Mick Lynch called for National Strike

For those advocating for a strike, is your aim payrises or the removal of the current inept government?

If removal of government, surely national demonstrations would be effective and raise the point? Without breaking an already broken NHS/ Education system/national infrastructure and damaging the people who need help further?

If payrises, where would the money come from to give every public service worker an above inflation payrise? As a country it’s simply unaffordable.

why is it unaffordable, we found money for dodgy contracts, fake ppe.
We have one of the most complex, convoluted tax systems in the world designed to help the rich keep their money: close a few. Scarp house of lord payments. Make the energy companies pay more.
Also we managed to scrimp and save to give the mps a pay rise.
Dont believe the no money narrative

What did she say when you said that?

I’d rather keep the lights on, thanks

@OnlyFoolsnMothers so sorry my bad, and please accept my apology - bit slow on the uptake today.

I’m a gentile but I feel it’s my duty to point out what a horrible toe-rag he is, along with his miserable flunkies and apologists. I do feel like Mick Lynch’s support base is fairly consistent with Corbyn’s though.

YANBU I can't wait, it is long overdue!

It would entail a bunch of anorak-wearing lefties trying to inconvenience everyone in order to prove that their jobs are in fact completely dispensable as everyone else can just WFH and spend yet another day muddling along with DC at home (plenty of practice at this during lockdowns). Apart from the people who find that the hospital appointments they've been waiting for for aeons are cancelled, who will feel very pissed off and, for the most part, pissed off with the people who are on strike.

I am very strongly opposed to this shitty government, but Mick Lynch is a repellent and dangerous individual who is interested only in Mick Lynch.

@BitOutOfPractice - it's good that you can afford to strike and that you can afford to pay your staff with no work being done. Not many people can unfortunately.

We should slim down the public sector in general as it is bloated and a massive overhead and drain on everything else. It would teach some people some valuable lessons too, especially when they try to sell their skills in the private sector.

Sazzling what does 'slim down the public sector' mean in reality? It means if you can't afford private health or education you just don't get it. I fail to see how anyone can defend that point of view.

Right behind it

Bold to argue for fewer nurses and teachers.

Strawman argument. No one is arguing for that, but well done on constructing and demolishing a strawman. You must be very proud.

So by “slimming down the public sector” you didn’t mean fewer nurses and teachers, who work in the public sector.

Perhaps you should be more specific.

I'm in.

Anyone who is still tugging at their forelock need to wake up.

@NearlyMidnight i fail to see why I can’t when people in the public sector who earn less for doing much more important jobs can. If that makes me “lucky” then I guess I am. Because I’m not living on the breadline like so many others are. I choose to support them. If you think they are fighting a different battle to you, I think you are mistaken.

Rage against the unclean

Yes.

There is not a hope in hell they are losing £5000

It’s not unaffordable. Don’t believe everything the liars in government tell you. Although maybe in this government’s case don’t believe anything may be a better rule.

They’ve already spent more money on rail worker strikes than it would have cost to give them the pay rise they were asking for.
Public sector pay rises would do quite a lot for improving the economy. As would filling the NHS vacancies and putting back the 23,000 beds that have been cut over the last 12 years.
The Tories have already proven that austerity is a bad way to fix the economy in 2010. I’m not sure we need to run the experiment again just to see if we get the same outcome.

You're entitled to think what you like - happily. But my point was that if you can afford not to get paid for days, weeks or months then you're likely to be in the minority. Lockdown was the same - so many people lost all their money, their homes, their livelihoods - and those that sat at home on full pay gleefully preached at them.

Yeah, that bloated public sector. All those nurses and doctors twiddling their thumbs. And I don’t know about you but you can’t move for policemen round here. And I for one am sick of being approached by social workers and GPs on the street, begging for work. And don’t start me on probation officers, fat cats the lot of them. And now teachers, lazy arses the lot of them with their 2:1 classroom ratios. And I for one think trains could probably drive themselves, what with all the train drivers earning eleventy billion pounds a shift. Disgusting it is.

I think my talents are wasted. I should’ve worked for the DM.