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Is it ok to use 'fanny' to describe girls bits to my toddler?

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Vindaloo · 22/08/2006 21:11

My DD is 2 and a half months and I was chatting to a friend about what words to use to describe boys and girls bits??

A friend uses 'nunu' for girls. For some bizaare reason I have started to say 'bits and pieces'!! thats sooo wrong, any suggestions or do you just say fanny??

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xoxoxo · 25/08/2006 09:49

Sorry for those getting upset and frustrated at us not using the correct anatomical titles - but surely childhood is the only time we can enjoy using cutsie euphanisms? So why not?

I call my kids poppet/ pirate/ tiger/ fluffybum and any other 'funny' name that springs to mind. They enjoy it, I enjoy it and it's fun.

They will learn the 'truth' later. That plasticine worms are not edible, that mud cakes are not real cakes, that Santa is really dad with a red coat and that the easter bunny is really nice with garlic and herbs.

Roll your eyes at my fantasy but I for one am all for willies.

Long live willies!

pointydog · 25/08/2006 10:43

Ah, we all like willies, xoxo. But what do you call a girl's genitals?

Or is that what you call tiger and fluffybum?

harpsichordcarrier · 25/08/2006 10:55

yes xoxoxoxo
I think youmay have missed the point a bit.
it is a fkd up world where the majority of women don't know the proper word for their external genitals and where there is no generally recognisable/non vulgar word for the vulva and where I am considered some sort of extremist weirdo for suggesting that we teach girls the right name for the part of their genitals that they can se, that they wipe and wash every day.
I think it says a lot about how we view women's genitals/sexuality that's all

CarolinaMoon · 25/08/2006 10:58

ROFL at 'flower' and 'fairy'

How the hell do any of you know what your kids are on about?? do they mean this or this ? how do you tell?

xoxoxo · 25/08/2006 12:40

hi hsc
I'm not missing the point - just adding my own.
If you want to teach your kids the 'proper' names, then that's great.
I will teach ours but not yet. A time will come in the notsodistant future I'm sure. I promise they will not be like the A level students who are ignorant of their own bodies. I'm not dodging an issue, I'm not being derogratory to women, I'm just having a bit of fun and keeping the 'romance' going as long a little bit longer.

In the meantime the diversity of names is fantastic. And funny. I've heard of some before but there are suggestions that are new to me; some romantic, some graphic.

But never let it be said that MN is not educational!

xoxoxo

riab · 25/08/2006 13:06

xoxoxo, the bit that I don't understand is why you feel its a good idea to teach children names which are 'funny' or 'romantic' for their genitalia? Do you do the same for their arms?

If you single out one area of their body as being something to laugh at, or something which has to be dressed up in cutiepie language you are sending them a message about laughing off / hiding from their sexuality.

pointydog · 25/08/2006 13:13

xoxo, what is your family word for fanny? I wasn't sure if you used a mix of those words you mentioned.

nappyaddict · 25/08/2006 16:17

i read further down that someone told their child wee comes out of the vulva not the vagina... isn't it the urethra?

katierocket · 25/08/2006 16:21

Just call it what it is FGS. What's wrong with its proper name?

xoxoxo · 25/08/2006 16:29

pointydog,
my son , on discovering the obvious, calls it her 'no willie'.

This apparently is tantamount to clubbing baby seals to death, and is symoblic of the downgrading of wimmin everywhere.

Personally I think it both observational and funny. Much as I applaud his wit and intellect (for clearly I have a gifted son) I do not believe a 3 year old is responsible for years of unequal pay, belittling of sahms and nonapprecaition of our sex in general. (although he did go missing for an hour last tuesday...so there is a small chance )

Hopefully dd will retort (when able) that he has 'no boobies'.

will also point out that right now they are playing in the garden: she is Bob the builder and he is Dora the explorer. Sterotypes be damned.

CarolinaMoon · 25/08/2006 16:37

how, er, Freudian of him xoxoxox.

nappyaddict, wee comes out of your urinary meatus.

monkey · 25/08/2006 16:46

what is that then katierocket?

xoxoxo · 25/08/2006 16:51

freudian? He is 3, with all the brutal honesty that a 3 can get away with. He says what he sees.

Unfortunately that also means that he shouts 'that lady has big boobies' in Tescos, and 'that man smells' on the train.

He thinks rain is the clouds crying or peeing depending on how he feels. He thinks farts are fantastic fun. Burps are a close second.

And I think it is fab.

I've had a ponder - this thread has made me think about 'correct' names. We say poo and pee; should we be saying excrement and urine to educate and ensure that bodily functions are natural and not to be giggled at?

pointydog · 25/08/2006 17:22

Ahh, I vaguely remember that now, xoxo. Things were going so fast.

I'm not that bothered what people call it but I do agree it's a shame that there is no all-round acceptable word. I mean, I take it your family has now stuck with 'no-willie' as you had no better word for it yourselves.

harpsichordcarrier · 25/08/2006 17:52

well, effectively wee comes out of (A hole in the )the vulva. to all intents and purposes.

lusciouslynda · 25/08/2006 18:21

I have arrived at this thread late, but so glad I have! PMSL .
xoxo, you have totally said what I think. There's years ahead for getting serious.

Tried to think what words we used when I was growing up but there was none. We never mentioned our bits!!! How sad is that?!

I use front bottom with DD ( who is 3), which is actually a bit of a cop out. My mum would faint if she heard anything else.

After my DD was born by CS my SIL said "at least your flower is still intact" I had NO IDEA what she was talking about. A grown woman, mother of 2, who can't say vagina!!!!!

nappyaddict · 26/08/2006 01:40

o yes meatus is another word for urethra isn't it! i can't believe this thread has turned into discussing the technicalities of a vulva lol. i wonder why so many people think the technical name is vagina when it is vulva though?

NotQuiteCockney · 26/08/2006 02:23

Not perineal raphe - it's the scrotal raphe. As the wiki link (given by Gillian76) makes clear.

pennygaff · 26/08/2006 17:12

My family used, Tuppence for a girl and Gibblets for a boy. Always makes me smile.

pennygaff · 26/08/2006 17:14

xoxoxo, good comment lol.

NotQuiteCockney · 26/08/2006 18:07

The best argument against "cute" names for these things came up in another of these threads (do we need a "what word do you use for 'women's bits' section?"), when someone told the story of a girl who'd reported to her teacher that her uncle touched her lily. The teacher had no idea what the girl was talking about, and did nothing. Later it became obvious that lily was the girl's word for vulva. If she'd been using the right word, her uncle would have been stopped a lot earlier.

muma3 · 26/08/2006 18:10

we use fannyanne , nice and polite and a bit obvious if the worst was to happen regarding nqc comment
boy is willywonky

xoxoxo · 26/08/2006 23:06

nqc: what a horrible story.

But what a mistake. Don't know about you but if I heard any sentence starting with 'my uncle touched my ..' then my shackles would be up. I think I would even guess that a 'lily' may be something an uncle should not be touching.

More cute words in general use:
'bellybutton' = umbilica
'tummy' = stomach
'poo' = excrement/ small bear with penchane for honey
'wee'/ 'whizz' = urine
'windybottom' = farts
'tummypop' = burps

see - not limited to genetalia. Just a bit of fun.

xoxoxo

goldendelicious · 26/08/2006 23:27

OMG NQC thats terrible.

Making me stop and think about 'names'. Call DS's a willy or a winky but the thought of someone not knowing what he was talking about in THAT sort of respect frightens me. I would say Willy is a widely used and 'understood' word - does anyone disagree with that? Want to play it safe cos you just never know I suppose

horsecrazy · 26/08/2006 23:41

late arriver to this thread.....but I use "Minnie-moo" for my girls and I use "Wiggy" for my boy