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2nd dry night for ds 7.4. Is this it?!

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Whereisegg · 26/04/2014 10:48

Ds has had very few dry nights in his life, and even fewer of these have been in a row.

At 5 he had his HUGE (surgeon said biggest he'd seen) tonsils and adenoids removed due to sleep apnea.
Dr had mentioned that his brain was so concerned about keeping him breathing, it didn't care if he wee'd but that this would likely resolve itself after surgery.
It did, for 3 nights.

Fast forward a couple of years solid of brick-heavy pants every morning (and occasional wet beds too despite pants), we are on our second morning in a row of bone dry pants.

I don't want to be too outwardly excited at home in front of ds as he can't control it, so I want to be excited here please!

Could this be it, or just a lucky streak?

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Whereisegg · 05/02/2015 08:13

Lots of luck fresh, lots of alarm using tips on here Smile
lemon will be pleased

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Fresh01 · 15/02/2015 20:34

Ok, so we have got the wet stop alarm and talked it all through, I've offered to sleep in her room etc, put it all on the last 2 nights then tears and she doesn't want it on. Says it is uncomfortable. I've been calm and said it doesn't matter and we will leave it a while but have asked her to wear pull ups again as I need a break from changing the bed 5 times a week. Also thinking the pull-up is like wearing pants to get use to that feeling as she doesn't wear pants otherwise. I know there is no point pushing the issue but any other ideas?

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Whereisegg · 18/02/2015 10:07

Sorry I'm a bit unclear, will she not wear the pull ups either?

Ds wet the bed last night Sad

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Fresh01 · 18/02/2015 13:57

She hasn't worn pull ups at night for over a year (she doesn't like wearing them) but every so often I ask her to wear them for a couple of weeks to give me a break from changing her bed 5 times a week.

I was trying the wet stop alarm clipped to pants under her PJ's.

Fresh01 · 18/02/2015 13:58

In her ideal world she would wear nothing under her pj's.

Fresh01 · 18/02/2015 13:59

Sorry to hear about your DS too. It is a slow frustrating process.....

fortheloveofmike · 18/02/2015 14:17

Hi.. can I join. My ds is 7.2 and has only had the odd dry night with a run of 4 once..he sleeps so deeply and his nappies are so full in the morning. We need to get him to drink more in the day but he just has sips then at tea he has 2 big cups of juice..
Shall save this thread to read through later

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Whereisegg · 18/02/2015 20:05

Hi mike Smile
Hope you find this thread helpful!

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benandhollyonrepeat · 18/02/2015 21:58

lots of great advice on here but wondering if anyone has any advice on our situation...DS is 7.5 and was wet every single night, we tired everything for him, medication from the doctor, the alarm, hypnotherapy etc etc and nothing worked at all for him then he started getting the odd dry night which was amazing. Last August he suddenly became dry at night and we were down to only about one wet night a week at the max. I was soooooo happy for him and so relived the crazy amounts of washing was over. Anyway this lasted until January and suddenly he went back to being wet every night and now some nights it's even twice a night - I feel so down about it all again as I really thought we had cracked it. He is so desperate to be dry but every single night he wakes up in a wet bed. Does anyone have tips or been in a similar situation?? I really don't know what else I can try for him. Sad

soupmaker · 19/02/2015 09:34

I'm just parking here but coming back later to read through. Our DD1 has just turned 7 and is still wet at night. We still use dry-nites and have tried desmomelts which haven't helped. It's all complicated by DD1 having had constipation and an irritable bladder so we are only just managing to keep clean and dry in daytime with medication and routine. (It's been a long, hard 4 years of sheer hell). She's recently had a couple of dry nights and is keen to stop wearing the dry-nights. She's a very deep sleeper too so I'm wondering if an alarm might help. Not sure how I will cope night after night of wet beds - suspect if we try we will need to invest in a washer-dryer.

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Whereisegg · 19/02/2015 11:31

ben will your ds not wear pull ups?
We called them night time pants and showed ds that they went up to age 15 to let him know it wasn't him.
I would really encourage their use for better quality sleep for all concerned!

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Whereisegg · 19/02/2015 11:32

soup we agreed with ds that we would go pant-less after 7 dry nights in a row, can really recommend the wet stop alarm.
We got ours from amazon Smile

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Fresh01 · 19/02/2015 13:20

Soupmaker, I think you and I share a daughter! My DD is just over 7 and along with the deep sleeping and nighttime wetting, we have been seeing a paediatrician for daytime wetting and constipation - not severe constipation but enough for them to feel her bowels push on her bladder. We have just taken her off Desmomelts (2 at bedtime weren't stopping her wetting) and Ditropan. She is still on Movicol.

Not sure how we are going forwards. We got an alarm but won't wear it at the moment.

This thread is great for finding people experiencing the same problems.

benandhollyonrepeat · 19/02/2015 16:08

No he won't go back into pull ups, i keep trying to persuade him, just to give me a break from the washing, but he gets really upset about it. We stopped lifting him about a year ago but I'm tempted to try that again just in the hope of maybe getting a dry night - do you think that's a mistake though?

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Whereisegg · 19/02/2015 16:58

It isn't recommended Sad
Have you tried going through the options with him?
As in we can do x, y, or z but a isn't working anymore.
I'm not too sure what options I would present to your ds but things like
wearing pants x amount of times a week so he is getting proper sleep, getting an alarm (finances allowing), he helps you to re-make his bed in the morning/evening, being responsible for making sure he is drinking more every day.

Are you double sheeting the bed so you can just strip a layer off at a time?
What are his reasons for not wanting to wear pants? Is it the way they feel?
Most brands offer free samples to find some that are comfy.
If it's siblings/people knowing can you offer him absolute privacy morning and evening to get them on/off?

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soupmaker · 19/02/2015 18:50

Hello Fresh. We tried 2 desmomelts too - made not a jot of a difference. I'm often at my wits end with it all. We have a DD2 and I am already panicky about her toilet training and she's only 18 months.

I just wish I could fix everything for DD1. It would make life so much better for all of us, especially her.

Right I'm off to the start of this thread for some reassurance and ideas of where the hell to go from here.

benandhollyonrepeat · 19/02/2015 21:02

DS doesn't want to wear pull ups again as he feels that it's babyish and that it means he has failed as being able to be dry at night. I feel so sorry for him and so wish he didn't have this worry. I have managed to persuade him to wear one tonight, after reading your tips on here about them being for up to age 15 etc and making it private so DD (who is younger and dry at night) doesn't see etc. He has gone to bed wearing one but I now feel guilty for making him wear it knowing it was making him feel like this. I just need a break tonight from being up and down all night and the huge amount of washing in the morning.

Fresh01 · 19/02/2015 21:03

Following what egg said about people knowing, we had visitors last weekend and their DD was sharing DD's room. I spoke with DD and she wanted to wear pull-ups whilst her room was being shared. We agreed a hiding place in the bathroom where she could lock herself in and put it on once her PJ's were on. Then there was a covered bin in the bathroom for her to put it in in the morning. She was happy as she could do it completely in private.

Soup, you can't hold DD2 back from TT because of DD1's problems. My DD with problems is DC2 of 4 children. DC3 trained day and night before the age of 3 with no issues. Only a 2 year age gap between her and him so she wasn't so aware of her problems.
DC4 is 2 years younger again. She day trained last summer at 2.5 and was dry at night before xmas. We removed her pull ups then but she has more accidents in jan and was referring to DD2 wetting the bed so she has been put back in pull ups to stop her talking about it to take any pressure off DD2.
I have talked at length with DD2 about everyone being different and that there will be at least one other person in her class with the same night problems. We have also said this is her "thing", DC3 had to get speech therapy so that was his "thing", DC1 (9) despite previously being a good eater is being fussy at the moment so we are saying that is her "thing" We are trying to say to her everyone has a "thing" they have to work through.

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Whereisegg · 19/02/2015 21:10

Don't feel guilty, it's ok to need a break from sleepless nights after more than 7 years Smile
Can you show him them going up to age 15 in the supermarket? It really helped ds when he had a wobble about them.
As did putting him in charge of them, because it's a big job. He had to make sure he had enough pairs (I would sneakily check), my ds was happy to have them in his drawer but you and your ds could shop for a special basket or box, taking them off needs to be the first job of the day maybe going in a new bin with a lid in his room or a stash of carrier bags, he could occasionally look for special offers online as he is in charge etc etc.

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soupmaker · 20/02/2015 00:05

I've read the whole thread. Fresh, my DD1 does that unable to do a wee before bed thing then half an hour later gets up and does one. No idea what that's all about.

We are in UTI hell again. DD1 came home from school having had two accidents and childminder said she went to the loo about 6 times in the 2 hours she had her. I've just been up with poor DD1 who managed to take off her pull up in her sleep and then wee all over her bed. I know from the smell she's got an infection again so we won't be trying any alarm until she's okay. Fourth UTI since October. It's just so bloody unfair. She drinks loads of water and tries so hard but her damn bladder just won't work for her.

I know I can't hold back DD2 from toilet training but having has such an awful experience with DD1 I'm dreading it.

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Whereisegg · 09/03/2015 14:21

Anyone still about?
Getting on ok?

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soupmaker · 09/03/2015 19:52

I'm here egg. UTI taken 2 weeks to clear. Had 2 dry nights but back to being wet again.

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Whereisegg · 09/03/2015 21:22

Gah Sad

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mychildrenarebarmy · 09/03/2015 21:23

I'm here, when the notifications get through whatever random filtering system my email provider chooses to use on the day.

We now have an alarm and have had it for a week. In fact I have just come down from changing the bed. :( He wasn't fully asleep when I went in to him. I asked him why he hadn't got out of bed and he said "I can't really be bothered." I think we need to work on that most of all but have no idea where to start!

tostaky · 09/03/2015 22:30

Hi, i have not read the whole thread (too long).
I have 3 boys: DS1, 6.5, bedwetting
DS2, 5, day time and night time wetting
DS3, almost 3, dry during the day, still too early for night time dryness i suppose..
I stop wetting my bed at 12 so i am in for the long run..!!!

I havent tried the alarm as they are still young. Maybe in september?
What do you all think about lifting (DS1 and 2 as they refuse to wear nappies)? Shall we stop? Carry on? Does it make a difference? Thanks