A sister for Eleri?

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We are expecting dd2, and dd1 is called Eleri (it's a Welsh name).

Does anyone have any suggestions of what might go? I had a boys name picked out but I can't find a girls name I like, and we now know it's a girl so need to get my thinking cap on!

I think ideally we would like another Welsh name.

@mikeuniformmike how about, instead of policing and correcting everybody's suggestions, you come up with some for the op? You are kind of sucking the enjoyment out of the thread here. Op is a big girl, she'll probably be able to work out for herself which names are acceptable for her.

Ethni isn't a welsh name. I can see what 'schoolyard' nickname it would cause. Jus't don't.

FWIW Eleri is pronounced El-ERRy and rhymes with Kerry (Ceri). In a few accents it might sound like El-Airy but all the Eleris I know, and it was a popular name in the 1960s so I know several, tend to say it as Lerry.

Names are pronounced differently with different dialects/accents doesn't mean one is wrong and the other is right

Think of the name Kate for example - said with a north east English accent it's pronounced differently to a south east English accent.

Mia for example can be Mee-a or My-a

If op likes a name she can pronounce it however she likes

Yes, but it will cause problems.
Welsh is phonetic, so will have a standard pronunciation.
Lois is popular is Wales and is pronounced Loyce, but the standard pronunciation is Lo-is.

Mia is pronounced Mee-ah surely?

Sorry, Lo-is is the standard UK pronunciation, but I know several who say it as Loyse, and only one who says it as Lo-is.

@mikeuniformmike how about, instead of policing and correcting everybody's suggestions, you come up with some for the op? You are kind of sucking the enjoyment out of the thread here. Op is a big girl, she'll probably be able to work out for herself which names are acceptable for her.

My thoughts exactly.

I am off to tell my welsh friend Ceiredwen her name is “wrong”. Google shows she’s not the only one out there so somebody needs to tell all those people too.

Names are organic. Most names can be spelled a variety of ways.

anyway I wish people would stop offering 'Seren' as a great Welsh girl's name, it's truly atrocious..:)

What about Manon or Angharad.?

Oh, I see you did offer one suggestion. Teleri. Teleri as a sister for Eleri perhaps if op has a third child she could call her Meleri

Ok, I would go for a three or two syllable name. Angharad (a name that I've gone off because it is a bit too popular), Alwenna, Aloma spring to mind. Aloma is quite unusual but nice.
Fflur I like, and Ffion but they seem a bit short. You could use Ffiona I guess, but it's just Fiona spelt phonetically.
Nia is pretty and I know sisters called Nia and Eleri.
Names that have lots of vowels are pretty. Awen (Muse) and Alaw (Melody/Air) are pretty too.
Nerys is pretty - nicer than Carys IMO.
Llywela goes nicely with Eleri but the LL is tricky.
Eluned is lovely and tends to get said as Lynne-Ed.
"Leri a Luned" is cute!

I think the point is you can pronounce your child's name however you like!

Op ignore pedants and choose a name and pronunciation you like

@AuntLydia

See, that's better. Much more helpful. I also love Alaw. Some very unusual names there that I've never heard of but I'm not going to assume they aren't Welsh or Welsh enough based on my own personal experience.

tbh though Blushing, if you were to choose a Welsh name and then say 'oh but we don't pronounce it the right way' you would be setting yourself up for a lifetime of corrections.

It would be like naming your child 'Jane' and saying 'but we pronounce it Jann - ee', for example.

Going back to Eleri - mikeuniformmike is telling people El-air-ri is wrong no matter how many people say they've met people who pronounce it that way

Blushing , Eleri is pronounced as Mike says, that is, Eh - lerri.

Anglophone people might transcribe that sound they hear as 'Eh - lair - ee but that is not what they are hearing.

It's kind of irrelevant though surely. Op already has an Eleri. She doesn't need lessons on how to pronounce it - that ship has sailed.

what it is ..(warming to theme now) , is that Welsh pronunciation, doesn't 'disappear' vowel sounds and make them into a 'schwa' like English does.
Look at the English pron. of 'Hilary' for example. The second vowel is more or less swallowed.

According to this thread then, I've been pronouncing my child's name wrong for nearly 3 years. Oh well. Probably best I don't go for Teleri or Meleri then incase I say those wrong too 😂😂

I've written all the suggestions I like down, and keep saying them every so often. So thank you for all the input :) With Eleri, I just knew straight away that was the name for her. This time around it seems I'll need to warm to the idea of a name as nothing is jumping out at me like Eleri did.

It would be like naming your child 'Jane' and saying 'but we pronounce it Jann - ee', for example

If you were in spain, or had spanish heritage, the “jay-ne” pronunciation would be “wrong”. It would be pronounced “ha-nay”.

I knew a lad called “Orri”. The parents had met in france, introduced by a guy named Henri and had named their son in his honour. This is 30 years ago, before you could look stuff up on the internet.

The world is getting smaller and names will start being pronounced according to local accent. Even “jane” in a birmingham accent “jay-yun” sounds very different to it pronounced by a glaswegian...

Milgi would make a good girl's name! Yes it's Welsh for greyhound.

Also like Gwenci which is a weasel

Bronwen is also welsh for weasel.

Oh I've never heard that used!

I did know a Bronwen who fitted the description mind you.

Gwenci is stoat or weasel. Where I come from we say it as wenci (pron. wenky ) but it is gwenci
Carlwm is stoat.
Bronwen is weasel.

Back to the pronunciation thing. Stanley in some places gets said as Stanleh, and Kelly as Cally (not the same place but not far geographically). The people there aren't mispronouncing them as it's their accent.

Gwen-ci = white dog?

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