to find men in drag offensive?

[bibbitybobbityhat]

as in sexist?

I'm sure there are sexist drag acts out there but in general YABU.

I'd think of it as a parody of a parody.High heels,dresses and makeup aren't really what I associate with femininity.

I wear none of the three and consider myself to be as much of a woman as anyone who does wear those things.

sometimes, yeah.

I agree with you. Earlier this year I was walking through the bar area of a holiday camp and had to walk past a group of fat middle aged men dressed as comedy 'tarts'.I had my young daughters with me and I felt suddenly angry that these men were dressed like that around kids. I'm trying to work out why I found it so annoying but I think it is because they parody women. They never dress demurely do they - they always have to have short skirts and huge fake breasts. Why do men feel the need to do this? You don't see groups of women on hen nights with 'comedy knobs' stuck down their chinos

No,they're usually waving them around instead.

Coraln- that's not true Drag.

That's just a bunch of tits who thought it would be fun to dress up as women. Possibly a stag do.

And what DifferentID said.

what is True Drag?

i find the whole 'how hilarious, we are drunk blokes wearing dresses with comedy boobs' thing very offensive, yes
the reason it is so hilarious is that women dress so STUPIDLY with their frilly DRESSES and those comical great HOOTERS and god how funny to see a sensible macho decent hard drinking bloke wearing a STUPID, GIRL'S DRESS, like a big old GIRL

i think a good drag act is a different thing entirely, and is usually more about self-parody or self-mockery rather than sneering at women
good drag acts can also be feminine and sexy and witty, i don't find them insulting

i do find the stereotyped dress / behaviour of some transvestites a bit offensive, even though obviously it is their choice to dress as they wish
i just think it seems to be a warped view of what women are like - when of course women are all shapes, sizes, styles and

personalities

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I don't like stuff like Little Britain, I think it is misogynistic

Pointy-

Lily Savage has been given as an example. ALthough I never truly warmed to the character, I will admit that Paul O'Grady had a brilliant take on things

RuPaul is another example of a polished and experienced Drag queen.

I am talking about the whole spectrum really. From amateurs (as per Corlan's drunken holiday revellers) to high class drag acts that you can see in venues such as The Piano Bar in Soho.

When I was younger I used to hang out with a group of gale male friends and we would go to the Vauxhall Tavern and the Piano Bar and watch really good drag acts like Paul O'Grady (I do have a soft spot for him). I did all this without turning a hair but somehow I don't think I would now. They immediately put me on the defensive on behalf of my sex.

Drag as in the example given by Kooks and Corlan just make me very angry indeed, but it seems that an awful lot of women are NOT offended, and I find that interesting.

Transvestites I don't mind at all. They actually do want to pass for a real woman and look like a real woman.

All drag is a send up to some extent.

All I can say is...yabu, sorry.

I don't like Paul O'Grady either. It is false, they pretend to be sympathising with women, but I think there is an underlying misogyny there, same as Little Britain.

I have a friend who is a transvestite. However, he keeps his female alter-ego for a more intimate side of his life. He isn't in a relationship, but will attend what I term "alternative" parties. So BDSM, which is the world in which She lives.
It's another facet to his lifestyle.

French and Saunders used to dress up as and parody men. Showing the worst side of us of course, but it was funny so you couldn't possibly mind.

I see Little Britain as parodying drag queens rather that attempting to be ones themselves, which is what I loathe. There doesn't seem to be any understanding of the drag act and it does show in the Laydees sketches.

Oh God I really hated those French & Saunders characters.

PMSL Kerry.

Did you tell them you were actually born XX and not XY?

YABU

For some transvestites, it's an integral part of who they are.

Have said twice on the thread not transvestites expat.

But it doesn't really matter, bibbity, if they are or aren't, IMO, which you asked for.

You find it offensive, others disagree.

It's AIBU.

No, I am very interested in everyone's opinion. If you don't think men in drag is offensive then fine.

But men in drag and being a transvestite are rather different, imo, and it is the former I intended the thread to be about. As in men dressing up in order to entertain, as opposed to men dressing as women and going about their normal everyday business.

I'm with you bibbitybobbityhat. Men who dress up in drag as comics are a bit like Al Jolson, Black & White Minstrels entertainers, who thank God we don't see anymore. It is a parody.