Matilda

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Apologies if this has been done a thousand times but names go in and out and opinions change as a name gets more popular.

What do you think of when you hear the name Matilda?

Are there are well....chav associations with it? Sorry for using the 'c' word but my other front runner seems to be associated with this word which has turned me off the name.

Thanks

'Oh and what do you mean by 'more secure about my own situation'?'

I mean that people who are secure in themselves don't bother with this chav obsession that some people have. It's a snobbery that indicates insecurity.

She didn't say she thought the name was chavvy!

She asked 'if there are chav associations' as there were with her other name choice.

She did not say - Matilda is a chavvy name - do you all agree?

I think there's a difference between worrying about other people's snobbery towards your choice, and being prejudiced against somebody else's child because of its name!

The first is a lack of security in your own situation and ability to provide a privileged life for your child and the second is just unnecessarily unpleasant. The two are very different and come from totally different places.

Elizabethnaylor1980 if you're happy to teach your children that it's acceptable to call people 'chavs' well then that's up to you. But don't pretend it isn't bandied around as an insult.

Paha

'People who are secure in themselves don't obsess over this chav association'

I understand completely now why you are taking this so personal. I didn't realise you are the head of the CACA - the chav and chavettes association.

I bet you have a badge there!

Being described as chavvy is hardly the worst thing - certainly not worse then being called a knob.

I know a lot of names that yes in my opinion I would openly say they sound chavvy - but that is purely based on geography I think - what area you are from and people you know with those names.

Yeah Elizabeth!

Teach them to call people knobs!!!

Bubalou, you are wasting your time, the troll really doesn't get it at all.

Ignore and she/he might go away hopefully.

ressyHedMair I see the point you're making but I'm not sure I agree. Asking if something is 'chavvy' indicates, to me at least, that it's a term they use to describe people and things.

I'm Irish too and I find the British class obsession tedious.

Tranquilitybaby thanks so much for that helpful contribution.

I think they are separate cases. For example, I love red hair, I tell my DH if i ever move on it will only be so I can have little red head babies and I would still love him :P But if I had been bullied for having red hair at school I might hope my children didn't have red hair so they don't have to go through that... I hope ressyHedMair doesn't take this example the wrong way ....
People worry about all kinds of things with their babies, a little understanding of that instead of name calling would go a long way on these threads.

Welcome. Sad but true, didn't work though.

No, sadly your words lack much power.

The British class obsession.

I must be well out of it where I am as there is nothing like that where I am.

Maybe some people are just paranoid and insecure about their own situation.

actually it's a complicated double bluff, and I have a weather girl blonde bob!

Talking of double bluffs leads me on to oxymorons, this debate might be a bit like Goodwin's law. Where, if you label somebody else a chav no matter how tempting it is, you're one too. I don't do that but I've been guilty of the sideways eye roll. God knows what I'm thinking and some days he's not impressed.

I'm reminded of a joke. It goes like this. they say that one in four people is Chinese. Well, it's not me Mam, it's not me Da and it's not our colin, so it must be me.

No class obsession in my area of Britain either. In parts of London possibly, but not Britain as a whole.

But ressy this phenomenon does exist in Ireland, in a sl different guise? David mc Williams book 'the popes children' mocks the 'Hibernian cosmopolitans' and their love of gaelic names, there more obscure the better ('uachtar reoite phenomenon' my friend calls it!) as a way of distinguishing themselves from the 'decklanders' with their emmas and joshes

oh dear, this thread has gone downhill. I don't think OP will be coming back to this thread.
For what it's worth, I would not have wanted to cause anyone offence by suggesting that names can be chavvy or badly thought of. I was merely expressing an opinion based on my experiences. Squoosh, if you were offended, then I apologise.

True. Scrolling through ancient scrolls for more and more obscure Irish names.

I give some of those a quick sideways eye roll too. That was a scarily astute book! What's he up to now David Mcw?

Nice, solid name.

I just personally find it a bit boring but nothing wrong with it!

It does seem popular too, we know 4 under 5s.

soundsslightlystrident I agree that a Naoise or a Fiachra most likely comes from a middle class Dublin family but I don't there's anything like the forensic level examination of names as class markers that I see here. Emma and Josh are as likely to be found in Ranelagh as they are in Ballyfermot.

I think David McWilliams spends most of his time these days saying 'I told you there'd be a crash, I told you!'

The last time I saw David mc Williams he was discussing the independence referendum, endorsing the Yes vote.

I'm sure you're right, squoosh but my point was more that people will try and signal certain aspirations by what names they choose, in Ireland as elsewhere.

Tbh I think I might have a wee touch of the ' HiCos' about me. But just a touch < eyes Avoca cookbook>

Empress Matilda was a well known chav

Seriously, though, where did you hear that, OP? And we need to know the other name in order to fully answer your query

My own daughter is named Matilda (well it's one of her names, I'm not exactly outing her by saying that). It's a proper name, not made up, no random scrabble pieces involved in the spelling and has a long history of use. I couldn't care what opinions on 'chaviness' (or not) are beyond that.

He was not just a little bit right though. He was properly superciliously right. He might be a mumsnetter

It is very popular now, that is true