MC/D&C VETERANS PLEASE HELP EXPATINSCOTLAND! *LONG*

[expatinscotland]

K, was supposedly 8 weeks along.

Was referred to Early Pregnancy Unit at Inverclyde Royal Hospital for scan as had bad D&V bug on Monday and then spotting.

Got scan.

There's a sac but nothing in it.

This does not surprise me and tbh I am relieved because were not in a good position to have a third child.

BUT, was NEVER told, 'It's a blighted ovum'.

I had told them I came in from a rural area.

In fact, folks, I left here at 6.45AM and walked back in my front door at 12.30.

Instead, they tell me to come back on Monday for another scan 'to make sure there are no changes.'

Then I ask them about what if there are no changes?

They tell me I can have a D&C there.

I ask about anaesthetics.

They say it's under GA.

I tell them I cannot have GA because I have genetic hyperthermia - a condition which causes my core body temp to shoot up sky high and which nearly killed me in an operating threatre 11 years ago.

Hence, I have had the following: three knee surgeries including a major ligament replacement, three impacted wisdom teeth extractions, a colposcopy, a loop electroexision procedure on my cervix and a forceps delivery all under local or regional anaesthetics.

So they tell me that I'll have to go to the Royal Alexandria Hospital at Paisley for the D&C and they'll speak to the anaesthetist.

No mention of getting hold of the tablets that help you to expel an unviable pregnancy at home.

SOOOOOO, I'm supposed to go in there Monday morning and sit in a crowded waiting room full of pregnant women drinking water to fill up my bladder for them to tell me - wait, they never fing told me 'blighted ovum' - I need a D&C.

Then go to Paisley - a further 20 miles away - for a consultant to see me.

Then go BACK to Paisley for a D&C, because I can tell you right now I will gladly sit on this blighted ovum from now until the world ends before I let that consultant at Inverclyde touch me again, OR wait for a D&C in a waiting room of an antenatal unit and recover from a miscarriage whilst hearing newborn babies cry.

Has anyone been in this situation?

And if I have other options besides D&C or D&C under GA, which I would never have in a shithole like Inverclyde anyway because I'd for sure die under their incompetence.

We are furious at NHS Argyll for making an utter pisstake of maternity services for an entire, massive region of the country.

To the point where DH is looking to transfer again - to Perthsire.

I'm so sorry expat. I also had to have miscarriage scans in the middle of lots of happy pregnant women, followed by tests on the gynae ward full of teenagers having terminations. Not a very happy experience

So sorry to hear you are having to deal with all of this Expat. Take care of yourself.

Hope your GP sorts out some decent care for you.

thanks, all.

right now i'm torn between feelings of relief and being a bit angry at how this is being handled - although have had a nice pizza and glass of wine.

i know it's not fair to compare this experience with my two threatened miscarriages in edinburgh (with the DDs), but then i think, why not? why should these women not receive the same standard of professionalism and care that women in the Lothians might get?

i had my missed miscarriage in the US, but again, the level of care was comparable to what i received in Edinburgh.

i guess i'll discuss it with the GP tomorrow.

i hate to be such a bother to him, it's not his fault they cut 'services' here to rock bottom. it's not just foolish, but has proven dangerous as well in the past - at least to that baby in gourock.

i'm leaning towards BUPA at Murrayfield.

i just want this OVER without having to go back and forth over such a distance.

Expat, I'm so sorry to read your news.

I needed a D and C folowing my MC. They put me in a private room, so as to avoid being in with all the pregnant mothers. Can you ask them if they would do the same for you, to reduce your understandable stress and upset?

Why can't they do it under an epidural and sedation?

expat just wanted to say so sorry to hear your news

Expat - I have no experience of any of this but wanted to say sorry - what a absolute nightmare time for you.

Expat, I'm really sorry.

I can't understand why they won't take the less risky option of doing the D&C under a local rather than general. I'm sure most hospitals wouldn't even consider offering a GA.

if they won't do it under local at Paisley, then i can't have it at all or i'll need to go private.

apparently the reaction i had under GA is very rare, although my maternal grandmother had it. but it tends to put an anaesthetist on alert, for good reason.

if they try to fob me off and say, 'this type of GA won't affect you like this' then i'll either go private or let nature take its course if it takes till Doomsday, because now i have two little kids.

i came that close to buying the farm in that theatre that i'm NOT willing to take that risk especially when i know it is not necessary to have GA for a D&C procedure for this reason - i have already had this.

i don't know if anyone else in my family had it, it's possible they did and never found out because they never had GA.

Just stumbled across this thread and wanted to say sorry you're having such a cr*p time Xpat. Hope your GP can help to get things sorted the way you want tomorrow.

Oh bollocks Expat, how awful for you. I thought medical care was supposed to be better in Scotland?!

Well, I can vouch for Edinburgh

Expat if they say they can't do it in Paisley ask if they can do it at the Southern General, it is another 10 minutes up the M8 from the RAH.

im sorry your going through this expat xxx

Oh expat, I have no advice re your situation but just wanted to add my sympathies. I read what a conflict of emotions this pg was for you. To go through all that and now this...

Expat - I don't see why you would have to have GA. I know that it is possible to have a termination under local anaesthetic and it is a similar procedure to that of a D & C. You should at least be able to have a choice of how the procedure is done surely?

I'm so sorry that you are having to go through this. You should be getting all the help and support that you need from these 'professionals'. Making you run around like a blue-arsed fly. Ridiculous.

Look after yourelf the best you can.

so crappy. sorry expat

Expat, I am so sorry to hear what you are going through. Several years ago I went through something similar and had to have several scans while out in the waiting room were happily pg women all trying to avoid looking at my tear stained face. Esp didn't help that sonographer didn't bother to read notes first so was happy and chatty, how are you, how's the pg etc while I burst into tears.

I eventually had the option of D&C under general or local so I do not see why you cannot have the choice.

my jaw had dropped to the floor!...blimey!! so sorry to hear

all the consultant told me was 'i'll speak to an anaesthetist at paisley.'

no, i don't think so, because i do not trust a person who cannot even be bothered to scan my entire uterus, fallopian tubes and ovaries with my life, whose staff is dismissive of my concerns for my health and safety as if i am a housepet, who completely disregards my distress at having to make repeated lengthy visits for apparently no purpose - especially given my well-documented and lengthy history of depression.

they had all access to my records. my GP wasted his time putting together my notes.

if i cannot personally speak to any aneasthetist who will be coming into contact with me in an elective circumstance about a life-threatening condition i have than he/she will not be performing medicine on me.

and i will not have GA for any procedure which can be safely performed otherwise because that is the lazy, half-arsed procedure or policy and you can't be arsed to do your job.

i would not take a sick hamster in this place, i'm telling you.

Oh expat, what a horrible time you're having, I'm so sorry to hear it. Thank goodness at least you have a good GP. I think you should def do the BUPA option if possible. You won't get any of this crap with them.

i think i'm going to go BUPA. i shouldn't have to argue the toss about this.

Hey Expat, can't be any use, but thinking of you, and really sorry for you x

no experience to share. Really sympathise. Been reading your previous posts. Hope all goes well and is over soon.
xxx

Expat - I can see you're really angry, but isn't there the slightest chance you're less far along than you thought? I imagine that's why the hospital was reluctant to diagnose a blighted ovum straight away. If you were five weeks you would only see a sac, and then a re-scan a week later might show a HB.

(Apologies if you're totally sure of your dates!)