The mushroom poisoning in Vic...... we are gripped!.....Part 3

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New thread! Cheers @echt for noticing!

ok to weigh the mushrooms but unusual to take a photo surely

The people trying to reasonably explain all her mad shit... 🙄 (And that IS a rolling eye emoji, whatever Erin might say 😂)

😂😂😂
"Crimes against food" coming on the next indictment

I’m listening to The Trial podcast, any other good ones?

I listen to ‘mushroom case daily’ from abc.

lol you mean “lawyers”?

I don't know if it's true she left out the mustard. But it is relevant in that both the mustard and the prosciutto are a large part of the flavour of the dish.

She says she tasted the duxelle while cooking it and it tasted "bland" - hence she added more mushrooms from her stinky Asian collection, which ooops! also contained some foraged mushrooms she'd forgotten she'd put in the same container, without tasting it again...

If anyone thinks that is at all likely, I don't know what to say. But that is her current/latest story. Who knows, she has already changed her story on the stand and may change it again.

I made a BW years ago (the log type, not individual ones) and left out the crepe just because I suck at making proper thin crepes. It wouldn't occur to me to use filo but hey-ho, it could work.

She could've gone to a butcher for a full eye fillet instead of using whatever Woollies had but again, hey-ho.

Weighing the dried mushrooms in increasing larger batches is straight up weird though. Why would you bother if you're just adding them for extra flavour?

I don't eat meat any more so it's hard to envisage these sizes. If you bought 4 eye fillets from Woollies, would that be enough to make 6 (or 8 if you add up all the wellies allegedly available) individual portions? Or would that be too much and they'd be easily cut in half to make each BW?

She bought 4 fillets on July 27, and a 5th on July 28.

Plus an absolute mountain of pastry, some to sub in for not bothering with the crepes. Suggesting practice runs?

July 23:
Mushrooms Sliced - 500g
Mushrooms Sliced - 500g
Woolworths Puff Pastry sheets - 1kg
Art of Pastry frozen Filo pastry
Onion Shallots

July 27
Pampas Pastry Puff - 10pk
Art of Pastry frozen filo pastry
4 x beef eye fillets
Mushrooms sliced - 375gm
Mushrooms sliced - 475 gm

July 28
Pampas pastry Puff
Art of pastry frozen filo pastry
Mashing Potatoes - 1.5kg
Bean round cut cleaned
1 x beef eye fillet

@velvetandsatin yes that's a good point actually; if you'd taste tasted something and it was bland, wouldn't you taste teste again after adding an ingredient?? In which case, she would've been extremely sick or dead...

She could've gone to a butcher for a full eye fillet instead of using whatever Woollies had but again, hey-ho

Aldi sell long eye fillet cuts every day of the week. It's where I buy mine. Erin could have popped over to Leongatha to get hers.

From the BBC:

“'Not a single person' told, Ms Patterson agreespublished at 03:08
03:08
Lana Lam
Live reporter
The prosecution continues to question Ms Patterson about her immediate actions once she realised it was possible her foraged mushrooms may have accidentally made their way into the meal.
Here's the exchange:
"You never once told a medical professional that foraged mushrooms were involved or might be involved?"
"Correct, that's correct," Ms Patterson says.
"You didn't tell a single person?"
"Correct, correct," she replies again.
"Even after you were discharged from hospital you did not tell a single person that there may have been foraged mushroom used in the meal," Dr Rogers says.
"Instead you got up, you drove your children to school... and drove home. And then you got rid of the dehydrator. Correct?"
"Correct."”

If she loved these people, as she has said, then despite panic that she might have accidentally poisoned them surely she would have been keen to let medical staff know what could have happened.

There’s also a summary of today at 05.27 on here https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c8xgwkezq14t

So she’s admitted having them over was unusual. There’s further detail on the site, but her story about having two of them over to thank them for their help years previously when the children were little doesn’t add up.

She says she does have health issues as she has a pre-appointment for weight loss surgery in September! (But lied about having cancer as a cover up!)

I can’t get my head around someone having such severe medical anxiety that they discharge themselves against advice when the consequences could be extremely serious, yet they are willing to put themselves forward for weight loss surgery!

Surely the appointment at the weight loss clinic for September should be easy enough to check out?

I imagine she does have an appointment. But it seems odd that she’d volunteer for elective surgery.

I think it's totally plausible for that scenario to happen, but if it had happened that would have been her first story. Immediately that anyone got sick.

This wasn't even her story after someone died, or after she was arrested. It's a likely scenario for someone that is innocent.

There's not even any way she can say she didn't realise the foraged mushrooms were in the box until much later, as there would have been no reason to dump the dehydrator.

Is it possible to follow the case online somewhere?

There are lots of daily live blogs, eg:

Erin Patterson murder trial live: Cross-examination continues as accused gives evidence for a fifth day - ABC News

Erin Patterson trial day 28 – as it happened | Victoria | The Guardian

BBC has a live blog, but I can't find today's!

Australia | Latest News & Updates | BBC News

There are also daily podcasts, eg:

Mushroom Case Daily with Rachael Brown and Kristian Silva and Stephen Stockwell - ABC listen

These proven lies and contradictory behaviours are going to be what makes the jury decide her version of events could not reasonably have happened. It’s all too far fetched - you medical anxiety so avoid medical care when you could have deadly food poisoning but then decide to have weight loss surgery. And you don’t try to help medical staff find the cause of illness in the people you ‘love’. Her testimony has zero credibility.

I can see when trying to find a way to murder people you decide an ‘accidental’ poisoning is a good method. But she didn’t cover her tracks enough with her internet and phone behaviour and wasn’t willing to poison herself ‘a little bit’ (which is very risky) to make it be more believable. She failed to plan enough so her plot to get away with murder is going to fail.

she reset her phone to factory settings, remotely!

i think the answer is, leave your phone at home if you dont want to be caught

I'm still parsing her weird shopping list through my head, and why there were only 5 beef fillets purchased.

I think it's obvious she must have bought additional meat elsewhere and probably with cash for her safe Wellington, for herself, and to account for the alleged "leftovers" she fed the children the following evening - as you do when your lunch guests are all in hospital seriously ill...

I know everyone had a lot of fun at my expense earlier, hohoho, crimes against food, etc - but the Beef Wellington is the murder weapon in this case.

Reading the ABC live blog it sounds like there might not be any other defence witnesses. Is that normal?

She's the first defence witness. The trial is going to go on for at least another fortnight; possibly until the end of June the judge said recently.

I am hoping the prosecution will call rebuttal witnesses, after some of Erin's claims. Whether or not the defence has anyone else to call is still to be seen.