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Welsh baby names that work in England

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Mammina · 23/01/2009 16:58

Ok, please let me know your honest opinions on these:-

Boys
Iolo (pronounced Yollo - going off this a bit though as there seem to be many about)
Peris (pronounced Perrys - with a hard S)
Cerion (pronounced Cerryon)
Twm
Tecwyn, Tecs for short
Telor
Pabo (pronounced Pabbo)
Gwion (pronounced Gweeon)
Caleb (pronounced Khaleb not Cayleb)
Brinli (pronounced Brynley)
Ioan

Girls
Manon
Caia (pr. Kaya)
Anona (pr Anonna) or Nona
Awela
Dilys
Iola (pr Yolla)
Marion

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runningmonkey · 23/01/2009 17:16

Some lovely names here and I am currently going thro the same conversations with dh.
I agree with the poster who said that in a big city you can prob get away with more unusual names than in smaller towns. Are you prepared for your ds/dd to have a lifetime of spelling out their name tho (this is what my dh is cocnerned about)

Some of the names we're thinking of are evan, dylan and huw for boys and heulwen and tesni for girls.

Oh yeah and There are quite a lot of non welsh calebs around where I live (e anglia)

Ps sorry about rubbish capitals on phone!

MrsMattie · 23/01/2009 17:16

I have always liked Sian for a girl.

Mammina · 23/01/2009 17:17

Can't use Ianto, close friend has it. Can't use Eluned either but love it (well, prefer Luned)
is Taryn male or female
LOL about Peris, that's exactly what my DP said. Guess that's out then

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Mammina · 23/01/2009 17:20

Running monkey I love Evan but can't use it, nor can we use Dylan. Wouldn't Heulwen get mis-pronounced?
I've had a lifetime (well, from age 18 onwards) of having to spell my name and yes it's annoying but you do it automatically after a while.

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Jacksmama · 23/01/2009 17:25

Dafydd = David?

Gwynedd/Gwyneth?

TinkerBellesMumandFiFi2 · 23/01/2009 17:26

I have a Sîan, it's not common in England but it still works and most people manage to say it - although she was called Sean last week

mileniwmffalcon · 23/01/2009 17:27

of your lists i like manon and gwion best. many english people know manon as a french name, if not welsh.

i think the others are a bit full on tbh, fine if you're in wales and surrounded by people familiar with the names and sounds, but if no-one around you knows them you'll get lots of mispronunciation, which to me would begin to grate.

runningmonkey · 23/01/2009 17:27

Yeah dh isn't convinced by heulwen either. I love olwen for a girl too (could shorten to oli) but it might be a bit old ladyish

Have remembered some of the other boy names on our list too - hwyel, owen, gwylim, gwyn and Iestyn is a current fave of dh

Mammina · 23/01/2009 17:29

I think everyone associates Dafydd with little britain now though, so that's out I'm afraid
Gwynedd for a boy ok, not so keen on gwyneth for some reason
Tinker I do like Sian... at Sean

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chancelloroftheexchequers · 23/01/2009 17:30

Owain? I love that.

mileniwmffalcon · 23/01/2009 17:31

heulwen is lovely. i pondered over aelwen for a very long time but in the end decided it was a bit too lord of the rings

but it's the vowel sounds in those names that make them so pretty imo, so hearing people get it wrong on a daily basis would bother me.

llareggub · 23/01/2009 17:32

I've come across an Osian in a fairly rural village. No one in our Sing and Sign class had a problem with it.

I have a Iestyn, although it is his middle name so problems there either. For DS2 we are considering Aneurin, but Nye of course.

mileniwmffalcon · 23/01/2009 17:33

anwen's pretty, not that easy to get wrong.

Mammina · 23/01/2009 17:33

really mileniwm, full on? it's so bloomin hard. but am glad you like manon & gwion, they are two of my faves. Do you think Manon can be used with a surname beginning with M?

RM Olwen is a nice name (& Oli cute), agree about old ladyish but if you live in England nobody will know that. I do know a 2 year old Olwen though so it may be coming back into fashion.
I like Owen, it was my taid's name (Owie for short)

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Mammina · 23/01/2009 17:36

love Osian but friend has little boy called that - it's so annoying there aren't any names left for me bec I'm fairly old having kids!
Owain nice too but don't you think English people would have trouble pronouncing it?

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mileniwmffalcon · 23/01/2009 17:36

i definitely wouldn't rule it out just cos of 2 ms, but maybe see how well they roll together. it seems to be one of those comeback names here atm, i've met a few baby manons

SoMuchToBits · 23/01/2009 17:37

Not if they've seen Fireman Sam - Norman Price's imaginary friend is called Owain! Also there was a famous conductor called Owain Arwel Hughes a few years ago.

llareggub · 23/01/2009 17:37

I was just about to say Owain!

I live in England and although it is fairly rural around here, there is quite a bit of diversity so lots of names that people find difficult to pronounce. I'd find a name you like and go for it anyway.

SoMuchToBits · 23/01/2009 17:38

I like Eleri for a girl, but think it would probably get mispronounced in England.

TinkerBellesMumandFiFi2 · 23/01/2009 17:39

My mum decided we were having a Welsh name, migola, she listed loads and we turned Myfanwy down for the same reason as Daffyd. Her mum came round later and started listing names, got to Myfanwy and Mum and I said in unison "the only lesbian in the village".

I couldn't have Daffyd anyway, it was my first boyfriend was from my grandparents village :-S

mileniwmffalcon · 23/01/2009 17:40

you'll get "owen" for owain but that's not too bad i reckon. compare that to the names that end in -o. not sure i've ever heard them pronounced properly by (non-welsh speaking) english people e.g. guto harri, it's always "oh" not "o."

lol it must be the season for these impossible to describe in writing pronunciation discussions! (i changed my username in deference to one yesterday)

Mammina · 23/01/2009 17:41

Mileniwm where abouts are you? The only manons I know are in their 30s (but I haven't lived in wales for about 15 years)
fireman sam hasn't got to this household yet... leaning towards owain now, owie for short like my taid

of course all of this will be out the window when i discuss it with DP as he wants Jack or Emily!

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Mammina · 23/01/2009 17:43

ha ha tinker!
Also like Eleri but already have a DD beginning with E plus think it would get mispronounced
v. true about O endings but think I can sort of live with that

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runningmonkey · 23/01/2009 17:43

Ooh eleri is lovely! I teach three sisters called eleri, cerian and sian doesn't seem to be any prob with pronounciation in school.

moshie · 23/01/2009 17:48

I know a Manon with a surname beginning with M and it's fine, lovely name, lovely girl. She's 11.

Boys names more difficult I think, lots of potential pronunciation problems. I like Rhys.