America's Gun Control

You’ve got to admit the school shootings are an issue though that needs to be addressed

"They have gun crime, we have knife crime."

You can't wipe out a room full of children in seconds with a knife though.

An AR-15 however...

I don't understand 😕 myself why Americans have love/hate relationships with guns culture either,

It's weird as Anything, !

Nothing will change,

As Americans have toxic love affair ❤️ of Guns is so entrenched in their Psyche and Culture,

I am just thankfully glad I live where I do in uk 🇬🇧 and don't have to worry about Guns at all .

It's their issue in America 🇺🇸

We have enough issues at home here to stress worry about.

Why get Worked up about something 😕 that will never ever change @wonderingdaily ?

Just be thankful it's one less thing to worry about in life, as don't live in America,

It obvious that they are not going to get rid or ban guns. But I truly don't understand the range and power of guns that are sold.

That should be the first place to start. Just sell a variety of basic rifles and handguns (with the most stringent checks in place) and place a ban on owning or purchasing automatic or semi-automatic weapons - which seem like the ones most used in the mass shootings.

Yes the guns will still be dangerous and shootings will still happen but maybe the rate and incidence of mass shootings can be reduced? Many of the stories I read the perpertrator purchased an AK-47 the day before etc. This would help in those incidences.

That's honestly the best they can hope for at this point.

Wayne LaPierre's "The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun" also features. Notably quoted today by a congresswoman who clearly doesn't use thought as a medium before expression...

There have been several school shootings during which an armed security guard, employed to protect the children, has failed to do anything about the killer, or as at Uvalde the armed police have all hung about outside the school while a gunman went on killing children inside it (those police were apparently afraid he had a weapon more powerful than theirs). There was a department store shooting at a time when there were at least twenty-five people in the store carrying guns and they may all have been good guys but none of them did anything about the killer. I think there have been about five examples this century of a civilian with a gun stopping someone with a gun: the Washington Post lists eleven, but in more than half of them the bad guy had a knife or was a burglar rather than a gunman on a spree, or the good guy was a cop.

(MTG, you're bullshitting again.)

WeeOrcadian
Remember: guns don't kill people, people kill people.

True. However, people with guns kill other people more readily than people without guns do.

It's quite a new problem; in the 1920s eight mass shooting were recorded, in the 1930s four, in the 1940s three, in the 1950s four, in the 1960s seven, in the 1970s twenty-one, in the 1980s twenty-six, in the 1990s forty-six, including Columbine. That's 119 for the entire twentieth century, against the 128 so far in the first three months of this year. (there are three more days to go, so there might be another, I'm not going to be definitive here.)

There’s a reason the American stereotype is being dense.
When they have a mass shooting basically every year and they very often involve schools.
No doubt pro gun Americans will take offence but the reality is they are just morons. They think the answer is MORE GUNS, it’s farcical.

I saw a comment on SM by an American saying if they were not giving money to Ukraine they could afford to put armed security in all schools.

No words...

He tried. Many times. But ultimately it was impossible for Obama to pass any meaningful laws. And it remains impossible for any other President to change anything.

Why? Because the NRA, and other lobby groups, finance enough Senators and Congressmen to ensure that nothing related to gun control willl ever pass through into law. The root cause is that the US system allows politicians to spend vast amounts on getting elected and has almost no controls on who can pay them the money to do that. Ultimately rich people and organisations own the politicians and it is perfectly legal to do so.

@Albiboba

Yes Americans reputation for being dense stereotype is obvious why other countries people think of them that way,

It's like they have unofficial university of stupidness

Doesn't matter how much guns culture decimate lives,

They want lots more powerful guns to combat the issue,

It's a sick society. They've had numerous presidents shot dead as well from Nixon to Kennedy, or wounded (Reagan).

With the kid shooters they're usually on a lot of anti-psychotic prescription drugs which again is a sign of a sick and lost society.

The constitution can be changed. In fact it has been 27 times. The second amendment is just that - an amendment to the original constitution.

It's called gun control...

The US didn't vote for Brexit.

You do what we do in the UK. You require people who want a gun to apply for a licence. You require them to give a good reason why they need it. You check out thir circumstances and ensure they are being genuine. then and only then do they get a licence.

Live on a farm and need to shoot vermin - OK.
Live in Alaska and need to shoot bears - OK.
Want to shoot targets - OK but you must keep your gun at the gun club.
Live in a city - No. You have no need for a gun of any kind.
Want to shoot bottles for fun - No. You do not need a gun.
Just want it for self defence. No you cannot have a gun - you do not need one.

I would like those in the US Senate and House of Representatives who refuse to support gun control measures to be refused entry into the UK, if they want to come here. After all, they are condoning the killing of children in a way.

You do realise that you are a lot more likely to be shot (and killed) with your own gun than somebody else's, right? That's the risk you take when you decide to go in for gun totin'.

Just sayin'.

Surely you start by introducing background checks and licencing. It's not going to stop all, but it'll reduce the number of guns in circulation.

Not as easy as you might think. Read the second amendment.

I've often wondered what it was that broke the cycle of violence in Northern Ireland. For nearly 30 years both sides remained entrenched and justified another round of 'more of the same' as if this time it would achieve what all the previous times hadn't. And then, eventually, the Good Friday Agreement came and amazingly, almost all of the people on both sides voted for it.

What changed? I've a theory that it wasn't anything that happened in-Province. I think it was the Srebrenica massacre three years prior. For generations, both sides of the Northern Irish divide had deluded themselves that their perspective was the one that mattered and everyone else was wrong. Then, live on our tv screens, they saw what sectarian violence and neighbour killing neighbour looks like when it's someone else. It wasn't far away, alien, foreign ... it was people that looked like them, in some cases even people who went to the same churches as them and worshipped the same God they did. And they noticed that every single civilised part of the world was watching in utter horror at the depravity and cruelty of those pathetic, wretched people. And not long after ... I think the penny dropped. They realised that this was what the world must also be thinking of them. Their stupid parades and bonfires and marching across counties to be outraged by the mere presence of someone not all that different to them. Wretched, pathetic, losers. And they woke up, and changed. And that change has now lasted for almost as long as the Troubles did.

Americans will one day face the same epiphany. Apologising for them isn't saving them. They need to hear what the world thinks of them. That their society is depraved and full of wretched, pathetic, child-killing losers. That includes all the yee-haw gun-toting rootin'-tootin' varmint-hunting apologists. Willing to sit by and watch children die and do nothing about it just because they like shooting bobcats? One day, they'll notice the world sorrowfully shaking their heads and realise they are being held in utter contempt. Everyone is just waiting for the body-count to rise to a level that even they can't stomach and the penny will drop, they'll find a way to change, and everyone will wonder what took them so long. It's easy once you realise that everybody else thinks you are the stupid ones.

Despite what Republican politicians and right wing media might tell you, a significant majority
of Americans do want increased gun control.

Even among Republican voters:

77% support universal background checks;
85% support preventing people will mental illnesses from purchasing guns; and
37% want to ban assault-style weapons.

Obviously the percentages are significantly higher across the population.

Unfortunately, the Republican Party (bought and paid for by the NRA) take extreme positions that often aren’t supported by a majority of their own voters. However, they are safe in the knowledge that most Republicans will continue to vote them based on other issues (which is why ‘culture war’ stories are usually at the forefront of right wing media).

You're being very high and mighty with your responses, chastising people for lumping everyone together, yet all your responses refer the english people as being all the same, so you're either a massive hypocrite, or just as stupid as the gun loving morons.

Take your pick.

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