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lunavix · 11/08/2006 22:04

kian/cian and niamh?

to the best of my knowledge it's kee-an
and neem?

Is this right?

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TambaTheDragonSlayer · 11/08/2006 22:05

Neive?

HRHQueenOfQuotes · 11/08/2006 22:05

neeve (I think)

bakedpotato · 11/08/2006 22:05

Neev

gothicmama · 11/08/2006 22:06

yes neev and keean

lemonaid · 11/08/2006 22:07

Niamh is like neeve, but more NEE-uhv with the two syllables slurred together a bit to make more like one-and-a-half syllables. It tends to be pronounced neeve by most English people, though.

lunavix · 11/08/2006 22:08

so it's definately kee-an and not kai-an?

neve? really? neve is on my baby name list lol! How can it justify being spelt like that lol

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HRHQueenOfQuotes · 11/08/2006 22:08

luna - because it's Irish Gaelic

lunavix · 11/08/2006 22:09

If someone announced themselves as a 'neev' you'd expect it to be spelt 'neve' wouldn't you? Or is this a name thing I just don't know about??

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lunavix · 11/08/2006 22:09

I know it's from a different origin (which I fully respect!) but those letters don't make those sounds!!!

Still very pretty either way.

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MarscusGarvey · 11/08/2006 22:10

Nee-ve

lemonaid · 11/08/2006 22:40

There isn't an immutable law of the universe that determines what noise a particular letter or combination of letters makes. In Irish mh (as a combination) makes a "v" sound, just as in English gh (as a combination) makes a "f" sound (in "enough" -- or it can be silent, or any of a number of other options). You don't look at "enough" and say "but those letters don't make those sounds!!!" (well, I haven't been spying on you, maybe you do...)

chubbleigh · 11/08/2006 22:43

Yeah but if you are Irish you know what they sound like and how they are spelt and probably know at least one person with that name.

laudaud · 12/08/2006 00:02

I actually had someone at work ask me about this earlier in the week - I'm Irish and we do a lot of work with Irish companies so have collaugues coming to me frequently with names to check if they are male or female and how they are pronounced. The other one I had this week was Grainne.

Speaking of Irish names what real;ly annoys me is the singer Ciara who pronounces her name Sierra as in the car - generally it is pronounced Keera.

laudaud · 12/08/2006 00:05

Lunavix - the English don't always pronounce words the way you would expect them to be pronounced either based on spelling - Leicester, Loughborough!!!

Here's another Irish one for you - Caoimhe (pronounced Keeva)

shhhh · 12/08/2006 09:52

another example seamus...Shay- mus..LOL I always wanted to say it as it read..!

zephyrcat · 12/08/2006 10:12

I would pronounce Kian as Kyan - only beacause a friends ds has that name but I guess it could be either way!

Flumpybumpy · 12/08/2006 13:35

Niamh is def NEE VE

Kian is KEE AN

They are irish names. I had Niamh on my list but went for Caitlin in the end as no-one could pronounce it when i asked.

How about Saorise?? Another irish name pronounced
SEER SHA

HRHQueenOfQuotes · 12/08/2006 13:49

laudaud - I think the best example (one that's local to us too) of English place names that don't make sense is

Towcester (pronounced Toaster!)

squishy · 12/08/2006 14:01

My BIL is called Seamus and we always call him Seamouse!!! Grainne is a nice one, but unexpected too.

We're looking for Irish names as DH is Irish - we named both our cats with Irish names and are now wishing we could use one of them (Gilligan - Gilly - meaning little lad and Sorcha meaning brightness and radiance!!)

kayzed · 12/08/2006 17:43

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melpomene · 12/08/2006 18:20

On CBeebies the other day they showed a picture sent in by a child named Caoimhe - the name was written on the picture. I had no idea how the name would be pronounced until the presenter pronounced it "Keefer".

lunavix · 12/08/2006 19:48

thanks everyone!

I feel really ignorant, but I just love irish names. Always thought my ds had one until I was told I'd spelt it wrong (his name is Ayden!)

Very surprised about Caoimhe it looks quite feminine to me but I'm assuming as it's pronounced 'keefer' then it's male.

I think I'll be sticking with the spelling 'neve' it looks so gorgeous the other way but I think -especially knowing how people are where I live - that she'd get a constant 'huh?' out of it.

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time4tea · 12/08/2006 21:27

hello, this website might come in handy -
www.babynamesofireland.com/

you can listen to Frank McCourt the author pronounce them properly! as well as buy yourself some very flash christening gowns with Irish designs embroidered on....

UrsulatheSeawitch · 12/08/2006 21:43

So how do you pronounce Grainne? Nobody has said yet (I don't think)

UrsulatheSeawitch · 12/08/2006 21:45

Ooooh, time4tea, thanks for that link - have just discovered it's grawn-ya, and the explanations from Frank are fab