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For all of you lot who have tvs in your kids rooms

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fishfinger · 05/07/2005 12:05

i made ds1 read this this morning

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Angeliz · 05/07/2005 21:38

I'm another one who doesn't like t.v's in bedrooms.
I like to read and i feel it's a quiet little haven the bedroom and i guess my dd's will have to feel that too!!

fishfinger · 05/07/2005 21:39

lets face it no one WITH tvs in their rooms would say
"Yes my son has them and is a dunce!" woudl they?
look at the rersearch!!

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Angeliz · 05/07/2005 21:39

Each to their own mind, i'm not critisizing anyone who does, just putting my little opinion!

fishfinger · 05/07/2005 21:40

aaah get off the fence A

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QueenOfQuotes · 05/07/2005 21:41

"Yes my son has them and is a dunce!" woudl they?
look at the rersearch!!"

So I'm assuming then - all those that don't have TV's in their bedrooms, or have very limited TV watching at home are all top of the class then???????

Milliways · 05/07/2005 21:42

Mine both have a TV & a PC in bedrooms. DS is onlt allowed telly at certain times, but we do allow him to go to bed & watch a later program (eg Top Gear)for a treat. It also means that we can watch an older film without having to wait for them to go to bed.

DD has just got level 8 Maths & level 7 science in YR9 SATS, and is top of almost ALL her classes + on varous sports teams. DS (9) is also doing extremely well at school. He has spent as long in his room this week building scalextric as he does other days playing on PC/playstation.

Angeliz · 05/07/2005 21:42

I dare not!

(sad innit??and those splinters don't alf chaf!)

Blossomhill · 05/07/2005 21:44

We have one in ds's room (7 and a half) as he plays his gamecube in there. However he has only had it for a few months and doesn't actually watch any tv. Also doesn't go on game cube after he has had his dinner as feel he needs to wind down.

Enid · 05/07/2005 21:45

well I promise you having no tv has made a huge difference to my dds.

I think children having tvs in bedrooms is totally scuzzy. I hate the idea of them squirrelled away in their rooms watching telly on their own. HOW CAN THAT BE RIGHT!!

QueenOfQuotes · 05/07/2005 21:51

We never had a TV growing up AT ALL.

My brother struggled at school and left with only 2 GSCE's - Grade D's

I did very well at school - gaining at least C's in both Highers and CSYS....

We were both treated the same at home - it just so happens that I was brighter at school, and he wasn't (now doing very well in his job, and about to train to be a minister in the church of Scotland).

Blossomhill · 05/07/2005 21:53

Enid - my ds isn't on his own. He is playing the gamecube with his sister.

nutcracker · 05/07/2005 21:53

I can research this for you if you like, but not until november

Dd1 is getting a tv then and so far she is doing very very well at school.

QueenOfQuotes · 05/07/2005 21:56

"I hate the idea of them squirrelled away in their rooms watching telly on their own."

So if DS1 asks if he can play in his room (he doesn't have a TV up there) on his own I'm supposed to say no? Or is it ok for them to play in their bedrooms with toys, but not watch TV?

fishfinger · 05/07/2005 22:13

ooh i hate "poeple quoting"

qoq I cna rarely agree wiht you on anythign so wont even try here

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Mum2girls · 05/07/2005 22:18

I'm going to sound very pompous here, but am amazed that anyone would find this surprising. Stands to reason - all those shite reality tv programs? Talk about tv dumbing down.

QueenOfQuotes · 05/07/2005 22:20

so fishfinger - I take it you children aren't top of the class them despite not having TV in their rooms???

and quoting actually makes it easier to know who the reponses are to.. - nothing worse than reading a thread were you see loads of

"was that comment directed at me"

"who are you talking to"

"oh sorry - wasn't refering to you" type comments.

jenkel · 05/07/2005 22:25

I never had a TV in my room and was discouraged from watching TV as a child and growing up. I done OK at school, struggled a bit but got somewhere eventually. DH watched tons of TV, he moved around a lot as a child so kept losing and making new friends, he lived in a tiny Village so not a great choice of play mates so watched lots of TV. He achieved a lot more academically than me.

bigdonna · 05/07/2005 22:53

ther might be research but it does not go for everyone .there is research saying boys are lazy well my son was potty trained before all his girlfriends and dry at night about 3 yrs before his girlfriends.Also learnt to read before the girls,and is very bright he was finished all reading books at 6 and on free reading ,sorry but you cannot believe all research.

bigdonna · 05/07/2005 22:56

sorry im not meaning to start an arguement but come on what they probably mean are kids who sit in front of tv 7hrs a day or so.

bonkerz · 05/07/2005 23:02

Ds has a tv in his room and a DVD player and a video. He is only allowed to watch tv when i say and never more than one vid or dvd at a time. Some days i only let him watch 15 mins downstairs and on days like today he has had NO television whatsoever. Surely it is down to parental control? My ds is a very bright lad who is doing amazingly well at school. He has never played on a console computer and the only computer games we have for the pc are educational and he cannot use the computer without me or dh with him. Sorry but i do find it annoying when generalisations like this are made because ultimately its down to the parents and how much time they spend with their children as to how well they do at school!

SenoraPostrophe · 05/07/2005 23:06

precis the article please someone - the times in its xenophobic wisdom does not allow those of us with non-Uk web connections to read stuff without paying.

emkana · 05/07/2005 23:08

If you scroll up through the thread there was another link further up which you might be able to access with the same article in it.

QueenOfQuotes · 05/07/2005 23:08

Take TV out of child's bedroom, parents are told
By Sam Lister
Studies show how watching too much television can damage a pupil?s progress
CHILDREN who watch a lot of television and have a set in their bedroom do significantly worse at school than others and are less likely to reach university, research suggests.

A series of studies published today indicate the damage done by television to children?s development and progress at school. One, by scientists in New Zealand, found that those who watched the most television were the least likely to leave school with qualifications and had a smaller chance of getting a university degree.

In another independent project, conducted in the United States by researchers at Stanford and Johns Hopkins universities, children who had televisions in their rooms were found to be lower academic achievers. Those without a bedside TV but who had access to a computer at home, did significantly better at mathematics, reading and language tests than their peers.

A third study, by researchers at the University of Washington in Seattle, found that television could impair the development of very young pre-school children but may have some benefits for those aged between three and five.

The three studies appear this month in Archives of Pediatric and Adolescent Medicine, a journal published by the American Medical Association. An accompanying editorial said that parents should choose with care programmes that stimulate and are appropriate to the age of their children.

The New Zealand team, led by Robert Hancox, from the University of Otago, conducted a long-term study of more than 1,000 children aged 5, 7, 9, 11, 13 and 15. ?The results of this study indicate that increased time spent watching television during childhood and adolescence was associated with a lower level of educational attainment by early adulthood,? the authors concluded. ?Lower mean viewing hours between 5 and 11 years of age were a stronger predictor of achieving a university degree.?

The Stanford study followed a diverse group of almost 400 third-grade pupils, with an average age of eight, at six Californian schools. Children with a TV in their bedrooms, but no home computer, achieved the worst scores in school achievement tests. Those in the reverse situation scored the highest.

Thomas Robinson, from the Lucile Packard Children?s Hospital at Stanford, who led the research, said: ?This study provides even more evidence that parents should take the television out of their child?s room, or not put it there in the first place.? The researchers, who found that more than 70 per cent of pupils reported having a television in their bedroom, did not know why it had such an effect on examination results.

Dr Robinson, who has done previous studies showing that decreasing a child?s time in front of the TV can reduce obesity, aggressive behaviour and pestering of parents for advertised toys, added that it fitted with a pattern of behaviour. ?A television in a child?s bedroom has become the norm,? he said. ?From the parent?s perspective, it keeps kids amused and out of trouble. But with this arrangement, parents are giving up any control over how much and what their children are watching.

?They have no idea if they are watching all night, or if they are watching violent or sexually explicit content, or content or advertising that promotes alcohol or drug use.?

The third study analysed data on 1,797 children from a survey of mathematics, reading and comprehension skills in America. Frederick Zimmerman and Dimitri Christakis, from the University of Washington, reported ?a consistent pattern of negative associations between television before age three years and adverse cognitive outcomes at ages 6 and 7 years?.

titchy · 05/07/2005 23:23

QoQ - actually yes I think it is better that they are up in their rooms playing with toys rather than watchiing tv. At least they are developing their imaginations, creating works of art, role playing, practising self discipline andn all the other great things that kids learn through play. They get very little of that passivelyy watching tv.

Only one tv in our house and that's in the living room. One computer which is in the study. No game boys, playstations and no intention of getting one for the foreseeable future (dcs are 6 and 4). Lots of books in the house though AND I'm on the PTA

[smug emoticon]

QueenOfQuotes · 05/07/2005 23:27

But does anyone here have one of those children that sit 'passively' watching the TV??

I certainly don't - neither of mine sit 'down' and watch anything (unless it's Star Trek Voyager with Daddy on a Sunday afternoon ) and even then it's only about 15-20 minutes before he's up and wandering around, playing with toys, dancing to the music, getting a book to read (well try to read lol) etc etc.