January 2012 - Thread 3

[ParsleyLion1]

And we're back......

spagbol hope you're feeling better soon. Apparently you're 20 times more likely to get food poisoning in pregnancy compared to normal. And just everything in general as pregnancy dampens down the immune system. Good luck with the soup.

Livened I agree with addicted in that they grow out of the Moses baskets really quickly and they don't seem to stay as settled as in a cot/crib. For DD we used a Moses basket downstairs for day time naps until she started getting too alert to be downstairs, and we used the cot from day 1 in our room until she was 6 months and then moved cot and DD into her own room.

Anti-D is considered very safe as it is radiated etc more than normal blood transfusions. Like oeisha said it rarely affects first pregnancy but it just depends as there are opportunities for babies blood to cross into your blood. If this happens and your body develops antibodies to your babies blood it can cause some problems in the first pregnancy too. Normally this is mild like being small for dates or jaundice. In future pregnancies it can cause serious problems like heart failure and can lead to recurrent late miscarriages/stillbirths. This is because your antibodies attack the babies blood cells. The links given by oeisha are really good. Your MW should have given you info leaflets too. Or you can make an appointment to discuss it over with your GP. HTH.

Ghost you have hyper mobility? Is it mainly in your hips? I have mainly hip and knee problems, is this your first baby? (my memory is rubbish) if not, have you had any problems with an epidural? I was allowed it on the day by a lovley anisitisist but up untill then they weren't going to let me.

They know about the hms this time but arent very clued up on it so was wondering (as I wanted an epi again) Should I clue them in, is it really dangerous or just no say anything and accept the risk?

www.hypermobility.org/pregnancy.php for addicted

hi, i'm rhesus negative two on my second baby. Don't worry about the injections. Mine were all in my arm and were not put in slowly so they were uncomfortable but not painful. No worse afterwards than any other injection/needle.
I think where people have suffered it is because it was done slowly or not in their arm.... but not havng suffered I cannot comment on that.
Be aware of any knocks to bump. Anything that could cause bleeding and you need the Anti-D

HTH

addicted, yes, hips mostly but knees as well. Not a huge problem for me after a few years of physio and pilates, but still something I need to be aware of. It makes yoga quite easy though! I need to be more careful than ever that I don't blithely think 'oh, I appear to be quite bendy today, let's just push a bit further into this posture...'

Thanks for the link choca, I will check it out.

This is my first pregnancy so I've no experience and hadn't really thought about the problems with epidural (presumably in case you can't feel how far you are stretching your hips?); epidural is not plan A for me but will look into it more.

Thanks for everyone's replies - it's my first baby so really a bit daunted by it all! Your comments have put my mind at ease.

Thanks also for the feedback on cribs/cots vs moses baskets. its a mine field out there for keen mums isn't it... i think i'll ditch the moses basket idea altogether and look at a crib or at least a small cot for our room from birth up to hopefully about 6 months. I'm planning to use my pushchair cot attachment as a bed for the daytime as its approved as safe for night time sleeping, so im thinking it should be fine for daytime naps.

Right - i'm off to read that Anti-D link...

x

Oh My God. I think all the movement yesterday was Baby Chick having a growth spurt. I look like I've swallowed a watermelon this morning

omg that website is fascinating! I've only had a diagnosis of hypermobility from my physio, not a GP, which is why I've never really looked into it. According to the website I have a Beighton score of at least 5 (knees and elbows don't go back though). And it turns out that my physio has been recommending most of the daily exercise anyway. In any case, I'm so glad that I don't have it severely; I've had enough injuries over the last few years with only mild symptoms.

exactly ghost i wasnt allowed it because if my hips were pushed too far or dislocated i could end up damaging them quite badly. but the anisitist came and spoke to me and said she was happy to go ahead as long as i was happy and trusted the mw's she said that they are hardly likley to do anything stupid so it would be ok. there is just so much conflicting info, i think i may just keep quiet about it this time. (it was only because i questioned wether i would be allowed an epi that they went and did research and said no)

giraffe

I have on my new topshop maternity dress today (quite chuffed with it). Unlike all my loose clothing, I most definitely look pg in this dress. Better than looking like I've been eating too many pies though

ghost are you actually me? i got diagnosed at 19 by a physo and have never really bothered researching it much as they said no to worry, did some excercises with me and told me what to expect and do when the worst happens (dislocation) so i dont have to go to hospital every time.

livened I've been following the cribs/cots vs moses baskets info with interest too. A lot of people have said that the moses baskets don't last very long. I'm a bit confused about what to do too! I am in possession of a Stokke Sleepi (second hand) which is a cot that will do from birth to around 3 years or even longer with the junior adaptor bits. However, I also really wanted something that attaches to the bed (a co-sleeper/bedside crib, I think) but wondered if that was excessive. Plus, if I only have those two, what do I do in the daytime when we're downstairs?

Argh!

addicted could be! I even saw a surgeon and had MRIs for my hip problems, but he just ascertained that I didn't have microfractures and sent me on my way - even when I asked for a physio referral. As it is I've spent £100s (£1000s possibly) on private, but excellent, physio in the last few years. I can get physio with my private healthcare through work but unfortunately the only good physio I can get to regularly isn't registered with BUPA, so there's not much point.

I think the hypermobility is affecting my ankles now too - I spontaneously went over on my ankle during a match earlier this year and partially tore every one of my ligaments and fractured the talus bone. It's five months on now and the ankle still swells randomly, though thankfully the calf muscle is back to being the same size as my other leg!

Can't wait until I'm all giant and clumsy in late pregnancy

Hi all - thanks for lovely welcome

Just to add my view on the crib / moses basket debate - with my other two I had both and would agree that the moses basket doesn't last very long if you have 'long' babies as I did but it is handy to have downstairs as it's v. portable and somewhere to put baby down for a bit. I have had friends who used their buggy with the carry-cot instead for this purpose for short periods during the day.

I had the crib upstairs next to our bed as it is a) small enough to fit and b)we bought a cot bed rather than a cot and a new-born in a cot-bed looks so lost although if you put them at the foot end it's probably OK! I also found the rocking action of a crib is handy for the one arm out of the bed rock back to sleep in the middle of the night in the early days when you may be dog-tired from getting up to do feeds. I've never been one for having them in the bed as I find I can't sleep so it's a nice solution and you can see & touch them through the bars, although a 'co-sleeper' sounds nice!!

Don't know what I will do this time as I have 'lent' both to friends and no idea if I'm going to get them back as it was a while ago and they've probably assumed I won't be needing them again!

ghost you really made me laugh with your too many pies comment - I've just been through that stage (eurghh) and you know people are wondering whether to ask if you are pg or whether you might just be looking a bit porkier than usual - it's such a relief to have a proper 'bump' and be able to wear tighter fitting tops to stop the confusion!!

biddy I was very pleased when acquaintances started asking last week if I was 'y'know [makes bump gestures]' - no-one dares ask directly! Thankfully it seems to be obvious enough now - will be glad to get another month or so in and be showing properly.

Thanks for the hint on cribs etc - and maybe if I have a little rocker chair thingy and the pram downstairs then that will be enough. I am trying to be restrained and buy the few key essentials; it's not like we can't buy things after the little one is born! Though, if it's like last January, who knows if we'll be able to get out to any of the decent baby shops. The only thing we seem to have in Oxford is a Babies 'R' Us - I went at the weekend and for the most part it was full of tat. They only had one Moses basket out of many in which the hood actually stood up independently and wasn't falling apart in the shop. Our nearest John Lewis is quite far down the M40 and there is, I hear, babyworld near Wallingford which is supposed to be quite good.

Hi everyone,

Gosh - you've been busy since Friday! Hope everyone's well, or recovering!
Just to add my crib/Moses thoughts - we had both, and the Moses was handy for the first few weeks in the living room, but we managed to squeeze DD into the crib until she was about 7 months (she's quite little!) so it was well worth it. However, we had the Anna from John Lewis, which can rock or be static, but it only had a pin holding it in place, so if she wriggled a lot, it would detach and she'd end up rolling to one side in a slightly alarming manner with her face stuck to the bars! I'd probably either get a totally static one, or one which rocks from the base in retrospect!

Interested to read about the hypermobility - apparently I have one hypermobile hip, but apart from the odd bit of clicking out of place, it's never been too bad. I hadn't really thought about it in relation to giving birth! I was on all fours last time, so that seemed to solve the problem.

HI you lot, back from hols now (briefly, before taking my girls on a single-handed jaunt across Europe from next Monday - eek!)
After spending the whole week worrying about the various ways in which I'd undoubtedly done ZippyRoo harm because I wasn't feeling any movements yet (high altitude, heat, lifting heavy shopping), I was trying to negotiate a mega-complicated motorway intersection and find my way to a campsite in Vienna at 10.30pm on Fri night after 5 hrs driving and WHUMP! two socking great kicks! SO all is well here
So glad I don't have any of these pram/cot/Moses basket dilemmas (mainly cos I haven't got the cash to indulge them anyway). With DD1 the Moses basket lasted 6 weeks (born a hefty 4.5kg!) so it is now the toy basket and we have a much-exploited cot/bed thing which will Have To Do.
Must go pick DDs up from park and make lunch.

Permission to complain?!

1. surely it can't be normal to pee five times in a single night? I'm going to drink all morning and then ban liquids in the evenings from now on...

2. sorry if this is TMI, but is anyone else getting horrendously sore nipples (or actually nipple - always the right for some reason!) It seems to be related to being cold, i.e. lack of blood circulating in - ahem - extremities. Since it's winter here that is an ongoing problem. Only reliable solutions are to get into the bath or into the car with all the windows shut and the heater running at full blast. Not sure how this is going to work out when I'm attempting to breastfeed, but at least that'll be in the middle of summer :)

ghost - Babyworld is round the corner from me and is fab for buggies/prams etc - let me know if you're coming, cos it's literally 3 mins away.

As for cots vs Moses basket - Dh and I measured everywhere we could think and have come to the conclusion that as soon as fishface needs a cot rather than the basket, it'll have to move to its own room :-( There is really nowhere for a cot to fit except in the small single room/storage room.

Today I washed all the muslins, moses basket sheets and 0-3 months clothing we had. It wasn't that much - I really need to stock up on newborn stuff! It was so cute watching all the teeny tiny things blowing on the line. I know it's a bit premature, but it made sense to wash them now while the weather was good and they could dry quickly rather than wait till I'm enormous and the weather is bad.

bah. builders are making so much noise and dust putting a great big kitchen extension onto the landlord's house. I feel like there's no privacy here anywhere I want my own house. Damn this stoopid economy.

capy I had that - but only when I was wearing a wet suit in the sea and trying to board! Had to get out after a while as it was a little bit like being stabbed in the nipple. Repeatedly.

cakes - great to know and maybe I could pop in for cake, non? I washed all the sheets which came with the crib we bought, but I think my PFB-ness extends far enough that I will want to buy new sheets and keep these in case of late night baby-fluid based emergencies. Ditto the mattress protector, and of course I need to buy a new mattress (didn't think of that while I was cooing over the cuteness of the oval shaped crib - now need oval shaped mattress!). I also dettol-ed the hell out of the woodwork with the theory that the dettol will have worn off by January but I'd rather know that there's no grime/germs on it in the meantime. That's it though - am deeply unsentimental and have not yet purchased teeny tiny clothes or soft toys or anything. Am hard, I am [nods].*

cakes, you sound to have done really well with baby clothes etc - perhaps I need to get myself to a bumps and babies class too!

*until I have the 20 week scan next week (eee!) and will probably turn into a weeping, tiny-clothes buying lump of a woman.

Help guys, ive had contact with shingles, been for the blood test today will baby be ok?

im so not having a good pregnancy at all.

Hi mummyzoe have you ever had chickenpox? Assume you haven't or aren't sure if you've had the blood test. So sorry - must be very stressful but will keep fingers crossed that all is well & sure someone will be along who can offer better advice.

ive had chickenpoxs but docs when i saw them were like get a blood test done now as i have a few syptoms such as pain down one side of my face and a temprature. hope baby is ok

Hi Mummyzoe - it's the right thing to get tested but you should 't worry if you've had chickenpox already. I had a similar thing so have read up on pregnancy and chickenpox a bit - even if you do develop symptoms, it only marginally increases any risks. It's not a certain indicator of problems, so look after yourself and try not to worry too much!

shouldn't worry I mean! Damn phone...