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*Contains graphic photo* - To not go back until all completely healed?

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PumpkinPastiez · 27/01/2023 23:53

I had a mole removed 2 weeks ago from the top of my shoulder. I was told at the time I was being over cautious and it was probably a wart.

However it was a stage 2 melanoma. I'm having a wide local excision with flap repair and sentinel node biopsy + node clearance at a cancer hospital In 2 weeks.

I work as a nurse at the moment in theatres, if anyone recognises this story please just keep scrolling! My job is extremely heavy and we are so busy at the moment, I would be expected to go back to normal immediately. I don't have a date for my surgery yet but it will be within 4 weeks, and then I'll need another 6 off work, because of the stitches and staples and the fact my job includes lugging around very heavy equipment.

In the nhs if I was to go back in for the 4 weeks whilst I'm waiting for my surgery date and then go off again it will be counted as a second sickness and I will have to speak with HR about how long I've been off, if I stay off it's just 1 and not as bad.

I also have an infection in the wound so I'm on daily wound dressings and antibiotics to try and clear it up. I've added a photo to show what I'm dealing with.

Aibu to ask my dr for a note to cover the next 4 weeks so this can heal properly and then my surgery can go ahead? Also then I'll get a note from the surgeon at the Christie after my operation.

I know my boss is mad at me for not being in and I really am feeling the pressure to return but omg it's agony and if it's not healed by the end of feb I doubt the Christie will operate because it's a bigger risk.

I just keep getting phone calls and texts about how short staffed they are and how he didn't hire me to take time off. The melanoma diagnosis came out of the blue

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PumpkinPastiez · 27/01/2023 23:54

Oops tw for the photo!

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SnarkyBag · 27/01/2023 23:59

Wow you poor thing that looks sore, combined with the unexpected diagnosis you should absolutely take time off and look after yourself.

I hope the next stage of investigations goes well for you.

CheekyHusky · 28/01/2023 00:01

YANB. Look after yourself first, then worry about your job. Get the sick note.

Your boss should not be messaging you like that whilst you’re on sick leave. Please report him to HR.

Alphabet1spaghetti2 · 28/01/2023 00:03

So- in a nutshell,
A) you have had surgery and are expecting more in the very near future, currently unwell on two fronts 1) post surgical healing 2) recovery from infection.
B) You have a physically demanding job. The surgery is effectively on a joint upon which you will, by the nature of your job, place under more stress/pressure than if sitting at a desk pushing paperwork around.
You Are Definitely Not Being Unreasonable. Recovery impeded now will lead to further sick leave in the future.
they only person who is going to look after your health is you - ask for the sick note. (The Bradford sick leave policy should be abandoned in favour of common sense but that is a separate thread)
Good luck and get that note.

RedCarsGoFaster · 28/01/2023 00:03

Absolutely get signed off. You probably need some time to come to terms with what you're dealing with as well.

I wish you all the best for your treatment.

Fuck your boss. Not literally, but fuck'em.

AdviceOnLife · 28/01/2023 00:04

YANBU. Take the time off. You need to look after yourself mental and physically for what you are next going thorough in 4 weeks.
I hope everything goes well for you 💖

Baconand · 28/01/2023 00:05

Absolutely take all the time off if you can get the fit note.
They don’t give a flying fig about you, so don’t feel in the least guilty and once signed off ignore all the contact from work until you are ready to return.
I’m a manager in the public sector and I don’t treat my staff like this. But I wouldn’t expect anyone to do a physical job with that (my team can WFH so it’s different). Fuck them. They’d replace you in a heartbeat so you owe them no guilt.

PumpkinPastiez · 28/01/2023 00:07

Alphabet1spaghetti2 · 28/01/2023 00:03

So- in a nutshell,
A) you have had surgery and are expecting more in the very near future, currently unwell on two fronts 1) post surgical healing 2) recovery from infection.
B) You have a physically demanding job. The surgery is effectively on a joint upon which you will, by the nature of your job, place under more stress/pressure than if sitting at a desk pushing paperwork around.
You Are Definitely Not Being Unreasonable. Recovery impeded now will lead to further sick leave in the future.
they only person who is going to look after your health is you - ask for the sick note. (The Bradford sick leave policy should be abandoned in favour of common sense but that is a separate thread)
Good luck and get that note.

Yeah you summed it up pretty perfectly! I'm feeling really overwhelmed with everything tbh! My dr rang me today and said they apologise for not taking it more seriously.

I think I'll call them on Monday and ask for a note and then email it to my boss and tell him to please not contact me until I get in touch

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UpToMyElbowsInDiapers · 28/01/2023 00:11

”they didn’t hire you to take time off”??? Who is this human?! Ridiculous!

I’ve been in a tight spot before as a manager, with big deadlines looming and a colleague off sick. That’s my problem to solve. Not theirs.

whitebreadjamsandwich · 28/01/2023 00:13

He needs reported to HR now as he'll be breaching every sickness policy under the sun with his harassment and shitty comments.

ConsuelaHammock · 28/01/2023 00:16

Take the time off and heal. Hope your surgery goes well!

MavisMcMinty · 28/01/2023 00:18

I think it perfectly reasonable to take sick leave for the duration - you have a wound infection and a new unexpected cancer diagnosis.

However, if you were off sick for 2 separate episodes, you have an excellent reason/excuse, and certainly shouldn’t worry about the management/HR post-sickness interviews. As a nurse there is always pressure to get back to work quickly, and nurses’ empathy often only extends towards patients rather than colleagues, but you are entirely justified in taking sick leave at this time. Good luck with the forthcoming surgery! x

BeGentlePeeps · 28/01/2023 00:20

I’m a GP. I’d write you a fit note in a heartbeat, especially given your job. Put in an online request for fit note, it may take surgery a few days (like everywhere, it’s very busy!) but fit notes will be back dated as long as you specify dates etc on your request.

And if I were in your shoes I’d be screen shotting coms from whomever your manager is with a view to following this up, in due course, if they continue being an arse.

xxx

FairyBatman · 28/01/2023 00:20

YANBU to take whatever time you need. The diagnosis comes as a massive shock and you want the primary excision to recover well, also you’re not going to be able to do some physical aspects of your role even if you do go back.

Having said that, do you have a surgery date and are you sure it’ll be within 4 weeks, from referral from my local hospital I waited 12 weeks and a day for WLE and SLNB in the summer at the Christie for a stage 2 melanoma. They told me twice that once the primary excision is out you drop down the priority list.

PumpkinPastiez · 28/01/2023 00:24

@FairyBatman yes I've been told it will be within 4 weeks because it appeared over night and tripled in size over 3 months. It's got a really high mitotic rate and the risk of it spreading is high so the lymph nodes need to be removed pretty quick. I've had a chat with the surgeons secretary today and I was only told it was cancer yesterday morning. It's all happened so fast.

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mrsfollowill · 28/01/2023 00:26

Bloody hell you poor thing- do not even think about going to work- take the time off to heal! Your boss sounds like an utter twat - get signed off properly and look after yourself- your boss needs to find an empathy chip from somewhere- I'm a line manager and my first response to you would be take all the time off you need!

FairyBatman · 28/01/2023 00:35

PumpkinPastiez · 28/01/2023 00:24

@FairyBatman yes I've been told it will be within 4 weeks because it appeared over night and tripled in size over 3 months. It's got a really high mitotic rate and the risk of it spreading is high so the lymph nodes need to be removed pretty quick. I've had a chat with the surgeons secretary today and I was only told it was cancer yesterday morning. It's all happened so fast.

Definitely take the time then, you need to rest and get the infection cleared so you can have the second op ASAP. You need to be physically healthy for the op because the recovery from the WLE is tough.

Good luck with your treatment, I hope hopefully they’ve caught it quick and your nodes are clear!

WetBandits · 28/01/2023 00:37

Oh OP what a horrible shock for you, and to have your boss harassing you like that is unacceptable. He needs reporting to HR (has he said any of this nonsense in writing? I hope he has, the idiot!) and if you are feeling harassed by work in general then please seek NMC or union advice!

I hope all goes smoothly with your surgery and recovery Flowers

ginnybag · 28/01/2023 00:38

You've had a cancer diagnosis

You've had a surgical procedure that isn't healing well

You have a job that would impair your recovery and potentially delay the next, critical stage of treatment

Your boss is a dick, and you've every reason to think they'll be completely unsupportive.

Stay off, OP, and yes, report him to HR. If they've anything about them, they'll put him right back in his box.

thewinterwitch · 28/01/2023 01:00

Is your boss thinking, oh it's just a little skin cancer? I hope your doctor's letter sets him straight. What an insensitive arse. Heal well.

mightymam · 28/01/2023 01:04

Fuck that. Get yourself signed off sick to cover the interim period. If this isn't sickness, then I don't know what else is. And tell you boss to back off. Copy Hr into that email. He's a CF'er

YDBear · 28/01/2023 01:19

Boss’s attitude is insane. Of course you should be off. Screenshot all coms and record phone calls if any and go your best to land him in the shit with HR. It will take your mind off your condition, give you pleasure, and remove an unfit martinet from a position he shouldn’t have.

MrsMotts · 28/01/2023 01:29

As a nursing manager in the NHS you are absolutely not being unreasonable at all. Get signed off for the duration. And keep evidence of all the utterly inappropriate messages your manager has been sending and go directly to HR yourself to complain. This is unacceptable behaviour from your manager. The fact that anyone would consider treating one of their staff like this for any sickness, never mind a cancer diagnosis, is absolutely shocking. And then trusts wonder why they can’t retain staff.

Wishing you a successful surgery, and a speedy recovery. Take as much time as you need (and maybe browse NHS jobs while you’re recovering 😉)

Floralnomad · 28/01/2023 01:52

If nothing else you can get a Drs note for stress as a surprise diagnosis like that has to be stressful . Stop taking calls from work and book an appt with occupational health .

PumpkinPastiez · 28/01/2023 02:04

I keep feeling really anxious about the surgery but I know I need to have it I'm not an idiot.

It's not even the surgery I'm worried about! I used to work at the Christie in theatres and I know a lot of the staff. I'm starting to feel a bit sick about the idea of having my tits out in front of ex colleagues,
I know they'll be professional it's just extremely hard!

I'm going to ask for all the drugs so I remember nothing

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