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Key worker at nursery has commented 2 1/2 yo won't count to five, and is always in naughty corner

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drivinmecrazy · 31/01/2008 22:53

My DD2 goes to nursery 3 mornings a week, and I dread picking her up. Last week I was told she was put in naughty corner three times (she's only there for 3 hour sessions) she turned computer off when another child was playing with it, she got on the table three times, and painted on another child ( she's a handful, but not nasty). Last week her key worker said she was concerned because she won't sit with her and count. apparently she will get to 3 then wander off. She also has never spoken to her key worker, although she talks to other staff. I got really paranoid about counting, so in the last week me and DD1 have got her counting to 10, so she can't be that daft.
Is this normal?? DD1 is 7 and was counting to twenty at same age, and counting in spanish and has always been academically advanced, so I really don't know what is 'normal' for 2 yo. Are they expected to count to five at this age??
My DD1 loved this nursery, but wonder if DD2 would benefit from a different nursery. I come out jumping with joy if they say she has been good, but they always sound slightly suprised. I think they compare her to her sister. Have got parents morning next week, should I go or just keep my head down

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serin · 31/01/2008 23:38

Bravo, Desi!!

I would be bloody furious if someone put my 2.5yr old in a corner, she's just a baby and deserves to be with people who will love her.

drivinmecrazy · 31/01/2008 23:43

DD actually finds the naughty corner quite fun. Same at home, she sits on naughty stair singing, picking the paint off the walls, and is generally reluctant to leave it

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Tortington · 31/01/2008 23:45

the kid is TWO ffs

they are alowed to do things that would otherwise be considered naughty - its called exploration

the nursary jas a job to make sure that they can explore in a safe environment and appropriatley

if i were you - i would take them to one side ans whisper " two years old....two...two....t..w...o.." give them a wink and then say - i am completely not bothered by the behaviour mentioned i thinkits normal - have you got a policy for that becuase i wont fit in the corner lady

greenstar · 31/01/2008 23:45

nursery seems appalling and I would remove your child. I am a teacher who is currently working in a nursery and I have a child of 2.5. Children should not be forced to do anything they don't want to do,in this case, counting, or formally sitting down. Have the staff an alternative?Playing catch and counting? Asking your child to give out 5plates?Stick 5 eyes onto a paper alien? They sound like right Hitlers.The naughty corner is ridiculous and Victorian, and also not allowed. Sometimes I ask children to take a little time out and sit elsewhere,but never for longer than 120 seconds. I reasonably ask them why they are there and what we can do to make it better, reminding them how lovely they are and that perhaps they forgot!Ask your nursery for a 'well done' book-your child can decorate it and every day (and night), the staff and you write down the things your child did to make them proud. Positivity and self-pride encourages good behaviour, most of all, so does being happy. They seem to have forgotten they are working with BABIES, who they can influence enormously. Sorry for the essay, but I hate situations like this, it gives the rest of us a bad name.

Quattrocento · 31/01/2008 23:47

Cunty, I am not entirely sure about your name appearing on a kindergarten thread ...

Head down btw for the OP. Have you thought about not going?

S1ur · 31/01/2008 23:47

Really should consider moving nurseries imo. Naughty corner! FFS! Its a bad practice and your dc will not be benefiting from this at two. TWO!

Look about for other places.

Desiderata · 31/01/2008 23:49

Dirty Dancing

Nobody puts baby in a corner ..

I'm confused by the nursery stories I read on here. Ds stayed with me, went to work with me, until he got to three and qualified for his 12.5 hours free nursery. I'll have owt if it's free

He still goes to work with me, but it's a bit easier now. He goes to a SureStart Nursery, a government funded thingy, where the staff are highly motivated and truly, truly caring and gorgeous.

He has his own little diary, where they take photo's of him during the hours he's there, and they truly love him. Some things can't be faked.

The ethos? No formal education, just play. Open door policy in all weathers, and nappies if they still need them at three or four.

Not a naughty step in sight.

AitchTwoOh · 31/01/2008 23:52

i think you have your answer, the nursery is not the right place for your child. (or anyone else's imo).

AitchTwoOh · 31/01/2008 23:54

actually that's true, des, i'm sure that the manager of dd's nursery told me that it was ALL learning through sensoy play until 3 years old.
so, water, painting, drawing, books, toys and er, snails for a year. (they're big on snails at dd's nursery).

drivinmecrazy · 31/01/2008 23:54

Wish I could, cuntardo. I loved this nursery for DD1 because the staff were slightly older, and most had raised their own children. Now half the staff are younger with no real life experience of raising kids. Also used to love this nursery because they intentionally didn't put any emphasis on academia because the philosophy of the founder was that as long as they could recognize letters and numbers and hold a book up the right way and turn the pages, by the time they started school they would be ready to learn.

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SnappyLaGore · 31/01/2008 23:54

bloody hell...

whatever else that place is, it is clearly not good for your daughter.
time to find a new place i think.

(suppresses urge to go and mouth off at nursery on behalf on drivin's dd)

Tortington · 01/02/2008 00:15

quat - i see your point, kindergarten kids might see my name and chant cunt cunt cunt

Trolleydolly71 · 01/02/2008 00:15

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bergentulip · 01/02/2008 11:03

I would suggest that you ask for a new keyworker. It sounds like me like bad behaviour is stemming from dislike / mistrust of this adult in her life. You said she speaks to all the other adults and not her own keyworker. Alarm bells would ring for me there. The 'chemistry' between them clearly is all wrong.

And definitely go to the parents' meeting and ask some very pertinent and challenging questions. I assume you will get to speak to the nursery manager as well?

mumeeee · 01/02/2008 11:13

I agree with othrs.Take her out and find a differnt nusery.It is normal for a 2.5 year old not to be able to count up to 5.

rebelmum1 · 01/02/2008 11:40

I think their expectations are higher than the age groups development potential. I can't believe that they are concerned that a 2.5 yr old is unable to count to 5. I don't think they're geared up for toddlers it's plain wrong and quite damaging to be setting targets at this stage! It's not school and should be free play at this age, I mean computers and toddlers ???!!!!! Are they mad? My dd destroyed my work laptop I didn't naughty corner her just keep it out of reach. They think it's like any toy with buttons that they are given from an early age to press. They just can't understand the complexity.

slng · 01/02/2008 13:42

Have only read OP, but agree should probably consider getting her out. Sit and count?!! It betrays a serious lack of imagination.

berolina · 01/02/2008 13:47

Naughty corner? At nursery? FFS.

berolina · 01/02/2008 13:49

And why should a 2 1/2 year old want to sit and count? ds1, 2.8, counts stairs up to our flat, ducks in the park, pictures in books. Couldn't imagine making him count-for-the-sake-of-it.

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