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Why does everyone hate Ellie so much?

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Thebuttonfancier · 16/05/2014 12:22

Hello. I am an Eleanor nn Ellie. I've always loved both forms of my name but I always see on here that everyone hates the nn Ellie. I'm not offended I just wondered why? I don't know many children but I see that lots of people seem to prefer the nn Nell which personally I always hated as it sounds so frumpy! Just curious- is it the popularity? Has it become a bit chavvy? Honest answers- genuinely just curious!... X

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DavidArchersBoa · 16/05/2014 14:33

My DD2 (11) has your name - always shortened to Ellie. I love it. So does she. It suits her - informal, with chutzpah imho

She is the only Ellie in her year

I agree that MN is not representative of RL attitudes to names

Alisvolatpropiis · 16/05/2014 14:36

I think it's just that there are so many little ones at the moment that people are bored of hearing it. Rather than there being anything intrinsically wrong with the name itself.

Shockers · 16/05/2014 14:40

MagnaCharge, I know of a girl called Elle, but her mum
pronounced it Ellie. Her mum was the sort to say something like that too!
Fwiw, I would also assume the last e was silent.

tammytoby · 16/05/2014 14:53

Because Ellie, Evie, Issy (or Finn, Alfie and Archie for boys) are so overused that they've become quite dull. Names that become very trendy and fashionable WILL, like fashion, fall out of favour and start to sound dated. Just like Jane and Mike or Sharon or Wayne do now.

I do like the name Eleonor or, even more, Eleonora!

sonniebonnie · 16/05/2014 14:59

Yes, it's become such an overused name that people are getting bored of hearing it.

Roseformeplease · 16/05/2014 15:02

I have an Eleanor / Ellie and live in Scotland - doesn't seem to cause any problems with the name. She prefers Ellie so we call her that. Her DGM insists on Eleanor which she tolerates but doesn't like. I would have loved her to have her name in full but it never quite worked out that way. Lovely name. Same origin as Helen (think Helen of Troy) and my Eleanor is wonderful.

DavidArchersBoa · 16/05/2014 15:03

Gosh how many times a day do ou have to hear a name to get "bored" of it? Are you bored of your own kids names as you use them every day? You lot must have a very low boredom threshold!

Roseformeplease · 16/05/2014 15:08

And BTW my Ellie was born in 2002 so is older than the huge number on here people seem to know. In fact, she is the only Eleanor we know who isn't in her 40s, the only one at her school (although there is one to come who is 4 years younger) and the only one we know amongst all our friends / family.

oohdaddypig · 16/05/2014 15:11

magna Grin please tell me what your response was?

I don't mind Ellie. I agree it's overused, and reminds me of Nellie the elephant and too similar to Evie. I think people just like groaning once a name is too popular.

DavidArchersBoa · 16/05/2014 15:13

Magna a lot of people who should know better spell my Ellie's name as Elle. Grinds my gears

MysweetAudrina · 16/05/2014 15:14

Ny dd is 6, her name is Ellen but we often call her Ellie. She loves her name

sonniebonnie · 16/05/2014 15:15

Well, I do think that names (like fashion) start to sound/feel a little dull and dated simply because we've had so much exposure to them. A name might sound beautiful and refreshing when you first hear it (like the current fashion of old ladies names) but once you've met lots of children with the same name, it loses some of its initial 'freshness' imo.

burgatroyd · 16/05/2014 15:16

I wonder how many people check name popularity before naming baby. I know a lot say they simply loved name but perhaps that's down to us being subconsciously influenced by hearing a name so often it lodges there. Isobel and its variations was out of top 1000 from 1950 to 1990 but when it started moving up the charts we became more familiar with it and this used it more, if that makes any sense!

DavidArchersBoa · 16/05/2014 15:17

Sorry sonnie I didn't hear what you said. I was so bored of seeing your name twice on this thread that I assumed you were dull and overused. Sorry

Wink
squoosh · 16/05/2014 15:20

Not everyone has to love every name! I couldn't care less if my 'quite popular in the 1970's' name is considered boring by other people.

squoosh · 16/05/2014 15:22

That's how names become popular burgatroyd. One year they're completely obscure, a couple of years later they're used by the fashionable types and a few years after that everyone else thinks 'oh yes, Lily is a lovely name'.

DavidArchersBoa · 16/05/2014 15:22

Squoosh - me neither. My name is a classic 60s name. There were always 2 or 3 wherever I went. My mom still loves it so yeah...

Thumbwitch · 16/05/2014 15:24

Don't hate it, but it's very popular just now.

It was one of my possible choices for a girl if I'd had one: Eleanor or Helena nn Ellie - but then my sister had another girl and nicked it! Since I only have 2 boys though, it's not an issue. :)

BigBongTheory · 16/05/2014 15:41

Magda - I've had the same issue. Confused me for a bit wondering which child was Ellie when in fact it was Elle.

janey68 · 17/05/2014 00:20

Eleanor is beautiful but sadly Ellie is over used and twee.

Mrsindecision · 17/05/2014 07:25

I can't believe that Isabel "and its variants" were outside the top 1000 until the 1990s - I know the name has been exceptionally popular in recent years, but I still know quite a few that would have been born in the late 1960/70s. Where did you get that statistic from burgatroyd? In fact I would be interested in seeing any detailed stats pre 1996, as I this is when the ONS started publishing this information.

SquirrelledAway · 17/05/2014 08:57

You can get the top 100 names for babies in England and Wales from the ONS website for a selection of years (1904, 1914, 1924 etc up to 1994). Isabella was no. 74 in 1904 and no. 81 in 1914, and then drops out of the top 100 and doesn't reappear (it's not in the top 100 for 1984 or 1994).

In Scotland, Isabella was 7th in 1900, 22nd in 1950 (Isobel was 41st and Isabel 69th) and ranked between 101 and 250 in 1975.

If names are cyclical, then it will be interesting to see when Beryl, Gladys, Doris, Bertha, Euphemia, Fanny and Hilda make a comeback.

Mrsindecision · 17/05/2014 09:11

Yes, I know that the top 100 stats are available for each decade on the ONS website but nothing more detailed than that. I was just questioning how burgatroyd knows that Isabel/Isobel was outside the top 1000 pre 1990 as I can't quite believe that it was. Being outside the top 100 is somewhat different to being outside the top 1000.

CrispyFern · 17/05/2014 09:16

There are just so many Ellie Lily Milly Molly Ilsa Lllllll ish names around.
It's perfectly nice but you hear it a lot so I wouldn't choose it myself is all.

burgatroyd · 17/05/2014 09:16

Got from american stats so not too accurate here! I guess my point is that lots of names become 'loved' as they lodge themselves in public consciousness. Do we love a name because we hear it often...

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