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Stryke · 2023-04-27T09:17:48+00:00

[[https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/boy-7-suffers-horror-injuries-29801234#amp-readmore-target https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/boy-7-suffers-horror-injuries-29801234#amp-readmore-target]] Boy, 7, suffers horror injuries after dog bites him in face and head at pet shop WARNING - DISTRESSING CONTENT: Little Mitchell Neville was allegedly attacked by the shop owner's Great Dane after going to buy dog food in Belfast, Northern Ireland YANBU - enough is enough, change the law YABU - but chihuahuas are more aggressive

3BSHKATS · 27/04/2023 14:22

Dogs/pets becoming so popular is a sad reflection of how isolated and lonely people are in society. People buying furbabies because they can't actually afford a real baby, nowhere to house it etc.
Human relationships fucked because we might have to share our stuff with other people, mental illness compounded by home working in isolation. It's all a shambles IMO

KittyAlfred · 27/04/2023 14:22

VincentVaguer · 27/04/2023 14:20

Do you normally catastrophise so much?

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Where did I catastrophise? You didn’t see my child’s injuries, I did.

Thesharkradar · 27/04/2023 14:22

If it's legal for dogs to be running free and unmuzzled then it should be legal for humans to carry some sort of weapon to protect themselves against dogs

Unsure33 · 27/04/2023 14:23

KittyAlfred · 27/04/2023 14:19

Honestly I get so so sick of these threads with the doggy people saying “teach your child not to touch dogs”, as if that’s the root of the problem.

No, the problem is that society has taken a wild animal and attempted to domesticate it. In some cases this has worked, but in many others it hasn’t, and we now have a country full of semi wild animals roaming around who may or may not bite someone at any (totally unpredictable) moment.

When DS1 was a tiny baby in a pram , we were walking through a car park outside a supermarket, a huge dog ran over and licked his face from chin to scalp. Covered in dog slobber. “He’s just being friendly” calls the owner. My innocent baby has been licked by something that has probably just licked its own scrotum. And of course if it had been in a bad mood it could have taken my baby’s face off. What education should I have given my tiny baby I wonder?

Then a few years later DS2, age 6, was mauled in a park by a dog which ran over to him, totally unprovoked. Blood, flesh hanging off, big chunk of his arm removed, stitches, permanent scar. No owner in sight. What education should my 6 year old have had to prevent this I wonder?

Stop telling me to educate my kids to mitigate the risk to them from your pointless unnecessary wild animal. If a dog owner thinks there is the remotest possibility that their dog may attack someone, whatever the provocation or lack of provocation, they should be the ones mitigating the risk by staying at home.

The problem is the people with the trophy dogs are not likely to listen to you at all . So as much as in an ideal world you want no dogs it’s not going to happen . So prevention is better than cure .

And I am a dog owner who got attacked by a family members dog in the home and ended up in hospital.

VincentVaguer · 27/04/2023 14:23

Thesharkradar · 27/04/2023 14:22

If it's legal for dogs to be running free and unmuzzled then it should be legal for humans to carry some sort of weapon to protect themselves against dogs

No it shouldn't. Hth.

KittyAlfred · 27/04/2023 14:23

Thesharkradar · 27/04/2023 14:22

If it's legal for dogs to be running free and unmuzzled then it should be legal for humans to carry some sort of weapon to protect themselves against dogs

That’s a good idea actually.

AriannasGuitarCase · 27/04/2023 14:24

LaughingCat · 27/04/2023 13:02

I don’t think mass muzzling is the answer but at the same time I do think licensing should be brought back. There will always be dickheads who ignore it, just like there are dickheads who drive cars without a licence, but they will be far fewer. In return, we’ll see the vast majority of people who own dogs actually learning how to handle them. While it won’t stop dog attacks entirely, it should reduce them.

This attack took place in Northern ireland, which has dog licensing

HiggleDyPigGeldy · 27/04/2023 14:24

KittyAlfred · 27/04/2023 14:19

Honestly I get so so sick of these threads with the doggy people saying “teach your child not to touch dogs”, as if that’s the root of the problem.

No, the problem is that society has taken a wild animal and attempted to domesticate it. In some cases this has worked, but in many others it hasn’t, and we now have a country full of semi wild animals roaming around who may or may not bite someone at any (totally unpredictable) moment.

When DS1 was a tiny baby in a pram , we were walking through a car park outside a supermarket, a huge dog ran over and licked his face from chin to scalp. Covered in dog slobber. “He’s just being friendly” calls the owner. My innocent baby has been licked by something that has probably just licked its own scrotum. And of course if it had been in a bad mood it could have taken my baby’s face off. What education should I have given my tiny baby I wonder?

Then a few years later DS2, age 6, was mauled in a park by a dog which ran over to him, totally unprovoked. Blood, flesh hanging off, big chunk of his arm removed, stitches, permanent scar. No owner in sight. What education should my 6 year old have had to prevent this I wonder?

Stop telling me to educate my kids to mitigate the risk to them from your pointless unnecessary wild animal. If a dog owner thinks there is the remotest possibility that their dog may attack someone, whatever the provocation or lack of provocation, they should be the ones mitigating the risk by staying at home.

Yes to this. All dangerous or large breeds should just be banned.
They just inconvenience everyone and if you really want a dog get a small and friendly one.
Agree they should be tagged with owner license.
Or maybe we can ban even these from the city so we can stop having to walk around dog poop all the time. Cities all over Europe are just filthy with it now!

Thesharkradar · 27/04/2023 14:25

KittyAlfred · 27/04/2023 14:23

That’s a good idea actually.

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I think it would also be a good idea if people started uploading footage of out of control dogs and bombarding the police or local dog wardens with it at least that way they could build up a database of who the problem dogs and owners are

ThisNameIsNotAvailable · 27/04/2023 14:25

Thesharkradar · 27/04/2023 14:18

Another dog apologist trying to minimize the fact that a small child was attacked by a dog and suffered large and significant facial lacerations

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Don’t be ridiculous

RandomGeocache · 27/04/2023 14:27

Thesharkradar · 27/04/2023 14:11

Instead we have people donating left right and centre to being dogs over from Romania
Wtf is going on with this?? All these massive disease ridden mutts hobbling around our streets. Our animal charities are overflowing with unwanted dogs and yet people are spending money importing feral dogs from third world countries. Jesus wept 😱

I know!

That former BBC reporter Rory whatsit has had loads of coverage for his adopted animal from Romania. The dog is so timid and so afraid and nervous that it spends 99% of the time behind the sofa. And he's being held up as some sort of saint for adopting it, whereas the dog has serious issues, is clearly unhappy, has had a shit life before coming to the UK. But importing a dog like that is a good thing? No, it's not.

greenteafiend · 27/04/2023 14:29

This is one of several reasons why the nonstop doggification of shops and restaurants is concerning. With dogs everywhere in crowded, busy indoor environments, it's just too easy for a child to accidentally step on the paw or tail of a dog of uncertain temperament, or inadvertantly scare or annoy it in some way. One dog attack on a child is one too many.

(another reason being that I don't want to breathe in doggy stink when eating a meal or having a cup of tea)

Mada1985 · 27/04/2023 14:30

Laiste · 27/04/2023 10:35

I used to have Grate Danes. (k=no dogs now for 10 years)
My thoughts are:

Poor boy firstly, of course.

Secondly; it's very unusual to see a grate dane involved in something like this. But then grate danes are rare.

I think every dog has the potential to bite. It is foolhardy to have a dog available for customers to touch in a shop.

I wonder what the family want done?

They have a pet dog of their own - i hope it doesn't spoil the boy's relationship with his own pet.

But can't spell the breeds name

curious79 · 27/04/2023 14:31

I put YABU BUT only because I believe the law already exists in a way it needs to protect people and probably isn't being pursued to its full extent. For example: it is illegal to have dogs off a lead on a public highway, but no-one is being picked up on that. Plus a dog can be seized and put down simply if it puts you in fear - you don't even need to be bitten. I personally would like a move back to times when dogs were not brought into shops and restaurants as standard. It is unhygienic for starters, it provokes allergies, plus if they're not perfect citizens and well socialised with strangers they will bite. In public they should always be on a lead. And parents must always teach children never to touch dogs unless they have sought permission from an owner. Owners need to face up to their incompetence training and socialising their pet and stick a muzzle on them

hiredandsqueak · 27/04/2023 14:36

Thesharkradar · 27/04/2023 14:20

Letting a dog run free on the trails means that walkers runners and cyclists have to navigate around it and are at risk of being chased by it tripped over or knocked off their bike.
Wherever dogs are running free they they dominate the space and ruin it for everyone else.
Dog people are ruining the outdoors for everyone else.

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But there was no other person there. No runners or cyclists because that particular bit is really rough underfoot, steep incline and neither mown or strimmed. Never seen a horse on there either. You seem to suggest that dogs should stay away to make way for everyone else but where I walk there is nobody else there other than dogwalkers and most likely what would happen is the land would be snapped up by developers and built on instead

Bananarama77 · 27/04/2023 14:38

KittyAlfred · 27/04/2023 12:52

Well I taught my kids about not approaching dogs and a dog just came and took a chunk out my child’s arm anyway. So I don’t understand why you think educating kids is the answer.
The answer is to legislate against dogs roaming around everywhere, and for people to stop having dogs that they can’t control, and bringing them to places where they don’t belong.

I’ve never approached a dog in my life but they still run at me every fucking time I go for a run.

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I have never in my entire life been anywhere & have seen dogs roaming around, dramatically over exaggerating. Just because you don’t like dogs doesn’t mean you are right. I hate cats but I accept they will be roaming about because that’s the nature of cats & I ignore them

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Stryke · 27/04/2023 14:38

KittyAlfred · 27/04/2023 14:19

Honestly I get so so sick of these threads with the doggy people saying “teach your child not to touch dogs”, as if that’s the root of the problem.

No, the problem is that society has taken a wild animal and attempted to domesticate it. In some cases this has worked, but in many others it hasn’t, and we now have a country full of semi wild animals roaming around who may or may not bite someone at any (totally unpredictable) moment.

When DS1 was a tiny baby in a pram , we were walking through a car park outside a supermarket, a huge dog ran over and licked his face from chin to scalp. Covered in dog slobber. “He’s just being friendly” calls the owner. My innocent baby has been licked by something that has probably just licked its own scrotum. And of course if it had been in a bad mood it could have taken my baby’s face off. What education should I have given my tiny baby I wonder?

Then a few years later DS2, age 6, was mauled in a park by a dog which ran over to him, totally unprovoked. Blood, flesh hanging off, big chunk of his arm removed, stitches, permanent scar. No owner in sight. What education should my 6 year old have had to prevent this I wonder?

Stop telling me to educate my kids to mitigate the risk to them from your pointless unnecessary wild animal. If a dog owner thinks there is the remotest possibility that their dog may attack someone, whatever the provocation or lack of provocation, they should be the ones mitigating the risk by staying at home.

I'm so sorry for what your child, and you, went through. How horrific.

And as for the dog poster saying you are catastrophising, get to fuck. This dog apologist crap has to end. The flesh was hanging from the poster 's son, and you think she's overdoing her reporting of it? You are exactly the problem with dogs in this country.

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Nordicrain · 27/04/2023 14:41

😂at people who aren't up for a mass extermination of all dogs now being dog apologists. Jeez, this thread is crazy.

Cheapcookies · 27/04/2023 14:42

Her argument is along the lines of yours, that it is up to humans to be able to interpret dogs body language.

I will add what is being missed from my original post...

I believe the dogs owner should be entirely able to read their body language, and to ensure that the dog is not in situations that is doesn't like, which may result in injury.

E.g. I have seen a small child stroking a dog once. The dog growled and bared it's teeth. The owner told the dog off and told the child to carry on stroking him.
Very dangerous and inappropriate.

wurtle · 27/04/2023 14:44

My former classmate collects dogs. She has all sorts and drives to Romania and other east block countries to rescue dogs. Then they try to find someone to adopt them back home.

Nordicrain · 27/04/2023 14:44

Btw, I absolutely don't think dogs should be able to run free. I also would not have a strong or big dog or in fact any dog which is known to be even mildly agressive because I have children and the risk wouldn't be worth it to me. I also think dogs should be kept under control and dog owners should be responsible and punished if they aren't. I think dog owners letting their dog chase runners or knock over children, or leaving their poor behind are 100% wrong.

I think all that, but I also teach my kids to be careful of dogs. I myself am careful of dogs. And I think dogs are generally great.

Funny how you can think all those things all at once, isn't it!

Thesharkradar · 27/04/2023 14:48

wurtle · 27/04/2023 14:44

My former classmate collects dogs. She has all sorts and drives to Romania and other east block countries to rescue dogs. Then they try to find someone to adopt them back home.

I expect she imagines she's heroically saving an endangered species?

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Stryke · 27/04/2023 14:50

Nordicrain · 27/04/2023 14:44

Btw, I absolutely don't think dogs should be able to run free. I also would not have a strong or big dog or in fact any dog which is known to be even mildly agressive because I have children and the risk wouldn't be worth it to me. I also think dogs should be kept under control and dog owners should be responsible and punished if they aren't. I think dog owners letting their dog chase runners or knock over children, or leaving their poor behind are 100% wrong.

I think all that, but I also teach my kids to be careful of dogs. I myself am careful of dogs. And I think dogs are generally great.

Funny how you can think all those things all at once, isn't it!

I used to not be so bothered by dogs. But things have taken a really bad turn. There are soooooo many of them, sooooo many badly trained or just not trained at all, so many off leash, sooo many bites and a few deaths. I think I've just been pushed over the edge by all of that. A single dog on its own, no big deal. Hundreds upon thousands of them now, everywhere, entitled owners taking them into shops and restaurants, it's just got more disasters written all over it, and meanwhile the regular attacks are ramping up.
I do think we need to do something to stop it getting so out of hand.

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Nordicrain · 27/04/2023 14:51

Stryke · 27/04/2023 14:50

I used to not be so bothered by dogs. But things have taken a really bad turn. There are soooooo many of them, sooooo many badly trained or just not trained at all, so many off leash, sooo many bites and a few deaths. I think I've just been pushed over the edge by all of that. A single dog on its own, no big deal. Hundreds upon thousands of them now, everywhere, entitled owners taking them into shops and restaurants, it's just got more disasters written all over it, and meanwhile the regular attacks are ramping up.
I do think we need to do something to stop it getting so out of hand.

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Which seems to be muzzling or killing them all.

Bit extreme, no?

margegunderson · 27/04/2023 14:51

VincentVaguer · 27/04/2023 11:09

There's a really easy way to stop the stress caused by these dog attacks. Stop scouring the tabloids for news on dog attacks and be realistic about the actual reality.

Dogs aren't going anywhere so perhaps start being a bit more rational.

And yet another dog apologist.