i asked if she wanted to see it, she said no and that the last time she went for a scan she was told her baby was dead, so no she didn't want to see it. That was that after that, i have had to go to work and never mention my pg in front of her at all. So on my last day, boss gave me a hug and said take care, and i said to her, all the best, have a good xmas, her reply "and you" that was it! I really don't know what to do when i have had the baby, do i go in with it? and about going back to work after, feel like i'm a criminal of some sort for having a healthy pregnancy and being able to bear a child

Anyway, i am actually, apart from the heartburn, quite enjoying this pg now, and remember that when i was this far gone with ds1 was utterly fed up by now, so i am just enjoying it while it lasts! Xmas prezzies all got, a few rellies to visit this week, a small food shop on fri, and feet up to enjoy xmas! Normally dashing round like a headless chicken this time of year, but decided not to this year, for the people i haven't seen yet, i have messaged them to tell them, i will see them at some point before ds goes back to school.

^^gosh this is turning into quite a lengthy post, apologies!

scan next thurs, to see if placenta has moved up yet, finger's x'd it has.

33wks+2

and 3 sleeps till xmas!!

BTW hermionejgranger, got your link from last thread and have fb friended you, could you add me to the group pretty please? will have more time for computer now that mat leave has started

hippysair - it's not your fault you've had a healthy pregnancy, and it sounds like you're being sensitive about it. A friend of mine had exactly the same problem with a colleague, but she luckily did have a baby in the end, and it was only then that things got better. I think that when you go back you should just carry on being aware of not going on about it, and accept that she's still going to feel crap about it - and keep your fingers crossed that it works out for her.

Just marking my place!..Not been on here much lately, guilty of Facebook though!..

Can't believe how close we all are to meeting our babies now!..

Tired, fed up of heart burn....but looking forward to Christmas!..Nearly there now!..3 sleeps! My dh is off for 10 whole days & he is even going to switch his work phone off for 7 of them! (on call for the other 3)....total chill out im hoping before the chaos of 3 children starts very soon!..

Hope everybody has a lovely Christmas if I dont come back on here before!..xx

phlossie, I don't know, I'd always expected I'd need a c-section (I have mobility problems and use a wheelchair), but was told it wouldn't be a good idea as I have spasms in my stomach muscles that would make recovery longer and more painful. So was mentally prepared for a VB, possibly induced, but now this seems to be a bad idea too.

We can't start counting down, too depressing when we are in minus figures!

Hippy that sounds really hard. Tbh I would go in with the baby, sadly bad things happen to people and coming to realise this is part of getting on with your life. My mum was told she couldnt have kids and she decided after 7 yrs to accept this. She said it was very hard at 1st, but it actually helped her in the long run being with her friends kids. Miraculously, after moving on with her life along came my brother x

We appear to be finally bug free! So relieved its been so long since we had a normal house. I am sick of changing beds.

Now just have to do 2 weeks of xmas prep in erm 2 days, could be interesting!

hippysair I have added you :)
So sorry you've had such a tricky atmosphere at work. I'd second what phlossie and QueenFee said though - it's not necessarily the way your colleague had envisaged her life turning out - but that is not for you to worry about or to tiptoe around. If everyone else at work is excited for you and you want to take your baby in then I'd say go ahead - might consider dropping her a line to tell her you're planning on doing so, but more as a "this is a courtesy in case you want to be somewhere else" than a "would this be ok with you" type of thing. As QueenFee says, coming to terms with it is part of moving on and I have a similar story about a cousin who tried for ages with no success with IVF, resigned herself to being the cool auntie, and then conceived very quickly - now has 2 beautiful girls.

Hope all the germy people are feeling better - I have woken up this morning and will mostly be illing today. Doesn't feel all that bad though so might be just drinking copious amounts of hot squash to soothe my throat and using my parenting gaffer tape to attach a bottle of olbas oil beneath my right nostril.

I just nearly burst into tears in Asda. It's always bloody asda! My legs and ladybits are in agony.! It is SO bad today

Aw kayano. Warm bath and a lie down. Just get the basics and then go back Tuesday when they open again.

Well tonight can't be any worse than last night!

Dd2 had a friend sleep over for the night - DD is 11 and friend is 12 and they have gone through school together. Told them they coukdntnsleep downstairs as hubby at work today and lounge asunder our bedroom somdidnt want disturbing.

Commotion downstairs at 115 am. DD comes into our room and says her firmed been sick everywhere and she can't move her to get her to the downstairs loo. Tell her to start and clean it up. Go down and it's like something off a movie there is so much puke flying about! Told her to move herself out of my lounge and into loo to which she just lay in a heap and moaned I can't. Had to get DH up as I really really don't do proper sick and I was heaving, he got up went in lounge, came out for mop bucket and promptly went arse over tit. He isn't small - over 25 stone and 6'2!! I rang child's mum and said I her daughter really ill and she said oh I don't know what tondo. DD came in and said she being sick again so i told other um I was fetching her - she lives about 1/2 mile away but doesn't drive.

We spent next 3 hours getting daughter to a stage where she could sit up without throwing up, stripped sofa covers (which they had made into beds on the floor so were covered!) washed 6 towels, two sets of bedding, threw out 4 pillows and two cushions and bungee them in car and took them home. Child was sick up till about 4 pm this afternoon and then right as hops now!

DH was up at 530am to go to work. He seems ok and not grumpy. We slept till nearly ten then got up and have had a running about day today fetching turkey, photos imhave had framed for bro and sisnin law and horse bedding.

Had planned on sittingndown when tea was on but sat in kitchen with a bottle of bleach doing draw fronts and radiator! Nesting is going mad and sat in the bath kidsnhad run for me thinking I need to sort out the grime on the skirting boards! DD2 says I have gone into OCD overdrive.

Have hands like an old woman now from all the bleach but I love the smell.

Am really in a good mood tonight and can't wait to have this little man.

Have done Christmas shopping - it was dead in our local morrisons last night! We won't open any beer or chocs till after tea on Christmas eve - bit of a tradition in our house as it's not really Christmas till then.