2nd dry night for ds 7.4. Is this it?!

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Ds has had very few dry nights in his life, and even fewer of these have been in a row.

At 5 he had his HUGE (surgeon said biggest he'd seen) tonsils and adenoids removed due to sleep apnea.
Dr had mentioned that his brain was so concerned about keeping him breathing, it didn't care if he wee'd but that this would likely resolve itself after surgery.
It did, for 3 nights.

Fast forward a couple of years solid of brick-heavy pants every morning (and occasional wet beds too despite pants), we are on our second morning in a row of bone dry pants.

I don't want to be too outwardly excited at home in front of ds as he can't control it, so I want to be excited here please!

Could this be it, or just a lucky streak?

So, the chart....

Does a dry night without the alarm going off = a gold star?

Ooh, I think so. A dry night is a dry night, I think.

Ds is yet to be woken by his alarm only, and dp is yet to have an alarm go off on his shift.

I feel a bit like stamping my feet at the injustice.

Just to add to the injustice, ds was woken by his alarm last night, although goodness knows how long it had been going off, but he came upstairs and woke me up instead of downstairs to dp who was still up.

Arggghh! One night DP will get it. Seems so unfair - but that is rather good news that it did eventually wake him

Did he remember it at all the next day? DS never did.

Yes he remembered, not sure if that's good then?

I wish I could forget

I'm not sure! It just intrigues me how he could be so apparently lucid and then not remember anything at all. Being woken is definitely very good, though.

How's your sleep going, Egg?

Hi lemon!

Tbh we're not really any further along in the process.
Either he sleeps all night and is dry, or the alarm takes so long to wake him up that he's sodden.

Just waiting for it to click!

I did get my first sleep through dry last night though

The alarm woke ds up so quickly last night that you couldn't tell his pants had any wee in them at all!

He did have some wire-wrapped-round-his-bits issues but we're really excited!

Wowowowowowow!!!!! That is really, really, really fab news, Egg.

Just when you're wondering whether anything IS going to happen - it does.

We had three solid weeks before the change, so your DS is doing brilliantly. Gold star?

Gold star and sweet shop visit after school

Back from Beaver camp. Managed loo trip ok from the tent.

You must be so pleased!

We are! And we're tentatively using the line "hasn't been reliably dry at night for long" instead of "we think he is probably reliably dry at night now". We've also had our first two reduced grocery bills, due to absence of pull-ups.

It's a good place to be - and you'll be there soon, too!

Can't wait, they certainly add up even when we only use whatever is on offer.

How is everyone else getting on?
Are any of you still here?

I wonder if there is anyone out there, silently lurking while waiting for the shriek of an alarm ?

Ha, that made me laugh!

I think it's just us left, hopefully for good reasons

Third dry night in a row last night, quietly hopeful

This is a lovely thread. My ds is not as old as yours he will be 5 in December but we still have heavy sodden pull ups very night and sometimes he wets thru. I have a bedmat under his sheet to prevent the mattress getting wee on it.
He will have a wee at bedtime and in the morning he takes his pull up off and puts pants on himself. But he sleeps like the dead. Which is great but also not great with wees. I'm trying not to worry about it but both mil and my mum have said he should be dry by now, grr. Mil was especially annoying about potty training (he was quite late at 3.5) and says I should just put him in pants. Yep cos I want to change sheets 5 times a night with a baby who still wakes for night feeds. Sorry just feel very judged sometimes. Luckily ds is mostly unaware and not embarrassed by wearing pull ups.
Oh and for anyone else reading the thread I got 3 packs of Huggies dry nites pj pants for about a tender off amazon so always worth checking on there too.
Fingers crossed for your boy egg.

I lurked on this thread when you first posted it.

My DS is 7 1/2yrs. He is a very heavy sleeper and we got a referral 4 months ago. We went for our first appointment and she was lovely. At the appointment we discussed how DS feels about it, (really didn't like it, thought he was stupid :( ) poo issues (he occasionaly got very bad constipation), fluid intake (not enough), urine output (very frequent, up to 18 times a day), how long he goes between wees (not very long but if we were out somewhere he could go for 3 hours without weeing), how we respond to bedwetting (no fuss).

She suggested the following:
Drinks or 150-200ml, drunk in one go, every 1 1/2 to 2 hours during the day with the last one 2 hours before bedtime.
Monitor fluid intake/output for a 24 hour period.
Keep an eye out for constipation and if it is a problem to address it.
Try to increase length of time between wees.

We set a return appointment for 3 months later.

For the first month DS was extremely annoyed about the frequency of drinks. He HATED the monitoring day.

I was very hopeful that it would help. 9 weeks in I was despairing and it had made no difference. I sat down to make some notes ready to take along to the appointment about how it hadn't helped (with the exception of no poo issues). The next morning he as dry. 3 mornings later he'd had 4 dry nights in a row. I got excited and made more notes, then he was wet for the next 3 nights. He was disappointed. I added to the notes again. He then had 5 dry nights. More notes. Another wet night. Another note.

Then he was dry again, followed by another 4. On the next night I heard movement upstairs. I went up to find him sat on the loo. I couldn't believe he was still awake but then realised that he was actually half asleep AND TAKING HIMSELF TO THE LOO. I don't think I have ever, ever been so pleased about someone going to the loo.

He is now on dry night #7 in a row.

Other things that have changed as a result.
He is noticing he is thirsty.
He has reduced toilet trips by about 1/3 and it's still getting better.
His urine output in one go has increased.

It's was a real struggle to get him to stick at it with the drink intake but it really has made a big difference. The nurse had really helped here because she had discussed all the reasons for her action plan with him directly and had asked him how he felt about it. We were able to use this to remind him why we were doing it.

Sorry, this is a bitty post but I have two hyper children telling me jokes!

Quiet every one else knows best don't they?
I have been through phases of being a bit (inwardly) annoyed or upset about it, but it has really helped to remind myself that nobody would choose to wake up soaked in urine and actually, it doesn't really affect our lives at all!
Your ds will get there, the same as all our dc will get there

MyChildren that's a really helpful post!
My ds really struggles to drink much throughout the day, especially at school, even in weather like this which is worrying even without the bedwetting issue!
There just always seems to be something more fun to do despite constant reminders.

For me, right now, things are great, and ds is excited that 7 dry nights means we will try going pant-less.
I must remember to buy some bedmats!

I am excited that 7 dry nights means I can share a bed with dp again!
We are taking it in turns to sleep in his room as our bedrooms are on different floors.

A tenner off amazon!

Thanks egg. I'm sure he will get there, in the meantime I will continue to hunt out Huggies dry nites as cheaply as possible!

The key with the drinks was decent sized (150ml minimum) drinks all in one go.When we saw the nurse on Wednesday for our follow up she said that the fact he was noticing thirst more was a very good sign. It is very common for people who don't drink enough to not feel thirsty. She also said at our first appointment that it is not unusual for her to have to write letters to schools telling them that it is vital that they not only make sure the child has access to drinks at regular intervals but that they remind them to, and make sure they do, drink them. The school part wasn't an issue for us because DS is home educated but with the summer holidays coming up you could use that time. I had to be really hard on him to begin with. It was not much fun but having had the nurse ask him directly how he felt about it I was able to remind him that the only way to change something he didn't like was to do the hard work first. :(

With pj pants DS was starting to really hate wearing them. We don't have a tumble dryer so I was reluctant to go without them until he was reliably dry. In the end I left it up to him to choose each night if he wore them. I did have a plentiful supply of bed mats and we would double layer his bed so if he did wet we could just take off the top layer without much hassle. I also had the problem that while he was really pushing the limits of the largest size of huggies pull ups he was having trouble with eczema flaring up if he wore dry-nites.

One thing I forgot to add is that he also had to double-void his bladder at bedtime, so he would go for a wee once two hours after last drink and then again 1/2 hour later. We fitted that round either stories or by him having some quiet reading time in bed between wees.

Quiet Ignore them. My DS also sleeps very heavily and would wake up sodden in the morning. It is nobody else's business how you choose to handle it.