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Key worker at nursery has commented 2 1/2 yo won't count to five, and is always in naughty corner

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drivinmecrazy · 31/01/2008 22:53

My DD2 goes to nursery 3 mornings a week, and I dread picking her up. Last week I was told she was put in naughty corner three times (she's only there for 3 hour sessions) she turned computer off when another child was playing with it, she got on the table three times, and painted on another child ( she's a handful, but not nasty). Last week her key worker said she was concerned because she won't sit with her and count. apparently she will get to 3 then wander off. She also has never spoken to her key worker, although she talks to other staff. I got really paranoid about counting, so in the last week me and DD1 have got her counting to 10, so she can't be that daft.
Is this normal?? DD1 is 7 and was counting to twenty at same age, and counting in spanish and has always been academically advanced, so I really don't know what is 'normal' for 2 yo. Are they expected to count to five at this age??
My DD1 loved this nursery, but wonder if DD2 would benefit from a different nursery. I come out jumping with joy if they say she has been good, but they always sound slightly suprised. I think they compare her to her sister. Have got parents morning next week, should I go or just keep my head down

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colditz · 31/01/2008 22:55

It is probably illegal to use a 'naughty corner'. they are allowed to use time out, but saying it is a 'naughty' anything is against ofsted regulations.

She is 2.5 and they are being fucking absurd. I'd whip her out, and send her somewhere where they can be realistic in their expectations

oranges · 31/01/2008 22:56

poor little girl. get her out of there. the nursery sounds bonkers.

drivinmecrazy · 31/01/2008 22:59

Thank you colditz, it's not me being over sensitive then. I have no problem with the naughty corner, but surely they are trained to deal and correct this behaviour in a more positive way. Three times in three hours seems awfully excessive. Think I made a mistake assuming this nursery would suit DD2 just because it was fantastic for DD1, they are like chalk and cheese, but because they look alike, every where we go, she is compared with her sister.

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controlfreakyagain · 31/01/2008 23:00

they sound HORRID and more than a bit STOOOOPID. ffs. poor dd.

WanderingTrolley · 31/01/2008 23:00

imo the nursery staff sound bored of playing and want to do some teaching

Is she there to be educated or to play?

3littlefrogs · 31/01/2008 23:02

She is 2 and a half - a BABY...

words fail me.

What on earth do they expect, a group of little automatons??? We have really lost the plot with so many really important things in this country.

LittleBella · 31/01/2008 23:04

FGS they sound bonkers.

Find her a different nursery or childminder. Why on earth does a 2 year old need to count to bloody 5 anyway? Jeez.

Chuffinnora · 31/01/2008 23:05

When I picked DS up on Tues after 2 hours the staff said he had been naughty because he wouldn't eat his lunch. Then when I asked if he could attend the next day the girl said "only if its after 1pm 'cos I finish then! - only joking ha ha"
Then when I asked what time he could attend she looked in the book and said "1pm".
I don't think she realised how upset I was.

Chuffinnora · 31/01/2008 23:06

Soory missed out a bit then. When I picked DS from his nursery place.

drivinmecrazy · 31/01/2008 23:07

Is the counting to five thing part of the general targets? Am so paranoid now because she has no real interest in learning colours or shapes, although she did identify a circle today, yippee. She is a very busy child who is always flitting from one thing to another, I know she is a handful, but that is why I put her into nursery. Part of me laughs, at least they are having to earn their money with her

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WriggleJiggle · 31/01/2008 23:12

Go to the parents meeting and start asking some questions. Can you see his profile? Is counting one of the key objective thingys? How are they going to manage his behaviour, obviously the naughty corner doesn't work if it was 3 times in 3 hours? Find out exactly what they expect from him.

If he doesn't speak to his key worker, but speaks to other adults that would worry me. Personally I would just get him out of there, but I'd be interested in hearing their perspective.

Chuffinnora · 31/01/2008 23:13

Drivingmecrazy - how stressed are you when you arrive to collect her?

I am really wound tight but I never was with DD. I never even used to ask of she had been well behaved it was a given. With DS I try not to ask because I Just Don't Want To Know!

cat64 · 31/01/2008 23:14

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drivinmecrazy · 31/01/2008 23:18

Chuffinnora, REALLY stressed. I often sit in the car until I can see the nursery is full of other mums picking up their angels, then try and sneak in and out. She is very sociable, and seems to have made friends with lots of the older children, but whereas with DD1 the staff seemed really warm to me, now they can't wait for me to pick her up and leave. She is not a bad child, but is VERY spirited. Most people find her very amusing (not me, but then I have it 24/7)

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HeadHeartorHormones · 31/01/2008 23:20

She sounds like a normal two year old. I think she deserves better. (Sorry as I don't know where that leaves you).

Chuffinnora · 31/01/2008 23:21

DS starts school nursery in 5 weeks and I'm dreading the daily pick up with the teacher saying "Mrs Nora could we have a quick word please".

DS is just so Spirited!

WriggleJiggle · 31/01/2008 23:23

Go and see the manager and explain your concerns. It sounds like a change of nursery would be good though.

drivinmecrazy · 31/01/2008 23:24

I am dreading her starting school, because DD1 is such a model pupil, top in her class etc. I feel so sorry for DD2 because I know they will expect so much from her. DD1's ballet teacher has said she can't wait for DD2 to reach 3 so she can start classes (DD1 very talented dancer), seems to think DD2 is a carbon copy, PMSL, DD2 is the ultimate sugar plum fairy

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Desiderata · 31/01/2008 23:25

Well, I'm sorry, but you should either change your nursery, or take her out.

The very concept of a naughty corner for such a small child (in my opinion for any child) is disgusting. Am I alone in thinking that modern life is become rather Victorian ... oh, the irony!

When your child has finished her term of incarceration, the question is not whether she's been good. The question is whether she's been happy

They sound like a bunch of cunts.

Chuffinnora · 31/01/2008 23:28

Can't speak for drivingmecrazy but that last word was going through my mind as I left nursery on Tues, Des.

moondog · 31/01/2008 23:30

They are lunatics.
I am a salt and I would have very serious concerns if nursery staff I was working with spoke like this about tiny children.

drivinmecrazy · 31/01/2008 23:32

Yes Desi, my sentiments exactly. She is really happy there, and am tempted to leave her there just to stop them having an easy life, could even encourage a bit of mischief.

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mcnoodle · 31/01/2008 23:32

Agree with Desiderata.

I couldn't give a stuff what DS (2.5) LEARNT at nursery. I only care that he is HAPPY.

Have you asked them that question?

Take her out.

cat64 · 31/01/2008 23:34

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mcnoodle · 31/01/2008 23:34

Sorry

X-post.

I couldn't leave DS anywhere where the only way they could manage his NORMAL 2 year old behaviour was a 'naughty' corner.

Bollocks to it frankly.