America's Gun Control

Never called anyone dim (unlike some posters on here who have called a whole population of people stupid, idiots, uncaring etc etc) but the fact is many posters on here don't get it. A lot of people want to change gun laws and are working to do that but our system makes that really f-ing hard. Not lack of concern on the public's side (or at least not the majority) but Citizens United, a stacked supreme court, a patchwork of local and federal laws which tend to give priority to those who are often the minority, corrupt and over lobbied politicians who have been in power way too long and have got way too comfortable, governors who don't give a shit because they know that their state leans towards gun ownership and they don't want to touch that third rail of politics. My point is that saying people on this thread don't care about dead children is insulting when most of the people responding are those who live in the place where they fear their own child dying and are desperately trying to better the situation. Look at moms demand action for a group of people who are actively working to change laws and where they can't change them, are standing for political positions and changing the system from the inside. Look at the people who took a day off today to march to the state capitol on Tennessee to call on their elected representatives to do something. Look at newly elected house reps standing in hallways shouting at their Republican colleagues to do something. Sigh.

Thoughts and prayers are for people powerless to make meaningful change. Politicians shouldn’t be wittering on about thoughts and prayers, outside of their private lives.

How to demonstrate that you don't understand anything about America while not saying that you don't understand anything about America...

It's their choice to have the right to bear arms. But I just cannot get my head round the lack of controls around them

That to me, yes is stupid

I don't need to suggest anything novel. There's a proven way of reducing gun deaths, one actually tried in the US with some apparent success. It was the Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act 1994. It prohibited the manufacture (for civilian use) of assault weapons and large-capacity magazines. It wouldn't stop every mass shooting by any means, but it would be a start.

I wish more than anything that could be reinstated, but the political atmosphere and the number of assault rifles in circulation are very different from how things were in 1994.

Great. Now just tell us how to get it through again, ok? Because I really don't think any of us on the latter part of this thread are voting for politicians who are against this.

You all just keep saying the same things over and over again, patting yourselves on the back for your moral superiority and solutions that fail to take the real world into account.

I was also going to mention Moms Demand Action. A very interesting grassroots group lobbying for gun control and helping candidates to run for various offices on anti-gun platforms.

https://momsdemandaction.org/about/victories/

I totally sympathise with the Americans who want gun reform and just know they are up against it, it must be so demoralising. Its the Americans who say a gun is my right and I'm going to have one and u can't stop me that I have a problem with. These people I say don't care about dead children. And u do have them people obviously who live there. We have had a few on this thread. Conveniently they haven't replied when asked about caring about dying children.

It’s the same old same old. People claiming they want something done, while declaring ‘nothing’ can be done.
you’d think the ‘greatest’ nation on earth might be able to start coming up with solutions, or at least listen to the ideas others have of what to do and where to start.

Can something be done? Of course. Overnight? No. But gradually automatic weapons, weapons of war, can be taken out of daily US life.

AT the end of the day, if the US wants to ban guns, or ban some kinds of guns, people would have to accept the US government forcing their way into otherwise innocent people's homes and forcibly taking their guns from them, which would involve killing them in many instances.

It would be a nightmare. Sales of unregistered/black market guns would skyrocket. Criminals would be making fortunes and America would be split asunder.

@Florenz that’s BS and the rhetoric of the Republicans - the government are going to attack you for your guns!
I thought these ‘good guys’ were law abiding citizens? Suddenly they will break the law?

stop sales of assault rifles and their type, gun amnesty, buy back the guns, campaign and explain, make it socially unacceptable to own weapons of war, then enforce the handing over of illegal
weapons with fines and consequences, while explaining to Bob, Bubba and the other morons why normal people do NOT need automatic weapons.
It’s a culture change and may take a generation or more.
but what’s your alternative? Sit around while you wonder if your kids are going to get murdered at school? In the mall? At church? In the cinema?

My SIL now asks if there are guns in the house her kid is having a sleepover at. Answer is always yes.
Are they in a locked cabinet with ammo held separately? Then kid can go to the play date.
if not. Then she politely tells them she won’t be sending her kid round.

You don't know much about guns, do you?

Automatic weapons are almost always registered with the Feds.

This is the case in many countries, not just America.

I know nothing but an interested why do you say this

Because the post I replied to made no sense.

Great. Why?

The rest of the world watches in disbelief as the US swears it can't protect it's own citizens from gun crime, or stop it's children being murdered in schools and offers arming teachers as a solution.... it really does beggar belief.

They wouldn’t be innocent anymore! If they were holding illegal firearms, they would be criminals. And surely the police are perfectly capable of entering criminals’ homes and arresting them without killing them!

This link may give you an idea of both the thinking and the complexity: rocketffl.com/who-can-own-a-full-auto-machine-gun/

They wouldn’t be innocent anymore! If they were holding illegal firearms, they would be criminals. And surely the police are perfectly capable of entering criminals’ homes and arresting them without killing them!*
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Oh you sweet summer child.

I'm trying to read that genuinely I just keep thinking just the obvious question that doesn't really get answered at all and that's Why? Like why would any reasonable person need a machine gun? U r not living in a war country or a society that has Collapsed? It's just common sense. I get from the article it's like the sense of entitlement really. Which I don't think is a good enough reason.

I hate to point out the obvious but that entitlement is literally written into the constitution.