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Yet another child mauled by a dog in the uk *contains graphic image*

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PassTheDuckie · 09/04/2023 17:21

Poor kid. Nuneaton, UK.

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KnittingNeedles · 10/04/2023 09:35

It's maybe not a particular "breed" though. A Heinz 57 type animal. Easy enough to see from the picture what type of dog it is.

AgrathaChristie · 10/04/2023 09:46

For starters we should follow the French system.
Any home that has a dog must display a large sign outside ( no little stickers allowed, the signs are standard size, gendarmes will attend if you have a dog and no sign)
Next , dogs are categorised according to breed and how they’re used ( as guard dogs for example) Categories 1 and 2 must be muzzled and on leads in public. Again, have a dog that’s in a category and let it loose, you’ll have the gendarmes on your doorstep.
I think every dog owner should have to register not just the chip but public liability insurance. There should also be banned breeds.
Dog attacks have soared in Britain and the government are doing nothing .
I’m a life long dog owner and would comply with all the above.

MarshaBradyo · 10/04/2023 10:08

AgrathaChristie · 10/04/2023 09:46

For starters we should follow the French system.
Any home that has a dog must display a large sign outside ( no little stickers allowed, the signs are standard size, gendarmes will attend if you have a dog and no sign)
Next , dogs are categorised according to breed and how they’re used ( as guard dogs for example) Categories 1 and 2 must be muzzled and on leads in public. Again, have a dog that’s in a category and let it loose, you’ll have the gendarmes on your doorstep.
I think every dog owner should have to register not just the chip but public liability insurance. There should also be banned breeds.
Dog attacks have soared in Britain and the government are doing nothing .
I’m a life long dog owner and would comply with all the above.

This does sound good although it’d be interesting to look into why France is still very high in fatalities. A 2021 study of fatal dog attacks in Europe during the period 1995–2016 placed England (with 56 fatalities) as fourth in the top five countries for number of human fatalities alongside Hungary (#1), France (#2), Romania (#3), and Poland (#5)

It’s a couple of years old though. Maybe it has changed since.

Between 2001 and 2021, the average number of dog-related deaths in England and Wales was 3.3 per year. However, in 2022, the rate increased markedly when ten people were killed. “It’s too early to say whether the death rate is an anomaly or the start of a shocking trend,” said Sky News, “but experts say something has changed in the way humans and dogs interact.”

At Alder Hey Children’s Hospital in Liverpool, the number of children attending A&E for dog bites tripled during the first Covid lockdown.

It’s also not to excuse the U.K. We keep seeing children mauled and killed and nothing changes.

I don’t really get the not the breed issue. Fatalities are much higher with specific breeds topping the list.

MarshaBradyo · 10/04/2023 10:16

I was also just reading re how people died on that wiki page, majority American bully plus others such as Cane Corso

Absolutely awful that babies and toddlers are on the list but also elderly lady just sitting in her garden and neighbour’s dog attacked and killed

Some prison sentences have been given for owning dangerous and out of control dog. Not sure why this doesn’t always happen but haven’t looked into the detail

Kpo58 · 10/04/2023 10:17

juliaxxl80 · 10/04/2023 09:31

I am concerned that the press don't name the breed. We ought to have an accurate statistics of the dog attack to ban/restrict offending breeds, however I am afraid that the Government instead will impose dog tax on everyone and real problem won't be addressed

The breed isn't really relevant. It's stopping idiots who turn their dogs into unstable aggressive dogs that is the problem. If we banned bullies, staffs, rotties, German shepherds, etc they will always find a new status dog. It could be a Shar Pei, akita, Airedale or even a Labrador crossed with an unstable cocker spaniel next.

thegreenlight · 10/04/2023 10:38

Our chihuahua turned, got out of the house, attacked other dogs and the person who tried to stop it. It came back without me knowing this had happened and savaged my face splitting my nose. I still have a scar and we had to re home through a charity (who were very aware of the events) as we had a 2 year old at the time. It was completely out of character. If it had been my toddler the injuries would have been similar to that poor child. It’s not just big dogs.

Jonei · 10/04/2023 11:07

thegreenlight · 10/04/2023 10:38

Our chihuahua turned, got out of the house, attacked other dogs and the person who tried to stop it. It came back without me knowing this had happened and savaged my face splitting my nose. I still have a scar and we had to re home through a charity (who were very aware of the events) as we had a 2 year old at the time. It was completely out of character. If it had been my toddler the injuries would have been similar to that poor child. It’s not just big dogs.

Although the chihuahua isn't capable of mauling you to death. Big difference. No?

thegreenlight · 10/04/2023 11:12

I didn’t say it could maul to death - I said it could deliver an injury similar to the one that poor child sustained.

Jonei · 10/04/2023 11:17

thegreenlight · 10/04/2023 11:12

I didn’t say it could maul to death - I said it could deliver an injury similar to the one that poor child sustained.

Although the type of dog that did that also have form for mauling adults and children to death. Which is the whole point. And these dogs need to be on the banned list. Although small dogs, like the one you had, should probably have been put to sleep, not rehomed.

Ricco12 · 10/04/2023 12:30

You do have to remember though the actual risk of death by a dog is very low if you look at statistics

Horses are very dangerous but people happily allow kids on them with no calls to ban

In USA around 7 million people ride horses and around 100 people per year for from it.

There is over 12 million dogs in Uk so the risk is actually very very low.

You kid is actually much more likely to die outside cycling on there pushbike.

Many millions of dogs live happily in homes and don't kill people. Including these giant breeds. (Not that I'd personally own one though but there are many breeds I wouldn't own)

SiobhanSharpe · 10/04/2023 13:08

I think we should ban all breeding of these types of dogs. It's well known which breeds and cross breeds are the problem.
Registered breeders and kennels etc could switch to other breeds. Owners would also be prohibited from selling the dogs, with swingeing fines and possible prison sentences for major offenders. The dogs would be confiscated.
In fact, a ban on all trade in these dogs could be instituted almost immediately, to include crossbreeds, bullys, pitbulls etc. Advertising them for sale would be illegal.
It would take a few years to take full effect but eventually when one is spotted anywhere, in public or on private premises, it can be reported and seized.
I'm a dog lover but I'm not stupid about them.

Jonei · 10/04/2023 14:15

I agree SiobhanSharpe.

Ricco12 · 10/04/2023 14:31

@SiobhanSharpe but where does it end

A well bred Staffordshire bull terrier is known to be very tolerant of children but Labradors are notoriously bad for causing bites to kids

Dogs are a risk to children simple as that some more than others I agree but plenty also aren't . It's about minimising the risk.

Often life changing. Not death but facial injuries , so you ban all bull breeds .. it does nothing to stop kids being injuries

Banning breeds isn't the solution educating people is and restrictions

I think owning a dog in a home with under 5 year old kids is irresponsible perhaps a ban on that would help considering 60% are family pets and aged 2/3 year old kids with injuries to face .

All dogs should be insured and muzzled in public

Leads in public places and big fines and dogs seized if your caught not collecting dog poo up.

Ricco12 · 10/04/2023 14:32

Also a huge clamp down on breeding and advertising dogs needs implemented

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 10/04/2023 14:38

Banning breeds is all very well, but plenty of mongrels bite. And where do you start drawing the line - a cockapoo is technically a mongrel, although many will dispute and say it's an actual breed.

The nastiest bites I've seen have been from little crossbreed terriers.

Jonei · 10/04/2023 14:43

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 10/04/2023 14:38

Banning breeds is all very well, but plenty of mongrels bite. And where do you start drawing the line - a cockapoo is technically a mongrel, although many will dispute and say it's an actual breed.

The nastiest bites I've seen have been from little crossbreed terriers.

Maybe start with the top dogs that have mauled people to death. Seems like a good place to start. Like, erm, American XL bully dogs. You know, the ones like this 👇

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/american-bully-xl-found-park-29645618

'Super breed' dog found in park licking the blood off walker killed by 8st beast

Callum Jones bought an American Bully XL over Snapchat from travellers and the following day, the dog killed his friend Ian Symes who had been walking the beast at a local park

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/american-bully-xl-found-park-29645618

DisquietintheRanks · 10/04/2023 17:04

@Vroomfondleswaistcoat yeah hardly a week goes by when some poor sod hasn't been mauled to death by a crossbreed terrier 🙄

Oysterbabe · 10/04/2023 19:30

This is Justin. He's 10 and he was riding his bike with his cousin when a pitbull dragged him off, ripped off his scalp, ear and shredded his legs. We wouldn't let a lion walk among us and it's time we put a stop to these monster dogs.

ElmTree22 · 10/04/2023 19:38

Oysterbabe · 10/04/2023 19:30

This is Justin. He's 10 and he was riding his bike with his cousin when a pitbull dragged him off, ripped off his scalp, ear and shredded his legs. We wouldn't let a lion walk among us and it's time we put a stop to these monster dogs.

I can't be the only person who's wondering how in the world that child is posing for that photo seemingly pain free?! 😳

thegrain · 10/04/2023 19:38

@Oysterbabe oh my god poor kid! I thought that was a haloween costume or something I'm amazed he's got his eyes open. Is he doing OK now

thegrain · 10/04/2023 19:39

ElmTree22 · 10/04/2023 19:38

I can't be the only person who's wondering how in the world that child is posing for that photo seemingly pain free?! 😳

Yes! Maybe the shock! I was like what!

thegrain · 10/04/2023 19:40

Oh that's made me so sad. How do we stop this from happening?

Oysterbabe · 10/04/2023 19:42

Justin has had many surgeries and grafts and he is doing fantastic while still on a long road to recovery.

Yet another child mauled by a dog in the uk *contains graphic image*
thegrain · 10/04/2023 19:45

Best of luck Justin nice to see him smiling. I hope he has a great future.

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 10/04/2023 22:42

DisquietintheRanks · 10/04/2023 17:04

@Vroomfondleswaistcoat yeah hardly a week goes by when some poor sod hasn't been mauled to death by a crossbreed terrier 🙄

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/baby-pulled-basket-mauled-death-29002159
Yes. Crossbreed terriers kill. You having a personal vendetta against bully breeds doesn't negate the fact that there are more mongrel dogs owned than pure breds, and they are, therefore statistically more likely to kill.

Baby pulled from basket and mauled to death by rescue dog as family 'broken'

Mia O'Connell was killed at four months old by the terrier Dachshund cross who was found standing alongside the baby with blood on its mouth, an inquest heard

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/baby-pulled-basket-mauled-death-29002159