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Arian?

121 replies

Dhekaksnsjellfv · 02/02/2024 22:04

This is the only name we can agree on, what do you think?

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KirstenBlest · 03/02/2024 21:31

@Dhekaksnsjellfv , it's just as popular as Steven.
If you looked at how popular Stephen and Steven are across all age groups, there will be many more than Aryan and Arians.

It's probably a fashionable name in certain cultural groups only.

tan1000 · 10/09/2024 10:49

Ok do you think it’s ok to change a 18 month old baby called Arian? When we names him we didn’t think there would be this much negative connotations especially with this spelling. I feel so uncomfortable in certain settings and the more I read comments, I think I wish we gave him another name. I don’t want him to have to explain his background (Iranian parent) every time he says his name or gets a funny look (which I have experienced a few times in the last 18 months)

I know it’s part of his identity but I’m thinking maybe it’s not too late to make life easier for him and give him a new first name and make Arian his middle name.

ViolinSpin · 10/09/2024 10:58

Not what you want to hear @Dhekaksnsjellfv but it reminds me of Nazis and when you explain how it is pronounced it still sounds like Aryan to me.

It would make me cringe if I heard it much like when I hear the names of those people (now very elderly) named Adolph.

SportMum1982 · 10/09/2024 11:03

It’s an Indian name and it’s Aarian. It can be a boy or girl it means Noble; Enlightened; Benevolent.

pennypom · 10/09/2024 11:19

Nazi

KirstenBlest · 10/09/2024 11:34

@tan1000 ,You can change a child's name. 18 months is still young.
I think there was a thread on here a few days ago where someone had changed a child's name when the child was of a similar age.

Change your name by deed poll: Change a child’s name - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

RedOnyx · 10/09/2024 12:15

heldinadream · 02/02/2024 22:05

It's not a name.
It's very close to 'Aryan' which has racist connotations.
So no.

Aryan is super popular where I live, mostly people of Iranian descent so not really racist!

Lemonyyellow · 10/09/2024 12:21

I taught a little boy called Arian. He was of Indian descent. Nobody thought of the Aryan race because it was pronounced differently, spelt differently and obviously his parents weren’t nazis.

SportMum1982 · 10/09/2024 12:23

It’s not Nazi fgs! It’s pronounced aaaa-ree-yan!! It’s a beautiful Indian name.

MistyF · 10/09/2024 12:26

ViolinSpin · 10/09/2024 10:58

Not what you want to hear @Dhekaksnsjellfv but it reminds me of Nazis and when you explain how it is pronounced it still sounds like Aryan to me.

It would make me cringe if I heard it much like when I hear the names of those people (now very elderly) named Adolph.

Same

nameXname · 10/09/2024 16:57

It's a perfectly good name.

Among many other of his (unutterably awful) failings, Hitler was just so IGNORANT. Any scholars could have told him that European languages (and therefore, European peoples) were part of a much wider Indo-European (language and peoples) group. All were related to each other and diverged just a few thousand years ago - some spreading to northern Europe, others to northern India, both around 5000 BC.

Modern genetics have refined and amplified this fact. Have a look at this map (ironically, from a top German scientific research institution):
www.mpg.de/20666229/0725-evan-origin-of-the-indo-european-languages-150495-x

pennypom · 10/09/2024 17:49

Everyone will pronounce is Aaar ee an.
I find it hard to believe that the only name you can come up with sounds like the Aryan Brotherhood.
Nazis in america literally call their children Aryan.
So mad this is even on the table. Crazy.

pennypom · 10/09/2024 17:51

Everyone pronounces the name Ariel - Air ree al.
They WILL pronounce the name Arian - Air ree an.

And your kid will be labelled a nazi and so will you. At best, he'll be bullied the shit out of.
Don't do it.

CaptainMyCaptain · 10/09/2024 17:51

heldinadream · 02/02/2024 22:05

It's not a name.
It's very close to 'Aryan' which has racist connotations.
So no.

This. People would assume you are white supremacists.

HeySummerWhereAreYou · 10/09/2024 17:52

No.

Babbadoobabbadock · 10/09/2024 17:55

Unless they’re planning on joining the Hitler Youth it’s a definite No (or Nein)

patchworkbear · 10/09/2024 18:14

We three in my DC class, along with two Kiaan's and Riaan's!

Meredusoleil · 10/09/2024 19:26

I have taught several boys called Aryan/Aryon (different spellings) across two different schools. They were of mixed Mauritian and Indian descent. There is one in my dh's family too (Asian origin).

I personally don't have a problem with the name myself. But I can see why people would tbh.

pennypom · 10/09/2024 21:18

tan1000 · 10/09/2024 10:49

Ok do you think it’s ok to change a 18 month old baby called Arian? When we names him we didn’t think there would be this much negative connotations especially with this spelling. I feel so uncomfortable in certain settings and the more I read comments, I think I wish we gave him another name. I don’t want him to have to explain his background (Iranian parent) every time he says his name or gets a funny look (which I have experienced a few times in the last 18 months)

I know it’s part of his identity but I’m thinking maybe it’s not too late to make life easier for him and give him a new first name and make Arian his middle name.

Change it. It'll massively improve his future.

Dhekaksnsjellfv · 10/09/2024 21:52

tan1000 · 10/09/2024 10:49

Ok do you think it’s ok to change a 18 month old baby called Arian? When we names him we didn’t think there would be this much negative connotations especially with this spelling. I feel so uncomfortable in certain settings and the more I read comments, I think I wish we gave him another name. I don’t want him to have to explain his background (Iranian parent) every time he says his name or gets a funny look (which I have experienced a few times in the last 18 months)

I know it’s part of his identity but I’m thinking maybe it’s not too late to make life easier for him and give him a new first name and make Arian his middle name.

Sorry you’re experiencing this. Do you think the issue is his name is Arian or do you think the issue is that his name isn’t well known to brits? My friends ds has a ‘non British’ name. She gets funny looks or laughs or people are just openly rude, every time she introduces him. It’s a nice completely uncontroversial name, but just not one familiar to a lot of British people. Obviously then it’s a difficult decision, you would make any child’s life ‘easier’ by calling them jack or Archie or something else well known, but it’s a shame if you want to use something from his heritage and feel you can’t.

Either way, you could add a middle name and use the middle name with people you don’t know, that can be his ‘cv’ name. And then Arian for people who know you and know how to pronounce it. or move Arian to the middle as you suggest.
or you could introduce him as ari (ah ree)? instead of Arian, if you’re not sure what people’s reaction will be. And just be super clear on the pronunciation when you do call him Arian?

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breathinbreathout · 10/09/2024 21:56

Lemonyyellow · 10/09/2024 12:21

I taught a little boy called Arian. He was of Indian descent. Nobody thought of the Aryan race because it was pronounced differently, spelt differently and obviously his parents weren’t nazis.

My dc have a friend with this name, they have never commented on it.
It is just their friends name.

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