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EdgarAleNPie · 21/03/2011 19:58

we are putting together a service for DS.

we don't do God, although we're not totally adverse to any mention - so what we're thinking in terms of elements -

Eulogy (my Dad has volunteered)
poems this one 'On a Train' by Wendy Cope

anything more appropriate for a childs funeral? something a bit funnier?
song - All Things Bright & Beautiful

i was going to ask everyone to wear bright or better still flowery clothing because ds loved flowers and colour.

what more should we be thinking about?

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travellingwilbury · 21/03/2011 20:01

Edgar one of the things we did was tape it , not a video just audio . I have never listened to it but I like the fact I have got it there . The day is such a blur that it is nice (weird word I know) to know I can listen to it if I want to .

I am so sorry you are walking this crappy path , I truly hope you are getting all the support and help you want and need atm .

youretheoneformefatty · 21/03/2011 20:02

Just wanted to say, the poem is beautiful, Edgar. You're all in my thoughts. X

barmbrack · 21/03/2011 20:05

Hello Edgar.

A 6 year old sister of a child in my class died and at her funeral we all wore bright colours because she would have liked that.

There was a big display of pebbles and flowers at the front and the children who came all chose a pebble to remember the child by. They held them through the service too.

The poem you have chosen is beautiful.

Artichokes · 21/03/2011 20:09

I too so sorry that you are treading this path. I think your posts are very brave and strong.

Funeral ideas:

  • personalise the coffin, maybe by draping it in a favourite blanket or clothing.
  • at my mother's funeral we released white doves as we lowered the coffin into the ground. It made a very painful moment quite beautiful
  • choose songs that are meaningful to you, even if they aren't 'funeral' songs. Maybe a song he liked to hear or sing.
  • have a book at the wake where people can write memories of your DS. It will help remind you of little moments you may have forgotten.

I hope some of those ideas are helpful. I am wishing you every strength as you plan this.

barmbrack · 21/03/2011 20:12

We had this at my father's funeral.

He is Gone
You can shed tears that he is gone,
Or you can smile because he lived,
You can close your eyes and pray that he will come back,
Or you can open your eyes and see all that he has left.

Your heart can be empty because you can't see him
Or you can be full of the love that you shared,
You can turn your back on tomorrow and live yesterday,
Or you can be happy for tomorrow because of yesterday.

You can remember him and only that he is gone
Or you can cherish his memory and let it live on,
You can cry and close your mind be empty and turn your
back,
Or you can do what he would want: smile, open your eyes,
love and go on.

Northernlurker · 21/03/2011 20:12

We went to bil's funeral last week. Bil was a school caretaker and all the children made mexican paper flowers which decorated the church. Garlands, posies and some in pots with art straws for paper stems. It was amazing That might be something for friends or nursery to think about doing ?
Details here

meditrina · 21/03/2011 20:23

If you have a good organist available, then you might like to think about having as processional or recessional music Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Variations on "Ah vous dirai-je, Maman" (K. 265 / K. 300e - it's essentially "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star").

Was there a favourite bedtime book that could be used as a reading?

Hope all goes gently for you.

KnittingRocks · 21/03/2011 20:24

At my friend's funeral everyone brought a sunflower (she died in Sept so the timing was right for this). It was so poignant to see all the mourners streaming into the chapel with their sunflower.

We laid them all around her graveside as we each said our goodbyes.

Maybe daffodils would be appropriate for now?

I am so very very sorry for your loss, Edgar. It is breathtaking in it's sadness.

oneofsuesylvesterscheerios · 21/03/2011 20:26

So sorry to hear about your dd, Edgar, I truly am. What about an excerpt from the last chapter of the house at pooh corner? It's very sad- all about saying goodbye- but very beautiful, simply written and suitably child-like. I can get the excerpt for you if you want?

oneofsuesylvesterscheerios · 21/03/2011 20:27

Gosh I'm so sorry, I thought I'd written ds. my apologies x

EdgarAleNPie · 21/03/2011 20:41

last chapter at the bottom of here a very good idea

i loved that story when i was little. the end is very sad.

' Then, suddenly again, Christopher Robin, who was Still
looking at the world with his chin in his hands, called out
"Pooh!"
"Yes?" said Pooh.
"When I'mwhen Pooh!"
"Yes, Christopher Robin?"
"I'm not going to do Nothing any more."
"Never again?"
"Well, not so much. They don't let you."
Pooh waited for him to go on, but he was silent again.
"Yes, Christopher Robin?" said Pooh helpfully.
"Pooh, when I'myou knowwhen I'm not doing Nothing,
will you come up here sometimes?"
"Just Me?"
"Yes, Pooh."
"Will you be here too?"
"Yes, Pooh, I will be really. I promise I will be,
Pooh."
"That's good," said Pooh.
"Pooh, promise you won't forget about me, ever. Not
even when I'm a hundred."
Pooh thought for a little.
"How old shall I be then?"
"Ninety-nine."
Pooh nodded.
"I promise," he said.
Still with his eyes on the world Christopher Robin put
out a hand and felt for Pooh's paw.
"Pooh," said Christopher Robin earnestly, "if I--if I'm
not quite" he stopped and tried again --". Pooh, whatever
happens, you will understand, won't you?"
"Understand what?"
"Oh, nothing." He laughed and jumped to his feet. "Come
on!"
"Where?" said Pooh.
"Anywhere," said Christopher Robin.

    So  they  went  off together. But wherever they go, and

whatever happens to them on the way, in that enchanted place on
the top of the Forest a little boy and his Bear will always be
playing.

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EdgarAleNPie · 21/03/2011 20:43

yes i like the idea of flowers made by nursery. DD would like to make things for him.

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GRW · 21/03/2011 20:43

I am so sorry for your loss. You may want to have a book of condolences at the service where those attending can write their memories of your son. It can be a blur at the time and difficult to remember who was there.

youjusthaventearnedityetbaby · 21/03/2011 20:45

My friend lost her 2 year old dd to a brain tumour too, totally heartbreaking and I'm so sorry to hear of your loss, it has brought back some very poignant and also some very special memories... I wish you all luck, love and light on your journey.... I look at my friend now two years on and she is amazing, inspirational. I don't think you can ever make sense of what has happened to your family... but I do see a loving mum who is not as overwhelmed by her grief as she was.
The funeral was a private family affair but they had a memorial service/celebration of life service for extended family and friends, it was a very special day. The church was decorated with balloons of her favourite characters (Peppa Pig) and her favourite books were read out loud.... We also had 'all things bright and beautiful'...
At the end of the service, all the children were given a balloon and we all went outside to set the balloons free into the sky. It was absolutely stunning and all the children remember it still...
You are in my thoughts, much love...

Figgyrolls · 21/03/2011 20:47

Edgar I was going to suggest something by AA Milne and that is lovely.

What about No Matter What by Debi Gliori? Am happy to type out the book if you would like to have it?

ILikeToMoveItMoveIt · 21/03/2011 20:47

Have you thought about a Humanist ceremony Edgar? For ds we had a woodland burial and a humanist ceremony as we aren't in anyway religious.

The passage from Pooh has taken my breath away.

Sending you all strength and love xxx

smokinaces · 21/03/2011 20:49

I went to the funeral of a friend's 2 year old son a couple of years back. They played his favourite theme tune (Thomas) and read a poem written by a family member, as well as played a song written and perfomed bu another family member. At the end of the service they released balloons. It was the hardest funeral I have ever been to, but also the most personalised.

Thinking of you x

oneofsuesylvesterscheerios · 21/03/2011 20:50

Edgar - that excerpt is beautiful Smile

Could you maybe use one if your ds's pictures (that he drew/coloured) for the order of service?

youjusthaventearnedityetbaby · 21/03/2011 20:50

I LOVE the passage from Winnie the Pooh, breathtaking....

Tsil · 21/03/2011 21:10

I have always thought His journey has just begun was quite beautiful in it's sentiment

Don't think of him as gone away
His journey's just begun
This life has many facets
This earth is only one

Just think of him as resting
From the sorrows and the tears
In a place of warmth and comfort
Where there are no days or years

Think how he must be wishing
That we could know today
Nothing but our sadness
Can really pass away

And think of him as living
In the hearts of those he touched
For nothing loved is ever lost
And he was loved so much.

E Brenneman

The excerpt from winnie the pooh had me in tears, it is perfect.

Hassled · 21/03/2011 21:35

That AA Milne piece is just perfect - absolutely lovely. And I love the Wendy Cope poem too.
I can't begin to say how sorry I am, and how often you're in my thoughts.

I wish I had practical advice - I like the sound recording idea; there are bits of my parents' funerals that just passed me by in my grief and I wished afterwards that I'd been able to take more of it in.

EdgarAleNPie · 21/03/2011 21:35

releasing balloons very good idea. Ds loved balloons, he used to sleep with one in his bed.

i had thought about burial of the ashes in woodland but it seems too unprotected and I don't want him to be..alone. i have tried to get somewhere he can have a tree/bush planted over him. so that something with flowers can use his little substance to grow.

we can use a local churchyard for this.

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EdgarAleNPie · 21/03/2011 21:38

i'm not sure whether to do In The night Garden...as his sending off tune. He loved it. i was telling him the stories ('where is the pinky-ponk going') in PICU to soothe him. but its the right tune, even though I'd find it really hard.

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RedLentil · 21/03/2011 21:40

Edgar - the Milne is wonderful and a lovely way of talking about things for your older daughter too.
I am so sorry that you are having to go through this.

I wondered if The Little Prince might be helpful for the service as it has some very tender reflections on love and loss in it. I don't have it here at the moment.

And I also wondered if you might like Derek Walcott's poem 'For Adrian' from The Arkansas Testament. It's written in the words of an 8-year-old boy he knew who died suddenly. It's a poem that I've taught to classes of children who've lost a friend and they've found it comforting at a very bleak time.

For Adrian
April 14, 1986
(To Grace, Ben, Judy, Junior, Norline, Katryn, Gem, Stanley and Diana)

Look, and you will see that the furniture is fading,
that a wardrobe is as insubstantial as a sunset,

that I can see through you, the tissue of your leaves,
the light behind your veins: why do you keep sobbing?

The days run through the light's fingers like dust
or a child's in a sandpit. When you see the stars

do you burst into tears? When you look at the sea
isn't your heart full? Do you think your shadow

can be as long as the desert? I am a child, listen,
I did not invite or invent angels. It is easy

to be an angel, to speak now beyond my eight years,
to have more vestal authority, and to know,

because I have now entered a wisdom, not a silence.
Why do you miss me? I am not missing you, sisters,

neither Judith, whose hair will banner like the leopard's
in the pride of her young bearing, nor Katryn, not Gem

sitting in a corner of her pain, nor my aunt, the one
with the soft eyes that have soothed the one who writes this,

I would not break your heart, and you should know it,
I would not make you suffer, and you should know it,

and I am not suffering, but it is hard to know it.
I am wiser, I share the secret that is only a silence,

with the tyrants of the earth, with the man who piles rags
in a creaking cart, and goes around a corner

of a square at dusk. You measure my age wrongly,
I am not young now, nor old, not a child, nor a bud

snipped before it flowered, I am part of the muscle
of a galloping lion, or a bird keeping low over

dark canes; and what, in your sorrow, in our faces
howling like statues, you call a goodbye

isI wish you would listen to mea different welcome,
which you will share with me, and see that it is true.

All this the child spoke inside me, so I wrote it down.
As if his closing grave were the smile of the earth.

travellingwilbury · 21/03/2011 21:40

We had "Somewhere over the rainbow" played at the end which seemed really fitting somehow .

Whatever you decide to do will be perfect I am sure .

It is something nobody should ever have to even think about and the whole thing is just shite . Be kind to yourself .

I think a memory book for people to write in is a lovely idea and something I wish we had done .