DH wants to name DC2 after himself

[ShadowStorm]

Question - would anyone do this?

DH has declared that if DC2 is a boy, he thinks that DC2 should have his name (first and middle), as DH has a good name. DH's name is lovely, but it's DH's name, so I think this it's a bad idea to recycle it for a DS. Firstly, I'd like DC2 to have a first name that they don't share with a close living relative, and secondly, we've already used DH's first name as DS's middle name. So, we would potentially have the following situation (names have been changed):

DH called Andrew Luke Storm
DS1 called Matthew Andrew Storm
DS2 called Andrew Luke Storm Junior.

DH insists that the "Junior" on the end of his name would make all the difference

I'm concerned that DS2 would feel that we couldn't be bothered to give him a name all of his own, especially as his first name would also be the same as DS1's middle name, and would get a bit hacked off at being known as DH junior.

Am I being daft here? Or am I justified in telling DH to think again?

I wouldn't, I think everyone deserves their own name in their own right. Think junior/senior is rubbish! What would he think of you calling a daughter exactly same name as you?

Could you not offer his name as middle name as a compromise?

Good luck! It's a nightmare when men get a bee in their bonnet!

The fact that it's his 2nd son makes it even worse, somehow.

Hecsy

I missed that bit....agree with Floggingmolly. Surely son no 1 would feel a bit over looked? !

Why?
His name isn't that nice op.
And why the second son and not the first?
Terrible idea IMO.

"Junior" is beyond awful, so naff and should never ever have been exported from the USA.

Same name - as middle name, as you did with your DS, I get that, but to replicate in full his name for DS2??? Put him in his place OP, and use the first name as your DS2's middle name as well.

Poor DS2 otherwise!

I know a family where the son has the father's name it they call them 'big Tom' and 'little Tom' (ntrn)
Imagine being 'little yourname' your entire life. Fuck that.

Oh yes and in this family it's DS number 2 who is little Tom also leading to the question 'why wasn't DS 1 named after his father' - it's a terrible idea all round.

My son and DH share a their first name. HOWEVER, my DH has always been known by a shortened version of his middle name and I never even think of his first name as belonging to him.
If DH was known by his first name, DS would not have been called it.

Does that make sense or did I just ramble?!?

Tell your DH, that you think it would be better that he's called

'Old Andrew' instead of Andrew Jr.

Let that stick with him for a bit

Foot down, time to veto a name.

I'm imagining being "little Tom" when you're 6'3

As it only needs the mum to register the official name you could register the birth certificate with any name you like.

DD is officially one name but is referred to by her nickname always.

She is also named after each of her grand mothers - that's as far as I'm prepared to go. I can't imagine calling my child either my name or DH's. Lack of imagination and lifetime of confusion with mail, certificates etc etc.

In the days of 13 kids it wasn't unusual down our way for the first boy to be named after the dad but the child had the diminutive so it was "Thomas" the dad and "Tommy" or "Tom" the boy. When the boy became a man the father became "old Tom".
Is that what your husband wants?????

Aren't families weird?

He thinks your name choices are 'all silly' but can't see what's odd about having two and a half of the same name in one family.

Umm, he does know that the point of names is to tell things apart, doesn't he?

BTW our family had this for a while, so there were four generations of first-borns all called (say) 'William' as their first name, but nearly all known by their second names instead. Sometimes, just for fun, there would be more than one in the same generation.

So I have bugger all idea who half my male relatives are from the family tree. Conversations go 'You know your great-uncle Billy? No, not William, that's your uncle Andrew ... Well, his wife's died and you should send him a card but make sure you put his proper name on it. '

No. Because you will need to address your son by a different name so that everyone knows who is being talked to. He will then grow up using that different name. EXCEPT when he does anything official, when he will have to use his real first name, and spend his whole life explaining.

like my husband has to....OK, it's not a life-threatening issue but it is a bit of a PITA.

DH's Dad, Sister and Brother have names that start with the same initial, and that has caused havoc over the years with post, credit/debit cards etc that just say (names changed!) "S Jones" on them. They strongly advised us to give children different initials to us!

Jesus. No. Big fat massive NO. For all the above reasons but particularly what Talkative Jim & Hecsy said. I'm guessing your DH isn't usually this domineering, OP? It's so incredibly weird and self absorbed. Does he also want the boys to follow his career path? Talk about bringing up kids on your shadow.

OP, insist that your kids are given their own names. They're their own person, not mini-Mr-Storms.

Good luck!

No.
It's weird,and egotistical,and unoriginal.

I have the same name as an aunt and spent my childhood beign known as "Little X".

Didn't damage me, but it was bloody annoying at times!

Resoundingly "don't do it" responses! Naming fashions have really changed in the last 50 years. It's a very traditional thing to do but in that case it's usually the first son who is the Junior namesake. Is there a precedent for a father/son naming pattern in the family? Is your husband wanting to continue a tradition of his combination of first & middle names? (is he named after his father or grandfather?). Is it to do with him having some idea of continuing, cementing, or creating status and solidity?

Talk to him about how you would feel about the idea of having a girl and naming her after yourself. He may think that's not the same because girls aren't "carrying on the family name" or combinations of names, but naming patterns have always included girls being named after mothers, grandmothers, and aunts.

Talk to him about your desire for the children to be individuals, and how fashions for this sort of thing have changed. Is there any other well loved and respected male family member who your son could be named after? That may go some way to satisfying your husbands desire for continuity and a sense of tradition...

Good luck!

let DS 2 have Andrew as a middle name too, and his own first name.

I'm the odd one out a little here- would have liked to call DS after DH but he wouldn't have it. I wouldn't dream of giving it to a second DS though, that ship has sailed.
I do however have a DS that will be encouraged to at least be interested in his dads job, if not do it himself, so perhaps DH thought to enforce both might be harsh... Bless him

Personally I wouldn't

It just says to me that your DH is pretty unoriginal when it comes to names.

As your older boy has your DH's first name for a middle I'd either:
give the second one 'Luke' as the middle name,
or
give him a middle name from your side of the family this time.

That way, both boys get a bit of family history behind their middle name.

I rather wish, in retrospect, that we'd given DD a family middle name like her brothers. They have 'named after uncle' and 'named after grandpa' for middle names and she gets 'your big brothers picked it, and it was a better option than Teddy or Blankie so think yourself lucky'.