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Shocked about what ds's friend aged 6 can't do ...

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Easy · 24/02/2006 17:51

Today We took ds's friend (well his girlfriend, according to him) for an outing, our first time with this friend. Now I know my ds is advanced for 6 (everyone tells me so), but I was shocked to find that she
a) is unable to fasten a car seatbelt herself (her mum put her in my car as we went, she couldn't fasten it herself for the return journey)
b) Doesn't know when her birthday is, beyond being able to say "It's a long time to my birthday"
c ) can't identify the months of the year, and doesn't know it is February now.

Also can't understand why I corrected the phrase " I don't want no chips", altho' I recognise this may be acceptable language at her house.

My son has fastened his own seatbelt since just after his 5th birthday, has a complete grasp of the calendar, and has been able to tell people his birthday date since 3 y.o.

He can now tell the time (altho' won't admit it, he's too sly).

Are my expectations too high and the girlfriend is average for 6, or is his friend "a bit behind"

I'm genuinely curious about this one

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fastasleep · 25/02/2006 10:58
Elibean · 25/02/2006 10:59

Fastasleep, pmsl.....electrocution.....

izzybiz · 25/02/2006 11:00

Fgs! the child is six. does it really matter how she said she didnt want any chips?
Is it really that important to you?

Greensleeves · 25/02/2006 11:02

I couldn't give a monkeys about her or her chips... I am interested in linguistics though.

fastasleep · 25/02/2006 11:03

I'll stick wi' chips, uur too confusing youu arrr, the lorra yer!

Elibean · 25/02/2006 11:05

Chips....omg, I'm hungry...its only 11am fgs

NotQuiteCockney · 25/02/2006 11:11

Chaucer was quite big on the double negative. It did used to be standard English, although, granted, quite a while ago. I don't think double negatives go against any of the basic grammatical rules.

It's true that in French the double negative consists of "ne" and "pas" or "plus" or "jamais" or whatever. But colloquially, of course, they just use "pas".

Potty1 · 25/02/2006 11:26

Gordon Bennett! - Yoos lot gettin yer knickers in a twist. Get thee sell up t' Stoke and sees ow we towk up 'ere. Yay avin a 'larf!

Greensleeves · 25/02/2006 11:30

I am from Stoke

Potty1 · 25/02/2006 11:50

Wey up Greensleeves Just noticed a grammatical error in my post - that should be laff not larf!

Where you from?

drosophila · 25/02/2006 11:52

But do you think Chaucer could buckle a seat belt????

Greensleeves · 25/02/2006 12:01

Lived in Longton for ages when I was a kid, but really from Newcastle under Lyme! You?

expatinscotland · 25/02/2006 12:09

Glad you never babysat for Einstein, apparently he couldn't even talk until he was 5.

TBH when I look after other kids what I notice is their nature, the type of person they are.

As for 'I don't want no chips', coming from the Southern US, that just makes me laugh. Hung around WAY too many PhD-level engineers who regularly used double negatives whilst sitting in a pick-up truck in the drive-through queue at KFC . 'Do y'all have any of that gravy there to go w/mah biscuits, pleeze?'

Elibean · 25/02/2006 12:12

I was born in Newcastle u. Lyme left before I could talk, though, pity.

bundle · 25/02/2006 12:13

I'm shocked that anyone would know exactly when their child began to fasten their own seatbelt.

Elibean · 25/02/2006 12:13

Hey, Expat...I have long wanted to understand 'biscuits' US-style: can you explain, pleeze, Ma'am?

singersgirl · 25/02/2006 12:15

Cor! Glad I've been away from this post. But NotQuiteCockney has said everything I would have said much better than I would have said it.

The Norway/Sweden example was one I was going to use in my first post, but it got too long.....

The point I was trying to make was that the little girl had just learned the dialect spoken in her home, rather than 'not learned English correctly'. At some point at school she will be taught the standard English alternative to the dialect she speaks, and she will probably learn when to use it, if she wants.

Er...And children differ enormously in their interest and motivation for learning things like months of the year and telling the time. DS2 is much more interested in practical stuff like that than DS1 ever was, so will learn it earlier.

expatinscotland · 25/02/2006 12:17

'That there gravy sure is mighty fine'.

One of my dad's work colleagues was a TOTAL brainbox from the backwaters of Alabama who got his PhD from a really prestigious 'institoot of higher ED-oo-ca-TION', as he said it. MIT - Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

He hung his framed sheepskin degree over the toilet in the downstairs loo so everyone would see it 'That there degree cost a mint, so I'm gonna make damn sure everyone sees it an' all.'

My BIL has a master's in engineering and works for NASA outside of Houston, but he is a 'hick' to the core and to hear him talk you'd think he was uneducated as all get out. He refers to DH as 'Scottish boy'.

expatinscotland · 25/02/2006 12:18

Biscuits in the US are scones w/o the sugar.

Potty1 · 25/02/2006 12:24

Originally from Cobridge (a proper potter!) - now in Baddeley Green via Bucknall.

They talk posh in Newcastle

expatinscotland · 25/02/2006 12:25

You should hear 'em up here, Potty . Especially once you get a few drinks into 'em. Even the poshest one will lapse into 'aye'.

Elibean · 25/02/2006 14:39

Scones without sugar? Definitely need gravy with 'em. Thanks for explaining, ExP.

mumeeee · 25/02/2006 15:23

Children develop at differant rates. A lot of 6 year olds wouldn't be able to identify the momts of the year. Also a lot of six year olds would still need help with seatbelts.
She is probably able to do other things that your son can not do.
So yea I think your expectations are a litle to high.

donnie · 25/02/2006 16:19

well, I do A level Eng lit marking for EDEXCEL every year and I MARK DOWN CLUMSY GRAMMAR.So do the other markers. We are paid well for this.

So there !!!!!

NotQuiteCockney · 25/02/2006 16:30

Donnie, of course you do. English papers should be in Standard English, and by the rules of Standard English, this is bad grammar. Obviously. Nobody is doubting that.

(Do kids really try to write in txtspk for these sorts of things? They don't, do they?)