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Family trying to put us off a name

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lookingforanamex · 05/10/2025 13:45

Trying to choose a name for DD2. Been really struggling to find anything we like. We like Liliana (‘-ana’ would be pronounced ‘-anna’ in our area’s accent) but DP’s 10 year old niece has a name ending in -anna (double n) but the start of the name is different.

Family also commonly call niece by her nickname, which is the start of her name, so we thought they might do the same with our baby, and call her Lily for short which would mean there was no similarity at all.

When family asked about our name ideas, MIL was indignant that we couldn’t use ‘niece’s name’.

Later, SIL started sending name ideas to us and asking our opinion so we assume she didn’t like the idea either.

A week later, on the wider family group chat, DP was asked again what names are on the list and Liliana was on there. The next morning, MIL called DP to tell him that niece had now been crying that baby cousin will be stealing her name. Niece isn’t in the group chat and wouldn’t put it past MIL/SIL to plant this idea with her to guilt trip DP and I.

Are we out of order for considering a name that ends in the same sound?

If we are, has anyone got any ideas for other names we might like? Feeling pretty gutted tbh.

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lookingforanamex · 05/10/2025 17:04

StewkeyBlue · 05/10/2025 16:52

I don’t believe for one moment that the niece was crying.

And any responsible parent would tell her not to be ridiculous, the name is different and her cousin can be called whatever the parents decide.

This is a problem caused by discussing names before birth, and especially ever asking an opinion.

Exacerbated by ridiculously hysterical ILs.

Tell them to calm down and back off.

That would have been how I’d have dealt with it if DD1 was crying about a cousin’s name, plus some positivity like a PP mentioned.

But when you say about asking their opinion - we didn’t, just replied when they asked what names we were considering. My first reaction would never have been ‘we don’t want to discuss it’ as to me that would’ve been making a big deal out of sharing name ideas and I (naively) thought it wasn’t a big deal. I didn’t think to say ‘we haven’t got any ideas yet’ for the same reason.

Tbh, I have a strong feeling that they would have had something to say on this even if we’d told them baby’s name once she’d arrived.

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TurraeaFloribunda · 05/10/2025 17:08

DuchessOfNarcissex · 05/10/2025 14:43

@TurraeaFloribunda , I can’t think of any UK accent where it would would sound like “anna”. Much of the UK has accents where vowels are short (bath rhyming with math). - People in northern counties, Scotland and Wales will say it the same as Lily-Anna.

I’m pretty sure there isn’t a UK accent that doesn’t have both a long and short form of vowels eg although math and bath might rhyme in some accents, the a sound in father doesn’t.

GiraffesAtThePark · 05/10/2025 17:10

Skybluepinky · 05/10/2025 15:38

Sounds like both yourself and family are causing issues.
You are using a stupid pronunciation to wind them up and them taking the bait.

It’s not stupid. A few people have already said that’s how it’s pronounced where they come from.

DuchessOfNarcissex · 05/10/2025 17:12

TurraeaFloribunda · 05/10/2025 17:08

I’m pretty sure there isn’t a UK accent that doesn’t have both a long and short form of vowels eg although math and bath might rhyme in some accents, the a sound in father doesn’t.

You sure about that? It's pretty short where I come from.

Hohumdedum · 05/10/2025 17:12

In theory it shouldn't matter what they think. Not their baby, not the same name. I'd refuse to discuss names further with them.

I quite like the Lily Anna idea!

But if it's spoiled it for you now, just keep looking. There are a million lovely girl names, you may find your baby doesn't suit Liliana anyway, it's true that you might get annoyed with the alternative pronunciation, plus Lily (or variants) are really common and popular if that matters to you. I know loads of children with Lily type names.

JaquelineHide · 05/10/2025 17:13

They are being ridiculous

ThatWorthyAquaFox · 05/10/2025 17:14

If you're going to end up calling her Lilly then just call her that.

WhamBamThankU · 05/10/2025 17:16

You seem set on it so why prolong this?

CaptainCallisto · 05/10/2025 17:17

TurraeaFloribunda · 05/10/2025 14:25

You aren’t stealing anyone’s name 🙄

Although, Liliana is usually pronounced as Lil-ee-ah-na not Lily-anna, so it is a bit strange to pronounce it that way to make it rhyme with your niece’s name 🤷‍♀️ I can’t think of any UK accent where it would would sound like “anna”.

It would be even weirder if your niece’s name is Rosanna, as if you had deliberately chosen to pronounce Liliana as Lily-anna to match Rose-anna.

But it’s none of their business what you call your DD.

I've only ever heard it pronounced the way the OP is planning; never with the ahna rather than Anna, and I've known a few (Yorkshire, Dorset, and Cumbria). Potentially regional differences, but it's definitely not as standard as your comment implies.

DuchessOfNarcissex · 05/10/2025 17:18

@CaptainCallisto ,that poster has probably not been further north than Watford Gap.

Edenmum2 · 05/10/2025 17:24

lookingforanamex · 05/10/2025 14:59

Ok so to get the clearest responses, her name is Pollyanna and family call her Pol 90% of the time. Not sure if there’s a way to delete the thread later(?) but don’t think family use Mumsnet as a regular thing (maybe an auntie but hey). If they do read this then I hope they take from it that if we weren’t bothered about upsetting any of them we wouldn’t be thinking twice about what to call our own daughter.

Definitely agree that name chat needs to stop from now on, maybe was naive to respond to the questions, we offered our ideas when asked to be polite.

Does knowing niece’s name change opinions at all?

the names are nowhere near similar, they are being ridiculous. Name her whatever you like.

lookingforanamex · 05/10/2025 17:30

WhamBamThankU · 05/10/2025 17:16

You seem set on it so why prolong this?

We would have been set on it if not for MIL’s reaction hence the thread.

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LuckyNumberFive · 05/10/2025 17:34

TurraeaFloribunda · 05/10/2025 17:08

I’m pretty sure there isn’t a UK accent that doesn’t have both a long and short form of vowels eg although math and bath might rhyme in some accents, the a sound in father doesn’t.

I'm pretty sure my northern Irish mam would disagree with you.

Think it's the same in most (all?) of Scotland.

lookingforanamex · 05/10/2025 17:35

ThatWorthyAquaFox · 05/10/2025 17:14

If you're going to end up calling her Lilly then just call her that.

We would call her Liliana in general and Lily on the odd occasion, family usually shorten names and would do it with whatever name we chose.

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Startthecar · 05/10/2025 18:11

Reading your post, I made a guess as to what your dp's niece's name could be, and I think that the family is being ridiculous suggesting that your DD can't have a totally different name that ends with a n a instead of a n n a, with each of the names beginning with a name that can be stand alone.

I would suggest that you name DD whatever name you choose, including Liliana, which is a very pretty name.

However you know your family better and if it's going to cause real problems going forward you'll either have to change the name and feel resentful or keep the name and keep your distance.

DuchessOfNarcissex · 05/10/2025 18:18

@Startthecar , OP has posted the DN's name and they are as close as Arabella and Isabella or Susanna and Rosanna.

lookingforanamex · 05/10/2025 18:33

Startthecar · 05/10/2025 18:11

Reading your post, I made a guess as to what your dp's niece's name could be, and I think that the family is being ridiculous suggesting that your DD can't have a totally different name that ends with a n a instead of a n n a, with each of the names beginning with a name that can be stand alone.

I would suggest that you name DD whatever name you choose, including Liliana, which is a very pretty name.

However you know your family better and if it's going to cause real problems going forward you'll either have to change the name and feel resentful or keep the name and keep your distance.

Yes niece is called Pollyanna and our daughter would be Liliana if we go with it. Someone said about how they both have 4 syllables and ‘-llyanna’ sounding the same as ‘-liana’. Pollyanna is more often than not called Pol by family though and no doubt they would call our daughter Lily in the same way.

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StewkeyBlue · 05/10/2025 19:04

I know it’s difficult but it’s still ok to say to MIL “Pol : Polly is nothing like Lily so we see no problem with our choice and I hope you will come to love the name”. And ask your DH to speak to his sister and suggest she tells her Dd the same and asks that the situation be de-escalated.

Unless there is another name you love you will always resent the way they treated you and kaiboshed your name for your darling daughter.

roshi42 · 05/10/2025 20:02

Lilian? Or Lily-Anne?

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 05/10/2025 20:18

DuchessOfNarcissex · 05/10/2025 18:18

@Startthecar , OP has posted the DN's name and they are as close as Arabella and Isabella or Susanna and Rosanna.

And absolutely nothing wrong with cousins having names that close sounding. Or even - shock horror - the exact same!
Who cares! Tell them to jog on 😂x

Topseyt123 · 05/10/2025 20:20

It's none of anyone else's business.

Ignore them totally and use whichever name you like. If anyone sulks then tell them to bugger off.

This sort of bollocks is why we never discussed names with family or friends before naming the baby at birth. Then just present a fait accompli. We weren't inviting the opinions of others.

lookingforanamex · 05/10/2025 20:46

Topseyt123 · 05/10/2025 20:20

It's none of anyone else's business.

Ignore them totally and use whichever name you like. If anyone sulks then tell them to bugger off.

This sort of bollocks is why we never discussed names with family or friends before naming the baby at birth. Then just present a fait accompli. We weren't inviting the opinions of others.

“This sort of bollocks” 😂how I wish I had the bollocks to just say that to MIL!

Seriously though if we go on to have a third we’ve both firmly learned our lesson - anyone asks about name ideas and we’ll be avoiding the topic.

Interesting that there are loads of opinions that this shouldn’t be an issue and also some opinions saying the names are too close. I did really think it’d go all one way or the other. At least I’m reassured it comes down to what side of the fence you land on rather than there being a right or wrong.

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tiredangry · 05/10/2025 20:49

Use Lily, call her Lily-anna as a nickname?

Family sound deranged though

zebrastripesarefun · 05/10/2025 20:54

Call your baby what you want. Why would you not choose a name just because someone else has the same or similar sounding name. Neice should be glad new baby will have a similar name.

butterdish93 · 05/10/2025 21:04

I love the name. Don’t worry what your mil thinks.

f you want people to pronounce it as Anna you should spell it lillyanna though not ana.