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DH committed suicide, body found 10 days later part 2

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MamaTeeTee · 03/02/2016 09:12

The support I had on the last thread was amazing so thought Id continue it.

For anyone catching up, my DH died between christmas and new year. He had been struggling with depression and a cocaine and steroid addiction. His behaviour in the last 6 months got totally out of control. He was drink driving, disappearing for days, sneaking out in the middle of the night. We hAd two weeks apart at the beginning of December during which time he lived with a friend. He insisted he was clean during these 2 weeks but I later found out he wasn't. He moved back home for 2 weeks but christmas was a disaster and he told me on xmas eve (whilst he was drunk and high) that I was his trigger that made him do these silly things and he wanted to leave.
He went to stay with his mum on December 28th although we were still very much a family. He came to the family home for tea after work, we took the kids out togetehr, then he went to sleep at his mums. I thought I was giving him family life without the pressure.
On Tuesday 29th December I picked DH up after work and we went home and played playdoh with the kids for an hour. I took him to the shops to get a couple of bits he needed and then dropped him to his mums as me and DC were going to my dads for an hour. I called DH on my way home to see if he wanted to see the kids before they went to bed but he said he was busy. He came to the house at 10pm as I had made his food for work for the following day and we had a cuddle on the sofa. At 10.30pm when he was back at his mums he text me "is this the way it's going to be from now on?" And I replied "I think so, until you sort yourself out". The texts went on and he explained that he was sorry for putting us through this and how much he loved me. I said I loved him too but I couldn't understand how we had got here and that he seemed to be so much happier being away from us. He text me at 11pm saying "I love you, I love my parents and I love our babies but you're all better off without me xxxxxxxx". And that was the last anyone heard from him.
He has sent me that same text I don't know how many times over the years. I usually get a text half an hour later saying "I'm being a tit, ignore me".
I didn't get another text this time. I text him back a few times but thought he was playing games with me so I went to sleep.
I called him in the morning at 8.15am but there was no answer. I thought he was in work so I tried again at 10.15 when he goes on break. It went straight to answer phone. I still hadn't heard from him at 5pm and I was a little worried but assumed he was on a bender. At 11pm the police knocked the door to say his van had been found in the sea.
It took 10 days to recover my beautiful husband's body.
He left behind me and our 2 babies (4&5). I feel as though the world has come crashing down on us. Dd (5) misses him terribly and is struggling massively. She is terrified that I am going to die and her behaviour is just awful at the moment. DS (4) is absolutely fine. He talks about his daddy very matter of factly.

To top off an already horrific situation, there is a rumour going around that ive been having an affair with DHs best friend for months. My MiL quite evidently blames me for DHs death. And i now have to deal with the awful situation of getting probate sorted so I can sell our house. And then there's the inquest to deal with.
It's all so so shit.

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Borninthe60s · 05/02/2016 23:12

So pleased you are coming here to offload and keep us updated. I think about you and your DC a lot. Take every day slowly and sod paying the mortgage. It's not yours to pay. Xx

FlatOnTheHill · 05/02/2016 23:54

Thinking of you. Thanks

MumOnTheRunCatchingUp · 06/02/2016 11:49

How are you doing? Thinking of you. Just back from parkrun and I know you've said you also run. Hope you get a chance to get one in, really does help a bit

MamaTeeTee · 06/02/2016 17:04

Fuck this hurts so much.
I'm ok though. I WILL get us through this.
DD is struggling. I'm going to speak to the doctor whilst she's in school tomorrow. She's very angry with God at the moment for taking her daddy. She doesn't understand why it was her daddy who had to die. And how the fuck do I answer that?!
I think she knows more than we thought. DS said yesterday "daddy didn't want to die did he?" And I said "no daddy wouldn't want to leave the three of us" and DD said "but how do you know? Maybe daddy wanted to go to heaven?".
Fuck fuck fuck. Maybe ive tried protecting her from too much. But I know he didn't want to die. Like fuck would he want to leave the gang. There's 4 of us in our gang and always will be.
I'm going to look into using some of his ashes to be tattooed on me. We were both big fans of tattoos and we were planning both our next pieces for the new year.

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MumOnTheRunCatchingUp · 06/02/2016 20:35

How do you tattoo ashes on? Sounds like it might be a comfort for you

MamaTeeTee · 06/02/2016 21:32

They put the ashes inside the ink somehow. It would definitely be a comfort to me to know part of him is always with me.
Ive had a lush evening with the kids tonight. We've watched 3 disney films in my bed and now they're both nice and cosy in their own beds. I have a bootcamp class in the morning and then we are going to feed the ducks somewhere and will take my nephew with us too. I used to spend a lot of time with my nephew but I haven't really since all of this so that will be another bit of normality for us.

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MissyMaker · 06/02/2016 21:42

Mama, I am truly sorry to read this. You are going through absolute hell. So sad that some people don't seem to think that this is enough for you, so heap even more crap on to you.

Please have a look at WAY Widowed & Young - a support group for people who have lost a partner at a young age (under 50). There is something incredibly powerful being in a group of people who just 'get it'. There's an off shoot group for people who have lost a partner through suicide too. www.widowedandyoung.org.uk/

Thinking of you and your little ones at this awful time Flowers xxx

iknowimcoming · 07/02/2016 18:21

Mama, might not be your thing but I have a pretty silver locket which contains some of my fathers ashes which I find very comforting to have, I know some people would find it odd, but it doesn't look 'different' to a normal necklace if you know what I mean. There are lots of different things like that available like ashes in glass which might be a nice idea for you or your dc? I googled cremation jewellery and found mine there. Keep on keeping on, you are doing great x

maketheworldgoaway · 07/02/2016 18:58

Hi OP. I'm a MH professional who has also experienced suicidal depression.

My views are : no - one kills themselves because of the actions of another unless it's an extreme situation such as someone being held captive by another.

So the people thinking in grief that there is someone to blame are wrong.

If you are in mental distress and feel like you've always been there and always will be (common depressive thinking) then it really doesn't matter if you have a great job and family that love and need you.

Every day Is painful and no-one gives a shit if you have no family/friends. If you do -you're just a cunt (your view of yourself ) because you have people that love you and that reinforces your view that you're a cunt because you're so lucky to have so many things that other people would give their right arm for. You miserable, self - absorbed privileged cunt. So in the end the people who love you would be better off without your entitled depressive presence. You're holding everyone back with your selfishness.

Or (this is what I thought). I am loved but if the people who love me REALLY do then they wouldn't want me to live in this pain. So they'll understand that I couldn't live anymore.

Suicide leaves huge pain, anger and confusion. And it always will.

I am so sorry you're living this OP. I've worked with many families like yours and it is a case of a day at a time. Flowers

AcrossthePond55 · 07/02/2016 19:34

Hey Mama. I'm glad you're all taking a well deserved break.

As far as the 'affair' rumours, ignore. MiL has to have a reason for her son's death that absolves him and her from any blame. Let it be a case of 'them that know don't care, and them that care don't know'.

As far as selling and moving, have you considered moving out of the general area? I know it would be hard but in the long run it may be better to be away from negative people and influences.

MamaTeeTee · 07/02/2016 21:07

Today a friend of DH has told me that MIL has put a caveat on the probate. I haven't applied for it yet (seeing solicitor on Tuesday) so I suppose it will come to light if she has. If she has, I will stop her contact with the kids.

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Groovee · 07/02/2016 21:13

I remember your first thread. I am so sorry Mama. Thinking of you X

GNRmama · 07/02/2016 21:16

Oh Mama, what is your MIL thinking? I understand she's grieving but she risking losing even more by pushing you away. I hope it's not true. Also, I think you're doing brilliantly!

notapizzaeater · 07/02/2016 21:16

((Hugs That's awful of mil Does she not realise it's hurting fir all of you :-(

MamaTeeTee · 07/02/2016 21:31

If she does, I won't be able to do anything with the house for a minimum of 6 months so likelihood is that it will be repossessed. I have to sell it to pay off our debts. We took out a 7grand loan in my name that i still need to keep paying every month. I'm a TA, I can't afford it all. We didn't have any savings as we hadn't long bought a house and we only paid off the wedding the week before xmas. He was the breadwinner.
I applied for tax credits but they've asked for 109 years worth of bank statements and bills, childcare costs and my granny's bra size. Ive got it all ready to post tomorrow but God knows how long it will take.

I have no option but to stop her contact with the kids. It's the last thing I want but it's the only thing that will make her see sense. I need to protect mine and the kids security.

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Lolimax · 07/02/2016 21:39

Mama can mil actually do that with probate? Did DH leave a will? Even if he didn't surely as his wife everything goes to you? I hope you have a good lawyer. Dear God you don't need any more stress than you're already living with.

MamaTeeTee · 07/02/2016 21:45

Apparently anyone can put a caveat on it. It prevents you doing anything for 6 months. I'm not really sure how it works but I will find out more on Tuesday. We didn't have a will. We are so young we didn't really think of it

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DancingGoose · 07/02/2016 21:49

gosh. she's really going for the jugular. I'm gobsmacked at how it's gone from her treating you like you were one of her family to this cold, calculated desire to take everything from you. yes, I know she's grieving and blames you........but..but..but...

on another note, have you been offered any bereavement counselling for you and the kids?

MamaTeeTee · 07/02/2016 21:59

The kids are

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MamaTeeTee · 07/02/2016 22:00

The kids are having counselling via school. The school I work in have arranged counselling for me I just have to call to make the appointment. It's on the to do list.

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Knitmyshickers10 · 07/02/2016 22:01

Are you able to meet with your MIL and talk to her? Put her mind at rest? Surely she wouldn't want your DC's to suffer even more?

RidersOnTheStorm · 07/02/2016 22:07

So sorry, Mama. Maybe it would be best, for now, to only communicate through the solicitor. And certainly don't let the DCs near her while she's behaving like this.

bringmelaughter · 07/02/2016 22:07

I don't know if anyone has mentioned them but Winston's wish are amazing in supporting children who have been bereaved and in helping families to understand how best to support bereaved children. www.winstonswish.org.uk

MamaTeeTee · 07/02/2016 22:08

There's no talking to her. I know her well. She will never ever admit she's wrong. She's held a grudge against her brother for
20 years for something ridiculous and they haven't spoken for 20 years. This is it now. As soon as I get comfirmation from the solicitor that she has put in a caveat, I will write her a letter explaining that everything ive ever done regarding DH was with the DCs interests at heart. I will also state that if I had done half of the things dH had done, ive not doubt MiL would have been encouraging him to leave me and file for custody. I will also send her a copy of the statement I have to the police so she can see what I have been living with the last 6 months. I will also get a print out of my prescriptions from the doctors so she can see his behaviour gave me anxiety. And I'll tell her she can kiss goodbye to her grandkids unless she removes the caveat.
I don't want to use the kids as a weapon but that's the only thing that will work.

I have to look after number one here.

I'm 99.9999% she got into my house whilst we were away this week too.

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RidersOnTheStorm · 07/02/2016 22:10

Locksmith tomorrow, then.