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Effion?

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Zoomer122 · 09/04/2023 13:33

Me and DP are looking at names for DC2. I recently found the boys name Eiffion and instantly fell in love, at first glance I thought the name was ‘eff-ion’ and after a further look thought it was ‘ee-fee-on’ but after a quick search I found out the origin of the name and it’s pronounced ‘avy-on’ or ‘ivy-on’ and i still love it but have fallen in love with ‘eff-ion’ especially with the nickname Effie. Me and DP are not Welsh and DS is named Florian but goes by Ori so we aren’t sure if it will sound right . I don’t want to give him a weird version of a traditional welsh name but at the same time I love eff-ion so much. Would it be weird to name him effion even though it’s not really a name or is there any variants that I’m not aware of.

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PickledScrump · 09/04/2023 18:00

It looks feminine like a misspelling of Ffion which is a Welsh girls name. Effie is also a common female nickname. Your son has to live with correcting people his whole life, and being assumed a girl when people see it written. Let this one go, maybe get a pet you can call Effie.

DacwMamYnDwad · 09/04/2023 18:12

According to darkgreener, Eifion is still used, and is more popular than Meirion.
The connection between the two names is that both are connected to regions in Wales, and are of a similar vintage. Meirion might be better known because of Portmeirion.
For those who are unfamiliar, Meirion is a boy's name, and pronounced approximately MAYR-yon (not Merrion Smile )

ClassicLib · 09/04/2023 18:14

It’s Eifion, pronounced AY-vee-on. A traditional Welsh name.

Zoomer122 · 09/04/2023 19:06

@SpringIntoChaos would never want to butcher a name, we wouldn’t name him Eiffion/Eifion it would be Effion

@TomatoSandwiches I might add Efan to the list

I don’t personally get why people get so heated over a name sounding slightly feminine. Me and DP like softer sounding ‘male’ names like Florian. Plus Effie would only be a nickname for us to use around the house.

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DacwMamYnDwad · 09/04/2023 19:53

If you are going to name him Effion, please do not say it's a Welsh name, because it isn't.

Efan is a slightly strange one, because it is fairly unusual, with Ifan being the popular version. Efan is pronounced Evan.

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 09/04/2023 20:00

I was getting Evian vibes (and suspect that's how many people would pronounce it) and you'd get so tired of correcting people who would say 'what, like the bottled water?'

Poblano · 09/04/2023 20:07

I've never heard of the name Effion, pretty sure it isn't Welsh.

I do however know lots of Eifions, of all ages (youngest is 2, oldest is in his 80s, and everything in between).

FatGirlSwim · 09/04/2023 20:12

I know several Efans, it’s fairly common where I live.

MoongazyHare · 09/04/2023 20:25

If you insist on using Effion, a-not-quite-Welsh name but suggestive of it, expect the boy to go through his whole life being asked ‘Oh, is that Welsh?’ And then having to say, ‘No, my mum made it up’.

PizzaPastaWine · 09/04/2023 20:26

I'd imagine if you don't live in Wales and call a kid Efan they would think you cannot spell Ethan.

LittleLegsKeepGoing · 09/04/2023 20:52

Sorry but Effion is a silly name, even as made up names go and Effie doesn't just sound feminine, it really is feminine.

I really don't understand why people want to mark out their children this way. It just makes you as parents look like desperate attention seekers.

Eifion however is a good strong Welsh name, even if non-Welsh speakers butcher it (much like Geraint).

Zola1 · 09/04/2023 20:55

Effie is a girls name.. so don't give him this nickname
Eifion is a spelling and pronunciation nightmare, my boss has that name and before meetings people ALWAYS whisper 'how do you say it again'

cheese? · 09/04/2023 20:56

It's just going to look like you misspelt Eifion

Aliciasays · 09/04/2023 21:04

If you do go with Effion or whatever please don’t claim it has any connection to a Welsh name. It’s about as Welsh as Tarquin.

Eifion is a lovely traditional Welsh name, the F is pronounced similar to an English V.

I am Welsh, speak Welsh and went to a Welsh school and where I’m from we pronounce Eifion as Eye-Vee-Onn (difficut to know how to illustrate it without knowing your accent). It may have different pronunciation in other parts of Wales but that’s how we say it.

but of course you can name your child whatever you please. If I ever heard someone claim Effion as a Welsh name the worst I’d do is roll my eyes and tut. But so what if you like it?

Aliciasays · 09/04/2023 21:06

Zola1 · 09/04/2023 20:55

Effie is a girls name.. so don't give him this nickname
Eifion is a spelling and pronunciation nightmare, my boss has that name and before meetings people ALWAYS whisper 'how do you say it again'

well that’s just lazy on their part, not to mention disrespectful not to bother learning their boss’s name ffs

ThomasinaLivesHere · 09/04/2023 21:14

To be fair to OP she’s aware the name she likes isn’t Welsh but came from her misreading of a Welsh name so I can’t imagine she’s going to tell people Effion is a Welsh name.

I can’t say I’m in love with the name but we have different styles. I do sympathise with misreading a name and liking your version better. I did this too.

I do think a lot of English speakers would read Effion the way you want it said though.

suzettenoisette · 09/04/2023 21:16

He will get "effing Effion" all of his life.

What about another soft sounding name if you like those?

Fabian
Elliott
Emmett
Lucian

ReadersD1gest · 09/04/2023 21:18

Aliciasays · 09/04/2023 21:06

well that’s just lazy on their part, not to mention disrespectful not to bother learning their boss’s name ffs

Maybe he has meetings with other people? Confused

Keroppi · 09/04/2023 21:20

No

Aliciasays · 09/04/2023 21:24

ReadersD1gest · 09/04/2023 21:18

Maybe he has meetings with other people? Confused

Fair point ! But to call it a nightmare is still disrespectful

Zoomer122 · 09/04/2023 21:54

In no way am I claiming effion to be a welsh name, and as much as it was my stupid mistake I can’t help falling for it. I also really do like efan but not pronounced like Evan but eff-an again I would probably spell it effan or ephan.
I know it’s not everyone’s cup of tea but I can’t help falling for this eff sound for some reason (obvious choice would be stefan but don’t like how it would always be read as stephen)

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Mumped · 09/04/2023 21:58

Ephraim ?

MoggyP · 09/04/2023 22:00

Just do not use the nn Effie for a boy, even if you do find an "eff" name.

Because it's a very traditional girls name. (Just call him Sue and be done with it, yes, it's that well established)

ReadersD1gest · 09/04/2023 22:02

stefan but don’t like how it would always be read as stephen
Of course it wouldn't. Why do you think that?

mathanxiety · 09/04/2023 22:08

It's too close to Florian and Evian.

It's also not cool to take a name from a language you're not familiar with and basically mispronounce it.

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