How would you pronounce this name Kaelan or Kaylan

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We have finally found the name we are wanting to call our son.

I love the spelling “Kaelan” pronounced “Kay- Lan” but I am worried people would call him “KEE-LAN”

or do we have to make it obvious for people and spell it out as “Kaylan”

Or name of the male speaker of the house.
Rowan - Atkinson and Williams are both male.

OP

I know it is snobbery but as an ex teacher, when you see certain names on a register you do think of other children with that name you have taught.

Yes it is wrong, but it is also human nature.

@Emanwenym and to be honest the other names you listed (Courtney etc) are just fairly regular normal names.
I can't imagine I'd think much. Maybe wonder if they are male or female but I have a unisex name so I have had that my whole life.

Who puts their complete full name on their CV?
I'd probably just put my name as "Mrs Princess Surname".

@Needmorelego , If I told you I play Scrabble would you get it?

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Why would you put Mrs?

Nope..... don't get that I'm afraid.
If it's a joke.... it's lost on me 🙂

@Emanwenym Mrs is my title.
I like being called Mrs.

I expect most people put their full name on a CV. I wouldn't, however, expect to see Mrs.

I have never put my full name on a CV or job application.
Surely middle names only need to be known when it comes to filling out the official paperwork for the contract/wages etc.
First Name. Surname. (and I don't have a problem with my title).

@Needmorelego , I just put my name. Their lookout if they assume that Eman Wenym is a bloke.

If someone put their title, I'd think they were newlywed.

What if their title was Miss, Ms, Dr or Mr? Would you think they're newlywed?
Ok.... forget the title thing. Do people really put their full middle names on a CV?

I'd think 'why have they put their title on it?'

Some people use their middle names some don't.
I just put short form of 1st name and surname- something like Abi Smith not The Hon. Abigail Camilla Honoria Wenym-Smith.

It reminds me of the medical treatment kaolin, so I'd avoid. (It sounds like a chav name.)

You can!

@Emanwenym so "Princess Surname" then (going with the very long name someone suggested).
I might slightly role my eyes at the name "Princess" but that's not the persons fault their parents chose that.
I mean there's a daughter of a celebrity called Princess and as far as I know she goes to a fancy private school - so if potential employers are going for the "old boy network" concept then surely her school name would show she's not some "chav from a slum estate" (urrgh I hate the word chav).

If someone put their title, and it wasn’t ‘Dr’ or similar, on a CV, I’d find it very very odd.

I also can’t think of a situation in which I’d address anyone using their title (again, unless it was Dr).

Well it's a long time since I needed a CV so I don't know what's the etiquette these days.

I'd not expect to see Dr on a cv but I don't work in a medical field. Lots of colleagues have PhDs but it's only stated in email signatures, and if it is relevant.

If I got a CV with Mrs Jane Smith or Mr John Smith on it, it would probably be rejected.

Indeed.

Well I might not know the trendy way to write a CV but at least I'm not snobby about what another human is called.

I remember reading a study in the late 80s of identical essay submitted under different names to universities. There were very stark differences in how they were judged.

Old fashioned names scored higher grades than those perceived as new. Those assumed to be from certain backgrounds did better or worse based on broad cultural stereotypes. Afro-Caribbean names were marked down, Korean or Chinese names marked higher, that sort of thing. It was eye opening.

People are subconsciously influenced by all sorts of things. It’s how Derren Brown does his act. It’s part of human nature and there’s no point pretending it doesn’t happen or that we don’t do it all the time ourselves.

It’s certainly worth bearing in mind when naming our children - how will their name help or hinder them in life?

I would pronounce Kaelan as you have suggested (but I’m a teacher in a Catholic school - there are lots of Irish names!) However, Caelan is the more traditional spelling. I’m not as keen on the ‘Kaylan’ spelling but I’m not a fan of anglicised spellings of Irish names anyway (so possibly biased). I think it’s a nice name.

You probably are, you just don’t notice. We all are, in one way or another.

We make assumptions on previous experiences, our culture and our communities. What signals one thing to one group will say something completely different to another.

It’s like having an accent - everyone has one, but only notice other people’s.

Of course there are times I might roll my eyes at an unusual spelling or an "out there" name or I name that I personally just think is horribly ugly (sorry to anyone called Percy but your name is ugly 😂) but if I am interacting with this person I wouldn't be saying anything rude to their face or whatever.
I do know that people make assumptions and think about stereotypes when they see or hear certain names - I just think it's appalling that someone might not give someone a job interview because their parents decided to call them something unusual.
It might happen....but it shouldn't.

@Needmorelego , but you are looking down your nose at us, because we admit that we'd perceive Kaylan differently to Caelan.

But they aren’t going “not hiring this one, he’s called Jaxxon Dweezel Englebert and the last three Jaxxon Dweezels were dickheads.”

They are scanning loads of application forms and filtering them through their own unconscious bias. When choosing a shortlist of 8 from 120 applications, the tiniest things can tip it either way.

People tend to hire people like themselves. That’s why modern recruitment practices hide this information, so the candidates are looked at fairly.

Do I have a mental image of Jaxxon’s background? Sure. And also of Charles, and of Bodie and of StJohn. And so do you, I expect.

Have you ever been in a staff room when new class lists are handed out? Very funny and kind of scary to overhear. Teacher have many opinions on names.