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2 month old wont sleep on stomach

135 replies

maidezmoi · 10/09/2008 11:46

Hi I want to get my LO to take naps on her stomach during the day. However she flatly refuses to do so. Any tips?

OP posts:

Are your children’s vaccines up to date?

Set a reminder

ingles2 · 12/09/2008 19:44

I'm not getting involved in bitching of any sort.

When ds1 was tiny, he had the flattest head I have ever seen and I work with babies. It really was totally flat and bald from rubbing. My very old school dr just told me to keep him on his back and turn his head to the other side regularly. He's now very nearly nine and you would never know in a million years. His head is still slightly flat, but nothing compared to his early years and with hair you can't see it at all. Infact he is super gorgeous. So, please leave your baby on her back and turn her head.
HTH's

fryalot · 12/09/2008 19:45

themildmanneredstalker · 12/09/2008 19:45

maidezmoi-how do you think people are going to react to your posts in future?
do youthinkpeople will be eager to helpmor chat or do you thinkmpeople will think 'bugger that-she is an aggtessive loon?'

combustiblemelon · 12/09/2008 19:48

And I thought I was being a reactionary bitch today.

Seona1973 · 12/09/2008 19:48

I used a goi goi pillow for both naps and night-time sleep to help with the flattening of ds's head. He never lost any hair though.

GColdtimer · 12/09/2008 19:49

maidezmoi - I really think you were the first one to start getting aggressive on this thread. Honestly, read back and you will see.

Calling people names isn't the way to win friends and influence people around here.

I don't normally get involved in these thread but I was really at your response.

LackaDAISYcal · 12/09/2008 19:52

this might be stating the obvious but maybe she is reacting to whatever you use to bath her in, or to the detergent you use and her head is just plain itchy? terry sheets are also bad for rubbing bald bits.

re the flat head thing, my nephew has just come out of a helmet at 12 months, he was a twin who was squashed in utero and it was really quite bad. The consultant said that helmet therapy will only work, to a degree, up till one year of age and that after that the plates on the head aren't as malleable as they need to be to have an effect, so worrying about her being in a helmet "when she is older" is a bit pointless as it would have little or no effect anyway.

Also, is she showing any signs of having a flat head at this stage? if not, I think you are maybe worrying unnecessarily, and should follow the "back to sleep" guidlines.

Am a bit shocked at your repsonse to a few faces though. People are well meaning; you didn't mention red raw and sore in your OP. People take OPs at face value and react accordingly.

and squonk is a perfectly reasonable, personable woman, not vicious (unless provoked ) and has provided lots of well meaning advice and support to people on here. I don't think she deserved your abuse for calling you up on your apparent attitude to people advising you what the safety guidelines say.

RandomIdiot · 12/09/2008 19:53

Bloody hell.

I cannot believe this thread.

You asked for advice on how to put a 2m baby to sleep on her front. Fair enough.

The first few posters pleasantly re-iterate givernment guiidlines. Admittedly they didn't actually answer the actual question you asked...but they were trying to be helpful.

the slightly more heated posts came later after it became clear that you were not interested in advice because it didn't fit what you wanted to do.

Every MNetter is entitled to their opinions. - as are you. But you cannot control what people say. but there is nothing to stop you ignoring it.

The back to sleep campaign, IMVHO has been one of the most successful advice campaigns in medical history. As Soapy says that is the only reason why more babies die of flu than SIDs.

And just to elaborate on teh case of a MNetter who lost her DD to SIDs (appologies if I am overstepping the mark here). It was during a daytime nap that she passed away. A daytime nap is no safer than a nighttime sleep to put a baby on their front.

I am sorry that you don't agree with everyone on this thread....we can't help that. We are just posting our opinions, many of which are backed up by fact.

likessleep · 12/09/2008 19:53

I am at the language and words that have been used on this thread too and I agree with twofalls.

Being a mum is hard enough. I appreciate there is some annonyminity (yeah I know my spelling is rubbish) with this forum malarky, but we are all people behind the typing.

This has just got silly (to say the least) and out of hand. This forum is supposed to be about support.

Dropdeadfred · 12/09/2008 19:55

Don't be horrid to Squonk - she is lovely!!!

mamazee · 12/09/2008 20:22

WOW..i really think this thread needs to stop.

i am really shocked by how people are reacting to each other.

we all are doing the best we can and we need to be kind to each other.

Jeez...its really bloody sad.

HarryAndRon · 12/09/2008 20:36

and

no-one calls my mate a 'vicious little toad'

how very dare YOU, you evil old hag.

how very dare you ignore advice over a vanity....which is all it is, flat head or bald head.

if your baby goes into a car seat, then that will rub hair away.

ditto with a pram

ditto with rubbing their hair after a bath (which is how my children lost their hair on top of their head

oooh, you are nasty

Claire236 · 12/09/2008 20:48

maidezmoi you asked how to get your baby to sleep on their front because of a bald spot on the back of the head. People were concerned that you weren't aware of the risks & pointed them out to you. You then got abusive. You didn't say your baby had a sore head or that your HV had suggested sleeping on her front would be beneficial. Whilst this has been pointed out by other posters I'm hoping that if you get reminded of who started the nasty posts by enough people you might actually see that you were the one causing the problem.

psychomum5 · 12/09/2008 20:54

I was very nice and kind on my post down the thread.

I am very very shocked that it is down to a bald spot.

the vanity is laughable!!!

TrevorTheToad · 12/09/2008 20:58

fryalot · 12/09/2008 20:59

Guadalupe · 12/09/2008 21:03

How would you like it if someone made you sleep on your front in case you looked ugly from behind?

HarryAndRon · 12/09/2008 21:08

I love all my friends who earn it

ron and squonk and others she has insulted,(and the toads)!!

piximon · 12/09/2008 21:09

My dd1 (4) was a tummy sleeper. Actually she didn't sleep at all for several weeks until visiting HV suggested weighing up the risks and putting her on her front to sleep, although advised it went against her guidelines.

DS3 is the same. He's been sling carried since birth, pretty much all day, so if put down for a nap I think he misses that pressure against his tummy. He is 5mths now and turns himself over so nothing for it but to let him.

DS1 has a flat head from spending too much time lying down as a baby, when we had him there was no guidance about tummy time.

DT2 has plagiocephaly and we're using a band although he's 21mths so not such if money has just been thrown away or if it will do some good, I wouldn't have bothered but I'm hoping it will improve his facial symmetry.

HarryAndRon · 12/09/2008 21:09

in fact, I brandish my wand.

in fact, does harry and ron defeat a troll???

hehe

TrevorTheToad · 12/09/2008 21:12

Ooh yay - wand up nose!!!

HarryAndRon · 12/09/2008 21:13

altho, icky troll bogeys......

GreenMonkies · 12/09/2008 21:17

I am going to pick up on a couple of points;

She rubs her head whilst trying to fall asleep, my solution, hold her, on your lap or in a sling, until she is asleep. That she is rubbing her head from side to side so much/fast/hard that it is making her head sore, to me this indicates a level of distress, perhaps she needs holding or rocking to sleep. I don't know why you expect a baby of 8 weeks to be able to settle off to sleep without being rocked/nursed any way!

The only safe way to have a tiny baby sleep on it's tummy is on your chest, so that you can hear and feel them breathing and make sure thier faces are not covered. Premmies in SCBU/NICU sleep prone, but they are monitored constantly.

You want to avoid flat head, well, babies from cultures that use slings don't get flat heads, and it's not a coincidence!!! Carry your baby, don't put her down, at night sleep with her next you so she sleeps on her side facing you and not flat on her back alone in a cot/moses basket.

At 8 weeks neither of mine were having "daytime naps", they both just nodded off after feeds, it sounds to me as if you are being quite rigid and structured, so I also suggest you throw away the Gna Frd book and just feed her when she's hungry, cuddle/hold her a lot and let her fall asleep when she's tired!

Just chill. With your baby and here on MN!!!

mamazee · 12/09/2008 21:20

aha piximon..i never made the connection maybe that was why my ds much preferred sleeping on his front...the sling thing.
weighing up the risks is a good term for this post. i did it and my ds slept on his front.
i had no idea that a MNer dd had died and that explains why people were quite vehement at the beginning.
it was noticeable to me that the comments at the beginning were quite full on..that said it does not merit the reaction.

Piffle · 12/09/2008 21:44

I had 3 tummy sleepers
They never settled on thris backs
But they had bald spots on the side of their heads
Ds1 who fought sleep and was v restless sleeper rubbed hid raw until we got him a lambskin to put under his sheet.
So ignoring the other stuff if plain advice is what you are truly after
That's mine
But have seen some way out of line comments
People commented out of concern for you possibly thinking you did not know current guidelines and interpreting your first post as a vanity issue.
Everyone is very reactive on here
How's the moonwatch huh?

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