Tesni Ffion or Mabli Mai

[RoseApp]

Posting for a friend who is Welsh but lives in England at the moment.

Tesni Ffion
Tesni Mai
Mabli Mai
Mabli Elen

Or so people have other favourite Welsh names?

Oh not just me then! I generally have good vocabulary! And a decent grasp of Welsh names

Completely agree!

Fun to learn a new (albeit old and obsolete) word though, maybe we can resurrect it

Well, I'm delighted to have had my vocabulary expanded.

I am planning to use apricity, hiemal and subnivean as much as possible! And brumation.

Sitzmark I did know, and snowbird (though hadn't realised it could mean cocaine addict, too...)

I've just done an Advanced search on apricity on Mumsnet and the result was 2500.

I'll try and slip apricity into conversation before winter ends 😁
Sounds like a good name for a cocktail

Rhiannon.

That's including similar words like April. 2500 matches would be very surprising 😁

Try searching for "apricity" with speech marks to find exact matches.

Anyway, sorry for the derail OP and good luck with choosing a name!

@RoseApp , what sort of other names would your friend be interested in? Is she after a Welsh name

• because they are culturally Welsh
• as a nod to their Welsh heritage
• that won't be said in more than one way
• that seems current in Wales
• that's easy to say and spell

etc?

Do they speak Welsh at home?
Would they mind if the name was said in an anglicised way by people? (e.g. Lowri)
Would they be ok with names that aren't specifically Welsh but would be acceptable as Welsh names.
Does it have an unusual surname it needs to go with?

Hi I think more of a nod to Welsh roots with the view that they will move back there at some point: I think they are from South Wales originally but not fluent Welsh speakers

Thanks everyone. Connect duly passed on and I’ve learnt a few new words too :)

Well… I’m French and that is the first thing that came to mind when reading the thread title. And I can guarantee that any French person will immediately wonder why on earth someone called their child ‘anus’. Not only same prononciation but v close spelling (Ffion vs Fion). And it is a very rude way of designating the anus.

Thanks. The two names they were asking about are fine, but I'd go a bit more daring with the middle name, when any misspelling/mispronunciation not going to be a huge problem.

If they spoke Welsh at home, I could offer a few first names I really like, but they might not work in England. (e.g. Non, Nêst, Mallt, Mair, ...)

Something like Gwen should be fairly 'starbucks-proof' but Ffion will be mixed up with Fionn.

If they like -i names - Lili, Nansi, Elsi, Anni, Loti, Betsi, Beti, Cadi, Mali, Mari, Cari, Casi, Lowri, Glesni, Ceri , Sali, Eleri ...

Names that aren't strictly Welsh but acceptable: Lois (pron Loyce), Leah (pron. Leia), Ruth, Sara, Cara, Megan, Erin, Ann, Arwen...

** I don't like 1 syllable middle names because they seem to be everywhere.

e.g. Elin Haf, Efa Mai, Gwenno Fflur, Ela Grug

** Names like Eira, Angharad and Rhiannon don't sound very nice anglicised IMO.

But lots of names are like that, or derived from words that mean those things.

@Notellinganyone Like what?

I have always liked Anwen, Ceridwen and Angharad

Not one of the combos but I like Mabli Ffion

Mabli is getting very popular at the moment though where I live in wales if that bothers her. I also like

Cadi, Eluned, Arianwen, Anni, Eira, Carys, Alys and Nia

Literally "fion" - ass/asshole!

But ops friend doesn’t live in France so I really don’t think it matters. I know loads of Ffions

No it doesn't matter to OP one bit.

I was replying to the pp who speaks French but hadnt heard of the word.

Yes, I wasn't denying it, just agreeing with others that I haven't heard it. I think it must be the spelling that's the same and the pronunciation completely different.

I don't like those. What about Mared or Mali?

@pinkdelightelight please don't assume that no one has heard of the word apricity before. Some if us have

-wen names seem really dated. They were fashionable about 85 years ago a bit like how names like -een and -ette names were.

Angharad became very popular but gets anglicised as Anharrud - ugh! Overused as a middle name.

Ceridwen is an old name but sounds like Cridwen is Welsh (it's Kerr-ID-wenn)
Dwynwen (the dwyn rhymes with twin) and Branwen are nice but might not work in England.

Wynn(e) is a surname not a girl's name. Wyn as a middle name is very 1960s/70s.

@BitterTits , I like both, and Malen.