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Who actually pronounced the last syllable in Eleanor like -nor?

166 replies

misslucy92 · 09/01/2023 14:15

This is mainly for people in the Uk and Ireland (or outside of the Us) as I know that in the Us -nor is used.

But I often read that in the Uk people say -na. I don’t know if I can explain it well but I mean -nor vs -na (sort of like Elena is said sometimes). But I only like -nor, personally.

So could I get away with naming her Eleanor and saying -nor in the Uk? Do some of you pronounce it -nor?

Does Elinor change anything?

sort of wondering if I could use -nor or whether I should look for a new name. I like both spellings Eleanor and Elinor.

Also name your region or where you are approximately (only if you feel comfortable).

Thanks.

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featheryfancy · 09/01/2023 15:27

Elena I'd pronounce with an a, Eleanor I'd pronounce with the nor.
Obviously similar, but completely different names for me

inquisitorgeneral · 09/01/2023 15:31

It depends on which part of the UK you live in. In England, most accents are non-rhotic, so the letter R is always silent when at the end of a word. So "sore" often sounds the same as "saw". This is a feature of the accent, so changing the spelling will not make them pronounce the R.

In Scotland and Northern Ireland the R will be pronounced.

TeenTraumaTrials · 09/01/2023 16:01

Scottish here - I'd say -nur

There's an Eleanor in my DD's year and her mum (also Scottish) pronounces it Ellen - NOR and it sounds jarring to me

UsingChangeofName · 09/01/2023 16:02

Midlands here.
I would say "Ellen-uh"

As a pp said, she would soon become Elle or Ellie though, so keep that in mind if you only want Elea nor

MickeyMouseShithouse · 09/01/2023 16:04

South west. El-en-nor, but very very light on the R.

PAFMO · 09/01/2023 16:04

As @SenecaFallsReduxand @inquisitorgeneral say, rhotic accents will pronounce the R, non-rhotic won't. Not much you can do if you want the R pronounced other than live in a rhotic area!

ofwarren · 09/01/2023 16:07

I'm lancashire and say the Nor

MerryMarigold · 09/01/2023 16:11

It's my name. I love it. The Beatles pronounced it 'nuh' at the end and they were from Liverpool. I'd be a bit 🙄 at someone with a 'nor' pronunciation who wasn't American. Like walking around insisting that Evian is 'waaahder'. It's much prettier without the 'nor' anyway.

PAFMO · 09/01/2023 16:30

MerryMarigold · 09/01/2023 16:11

It's my name. I love it. The Beatles pronounced it 'nuh' at the end and they were from Liverpool. I'd be a bit 🙄 at someone with a 'nor' pronunciation who wasn't American. Like walking around insisting that Evian is 'waaahder'. It's much prettier without the 'nor' anyway.

The R is pronounced in most Scottish, Irish, and SW England accents as well, for the reasons given. It would be very odd to be eye rolly or offended by such a huge group of people speaking their own language perfectly correctly.
Other non rhotic accents will pronounce the "nor" with a schwa and no R as the stress is on the first E. The second syllable will also have a schwa and not a full /e/ (as in bed)

Ladyofthelake53 · 09/01/2023 16:50

Im Eleanor. Live in South, most people say nuh but i think its because they dont know how to pronounce it properly. Its not a common name, some have never heard of it.

Elea nor is the correct pronunication. There are some people i know pronounce it correctly but many dont.

IglesiasPiggl · 09/01/2023 16:56

I think there are a sufficient number of people who will pronounce it "nur" etc that if the "nor" is important then probably choose a different name.

Lulu1919 · 09/01/2023 17:01

My daughter is Eleanor and pronounce it
Ell a nor

Veryfaraway · 09/01/2023 17:05

I'd pronounce it more ner, but definitely with the r. I'm Scottish.
I suppose it depends on the accent in your area.
It's a really nice name btw.

Xrays · 09/01/2023 17:05

I’ve been told I found posh (🤷‍♀️😆) and I would definitely say “nor”.

Xrays · 09/01/2023 17:06

*sound

Loput · 09/01/2023 17:19

It's my name, I'm from the South and don't say the nor bit - more like Ellenuh but spelt Eleanor.

I personally don't like the -nor and find it jarring and harsher than southern pronunciation but I accept that US, Irish and Scottish people will say it their way . An uncle used to overpronounce the nor a lot to annoy me or tell me off when I was little.

WitchDancer · 09/01/2023 17:21

Midlands, I would say El-an-nor

MajesticElephant · 09/01/2023 17:22

I’m an Eleanor and everyone (including me!), bar one person, ends my name with ‘nah’ or ‘nuh’. Im
in the South East but friends/family from all over. I also don’t like the -nor ending as I’m not used to it and don’t associate it with my name.

MajesticElephant · 09/01/2023 17:24

Also anyone who harps on about the “correct” pronunciation makes me laugh. It’s clear there are multiple acceptable versions.

MoscowMules · 09/01/2023 17:26

Welsh speaker here and Welsh, I pronounce the "not" at the end.

TheBirdintheCave · 09/01/2023 17:37

I'm from Liverpool and the two I knew were both el-eh-nor. I was very confused when I first heard people pronounced it as Elena.

UsingChangeofName · 09/01/2023 17:42

Im Eleanor. Live in South, most people say nuh but i think its because they dont know how to pronounce it properly. Its not a common name, some have never heard of it.

"pronounce it properly" ???? Hmm

Get over yourself.
Having a different accent from you doesn't make anyone "improper".

electricmoccasins · 09/01/2023 17:44

Most people in the UK will pronounce ‘Eleanor’ with the Schwa sound (/ə/) at the end rather than ‘or’.

Whatever you choose, your child will ultimately decide when older how they wish their name pronounced - the one in our family has, and loathes the other pronunciation.

maryofthevirginkind · 09/01/2023 18:01

For me (Derbyshire) Eleanor - ellener, Elinor - Ell in or.

APurpleSquirrel · 09/01/2023 18:06

My DN is an Eleanor - family all pronounce the -nor - we're from South & South West.
However she's mostly called Ellie.