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Temper Tantrums or something else in 14th month old?

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PanicPants · 21/10/2006 21:40

Ds has been having some strange 'episodes', mainly late afternoons after naps, but not exclusively.

He's so grisly and bad tempered, almost like a listless temper tantrum iyswim, rolling about on floor crying, not wanting cuddles, but not wanting to be put down either. I can't find anything to pacify him, not food/toys/cuddles/lack of attention.

He kept it up for nearly 2 hours tonight after he woke up from his nap, in the end we put him in his highchair where he threw everything offered on the floor, or pushed it away. Dp and I sat down for our dinner and after about 20 mins he stopped sobbing and began to pick at some raspberries, and then began to eat his roast dinner (finger food version of it) and cheered up!

He's like this a lot now, is anyone else experiencing anything like this?

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PanicPants · 21/10/2006 21:51

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LadyOfTheFlowersAKA2Babies0Bum · 21/10/2006 21:55

EXACTLY THE SAME THING!!!!
Ds1 is 15m.
he carried on afetr waking this afternoon for 40 mins, despite his cousins coming to play with him.
eventually came round, but most days its the doesnt know what he wants thing, cuddles- no - but doesnt want to be left to get on with it either.
all very confusing and frustrating!

LadyOfTheFlowersAKA2Babies0Bum · 21/10/2006 21:56

its only after he wakes up.
he has tantrums, dont get me wrong!
but the inconsolable crying and screaming is only after naps.

FreakyFloss · 21/10/2006 21:58

Just out of interest does he wake up on his own from naps or do you wake him up? I only ask because if we woke DS up he would be like this. The other thing I would say is to try and let him wake up gradually - not to rush in to him as soon as you hear him stir.

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PanicPants · 21/10/2006 22:08

Oh Thankyou! It's such a relief to know someone else is experiencing this.

It is mainly after naps, and we always do let him wake up on his own.

It is frustrating, and I wonder if he's in pain, and have given him calpol in the past but can't give it too him every day!

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Raggydoll · 21/10/2006 22:12

it might be low blood sugar - especially if he improves after his dinner...

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PanicPants · 21/10/2006 22:15

Thats interesting RaggyDoll, how could I test the theory? Give him something sweet to eat before putting him down for a nap?

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Wallace · 21/10/2006 22:19

Dd used to be exactlt like this if woken up

ilovecaboose · 21/10/2006 22:22

when is he going to sleep (naptime) - morning or afternoon.

Are you making sure he's eating plenty of slow burning foods like oats?

IF it is low blood sugar it might be worth looking into his diet and seeing where you can add more slow burning foods.

(ds had tantrums from day 1 - erm he's definately always known his own mind and what he wants)

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PanicPants · 21/10/2006 22:25

It's funny ilovecaboose, becasue dp and I were just sat here thinking about that. He still has a couple of hours in the morning after a breakfast of porridge and fruit and wakes up fine, but he normally goes down for his pm sleep about 3pm after a cup of cows milk. He has his dinner around 12ish.

I wonder if it would be worth adding a snack to go with his 3pm milk? Maybe a second brekfast type snack, some cereal maybe?

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Raggydoll · 21/10/2006 22:26

would he eat something as soon as he wakes up? a banana would be good or someother sweet fruit - fruit is better than a biscuit or chocolate (although if this is all my ds will have then fine) because it lasts longer and you dont get that sugar high followed by slump effect. or even a juice or yogurt... it definatly works with my ds. hth

ilovecaboose · 21/10/2006 22:29

HAve you thought of trying a cereal bar - organix do some for toddlers that are mostly oats - soft and easy to eat. Or some oats cakes (you can get cheese flavoured ones and similar). Or bowl of cereal. Doesn't have to be big I think as long as it is the right kinda thing.

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PanicPants · 21/10/2006 22:31

When he's in that 'mood' he won't even accept a biscuit, but after a dinner of chicken carrots, raspberries and apple puree he was as happy as can be.

Really think it might be worth looking at his diet around mid afternoon. Thank you all, I would never in a million years had thought of this by myself!

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PanicPants · 21/10/2006 22:34

Thanks for the link caboose, will be off to asda tomorrow!

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lesley1417 · 21/10/2006 23:02

hi my dd was like this too. she's nearly 4 now and things have improved-i can now reason with her.however she's still grumpy after a nap and can take ages to come round.if u think about it quite often adults feel a bit yucky themselves after adaytime sleep.im sure its a similar thing.

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PanicPants · 22/10/2006 19:16

It lasts until they're 4?!!!

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chocolateshoes · 22/10/2006 19:25

What does your DS have for his lunch? From what I've read it seems that he has his main protein at teatime. I read somewhere that it is a good idea to give the main meal with good protein (fish, meat, lentils) at luch time and then easier foods like soups, mash & pasta for tea. This certainly seems to work for DS1 who is the same age as yours. We tend to save some of waht we have in the vening & give it to DS for lunch the following day, & then bulk prepare soups for tea.

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PanicPants · 22/10/2006 20:21

Chocolate shoes, thats also interesting and definitly worth trying.

Today we went out to The Mall at Cribbs Causeway today which is about an hour away. We fed him his dinner there and his 3pm milk WITH one of the cereal bars (no sugar, just oats, apple juice etc)from the link below. He slept all the way home and woke up when I got him out of the car and was a happy wee soul!!

Now I know the circumstances were not the same as outting him down for a nap in his cot at 3pm, but still, it's given me hope!

Will continue to give a high energy snake with the 3pm milk, AND will try to give him his main protein at lunch time not tea time.

Thanks all.

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PanicPants · 22/10/2006 20:22

lol, snack not snake!

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staceym11 · 22/10/2006 20:24

my dd is just 2 but she has this some days and im sure its to do with food as she generally demands yoghurts/strawberrry milk when shes like this.

hope looking at his diet helps!

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PanicPants · 22/10/2006 20:39

Thanks Stacy, it's great to be given something positive to focus on to help him, instead of feeling so frustrated!

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chocolateshoes · 23/10/2006 13:16

keep us up to date with how you get on....good luck!

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PanicPants · 24/10/2006 15:28

Well, it's only been a couple of days, but since I've started making sure he has a healthy snack with his 3pm milk, AND making sure he has protein wit hhis lunchtime meal, things have improved miraculously.

Of course it's too early to tell if it's working or just a coincidence. But still, it's a good sign!

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