Judas/Judah and is it too similar to a family name?

[est09]

I am obsessed with the name Jude and have been since I was young. However, I have a cousin called Jude, so if I was to name a son Jude, I would likely choose a longer name: Judah or Judas. I also love nicknamey names. I am aware of all the negative connotations with Judas, but myself I’m not very educated on Christianity, despite being religious. I’d assume Judas is straight away a no-go - but is it the same with Judah? Also, is there even any harm in calling him just Jude, as it’s not like I’m naming two children Jude, it’s my cousin who has the name already.

Judas is a hard no.

Judah has positive connotations in Biblical terms (strength, leadership) etc.

You could name him Judah and call him Jude.

Or you could just give your baby the name you really like. Option 2 makes more sense to me.

Congratulations.

Jude . Judas is a terrible idea . Judas Iscariot betrayed Christ and then his bowels burst open and he bled to death in a field . Also, to call someone Judas is to call them a traitor. I like Jude, but it does make me think of the gloomy Thomas Hardy book . Plus every teacher of a certain age will sing “Hey Jude…” to him. How about Joseph / Joe or Jonah ?

This.

Traitor.

Do you actually have a son, or is this hypothetical?

You can't believe serious - absolutely No for Judas- this would be a terrible burden for a poor child

No to Judas.

I like the name "Jude" but I have also read Hardy's "Jude the Obscure"...

Why do so many people on MN not know the difference between diminutives and nicknames.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3827133-To-wonder-why-mumsnetters-dont-know-the-difference-between-diminutives-and-nick-names

They're just not as amazing as you sadly.

My cousin gave her son the same name as my brother and it's caused nothing but confusion ever since.

Judah is a nice name and I know 2 toddlers with that name, so it's clearly not too out there. With that said, both of the families are religious (Christian) although not excessively so. I think there is a mini-trend of quite biblical names (e.g. Ezra) that it would fit into. I wouldn't pick this name if you are opposed to religion and will get annoyed if people assume you are religious, but it's definitely usable unlike Judas.

That said I think it's fine to use Jude too! Or Jude as nn for Judah.

Just call him Jude. There is no name copyright.

Yes, just name him Jude. Cool name!

Tell your cousin that you just love the name. In fact, say:

'Hey, Jude don't let me down...'

And then you'll begin to make it better, better, better better...

All together now...

Why would your cousin who is c presumably an adult be offended if you said ' I love your name so much I want to call my baby Jude'? It's not an insult and they arent off the same generating. My DS and my cousin's DS have the same name ( he uses his middle name so Id forgotten). They love having the same name, and the older one always makes a beeline for him as they have the same name. Re Judas I know you said you dont know much about Christianity. He was one of the disciples, betrayed Jesus for money and then killed himself. You cant really influct that name on a child!
St Jude is the Patron Saint of hopeless causes, but hes kind our family ' saint'. Not sure why. All the boys on my mothers side of the family have Jude somewhere in their name.

Judah - fine
Jude like his cousin - fine
Jonah - fine
Judas - definitely not fine.

I know a Joss, short for Josiah which is also fine.

Basically anything except Judas.

I wouldn't use Judas because it is sometimes used as a negative word, even by people who aren't religious. I think I like Jude better than Judah, and I don't think a child having the same name as their parent's cousin is automatically a problem (how often will they be in the same place at the same time?) One of my DH's cousins gave one of her sons his name, but I don't think it was specifically after him, it's a common name where they all come from. On the rare occasions where they are all together it's easy enough to call one of them (imaginary example) Iain D or little Iain.

On a lighthearted note, I know of a family with a Josh and a Joshy, but I don't think that would really work with Jude!

No need for that.

My brother and one of our first cousins have the same first name. It has never been an issue.

As kids, they were known as 'Big Dave' and 'Little Dave' (not the real name!) because there was only a couple of years between them. But now as adults they are just known by their name and it's no problem.

If you like the name Jude, call him Jude.

Another vote for calling him Jude.

@LadySuzanne made a valid point, @KaleidoscopeSmile . Your reply was rude and uncalled for.

A nickname is something like Penelope being called Tuppence.
Penny short for Penelope is a diminutive.

@est09 , how about Judea?

I suppose it depends how close you are with your cousin and whether he and baby Jude would have the same surname. Personally I barely see my cousins and we don't share a surname so it wouldn't be an issue.

This!!! I'd not bat an eyelid at 2 Judes in the same family, but I would totally judge a Judas. And I'm far from religious.

Jonah?

No she didn't headmistress, she was being superior and pedantic about other MN users.

I’m not religious in the slightest but would be gobsmacked if a child was called Judas. I think that they would suffer a lifetime of people being suspicious of them. It’s as bad as naming brothers Cain and Abel. I’ve never read the bible but know enough to be shocked at that choice.

My mate is Jeremiah and we call him Jude. I don’t know if it’s a formal nn for Jeremiah, but there you go. Don’t call him Judas.

@KaleidoscopeSmile , Do you realise that you are coming across as rude and ignorant?
It's headteacher not headmistress.