to have forgotten what went with frangipan?

[Hullygully]

Skips prettily about the vast empty potentiality of the empty Hall and awaits.

It wasn't intentional...dunno, I was one giant ache throughout. Prob v normal. Have you got names..?

I wish I had a closer age gap, I bet they are very close

We have a couple of names will decide when we see him/her.

Off to pick up DD now

I love your DH Hully - videoing a marooned Hully. Were you flailing about . And he did finally help you up, he could have left you there just bringing you food supllies and the occasional book.

Spain was lovely thanks. We gor DS2 in the pool diving and all . He has been too jessie to go in the last few visits because it is cold. Or possibly just more sensible than the rest of us.
He is having a really bad time still though with the staying overnight thing at school. He gets very distressed and comes home upset and spoiling for a fight or a hug. I spend until the following Monday getting him back to his usual self and then he goes off and it starts again.

We have persuaded him to email or phone me if he gets too upset but on the phone he can't speak terribly well and just gets frustrated. But the emails are just 'Pagboy Is Sad. Is Home To Mummy PLEASE ..
Makes me sad.
Still. It finishes this term and we are actually pulling him out early to go watch Pag the Elder play cricket in Barbados...

That was too long to be a twitter wasn't it

Aw Gibbon - tis a good time of the year to have a little giblet. Ds1 is 17 next week.
I bet you look lovely.
Do people keep trying to rub your tummy? I got that and it irritated me but when someone I love is pregnant I can't help myself and have to rub

Oh Pag, I thought he was doing okay at the residential. I have to say I am the biggest rubbishest soft touch around and if I got that email I would run there in bare feet and never send him again. But I'm sure that's not the answer.

I still feel guilty for dd going to nursery a few days a week when she was 3. DH used to drop her off and not tell me that she cried because he knew I wouldn't be able to bear it. She still talks about it now.

But I don't have any answers for anything.

Barbados tho! Now you're talking. How long are you going for? I have been to Tobago but that's it for the Caribbean.

trust me Hull I have to be talked down by DH.

The thing that makes me sit it out is that we just can't let him retreat into a lfe that is only based around home.
One day we won't be here and if he has not had any experience of being around others it will be too much for him.
But it is hard. He is such a sweetie and is trying to be brave about it. I know they are trying really hard to settle him too.
aw its just shit really [sigh]

He has already put barbados on the calendar .
We are going for 12 days. DS1 will be coming back a bit before us so has a few days alone here . I can fret about that on the beach.

We are staying at very posh hotel so we are going to tempt him over to dinner with us a few time hopefully. It is a bit lame to spend time with your folks unless they are buying you and a few friends dinner - then it is OK

We are trying to get used to the idea that he is actually growing up and will really be going off to uni in a year. The house seems really odd when he is not around.

I am being very whingy today . Sorry ....

Haven't noticed any whinging.

What a nightmare for you. It does work then? They do grow used to it and the other people?

DS finished his exams yesterday and we tried to tempt him out to dinner, but he insisted on delivered pizza and unrestrained hours on COD 6.

Don't worry about DS 1. He'll be back after uni...

No sorry allowed on this thread remember Pag tis what it is here for, I love logging on and catching up with you all/venting/typing inane randomness.

I am so of your trip to Barbados, what a lovely holiday that will be and you must be so proud DS1 and DS2, they are both doing so well

I know it may not feel it with Pagboy but it sounds like he is coming on leaps and bounds even if he is finding the journey a little tough at times.

I am now thinking of my honeymoon in the bahamas the sun, the sand, the sea, the spa.....bloody fab.

Yes am defo at your 12 days of bliss.

What a relief for DS Hully to have finished his exams

I can't let DD go at the mo, feeling v hormonal these last few weeks and keep thinking how her world is going to be turned upside down not having mummy all to herself.

She says how excited she is, just hope the reality measures up for her [doubtful]

She'll be fine, Gibbon. She'll take her cue from you. I used to sit and feed dd (for the usual 7 hour marathons) and ds would potter about with bricks or whatever very patiently. There was only the once when he came over, stared at me very intently, and then slapped her on her big bald head.

I knew what he meant.

at de-schooling Hully boy with pizza and home.
Ds1 finished yesterday too and spent a few moments in a foetal position then went out to an all night party.
I suspect he will be back when he gets hungry...

Aw Gibbon. DS1 was so excited when DS2 was due and he really did love it. He tells me of coming into our room and seeing DS2 in between us where he used to crawl every morning and thinking 'oh - its not the same now'. But he loves him and was such a help.

The idea of getting used to knew people is a growing skill so we fight the fear try to embrace it. But it is so hard because his inability to express himself leaves him very vulnerable. If someone hurt him he literally couldn't tell us. But we have to balance the worse outcomes and having only us as his 'safe' place is great in my head but not great in reality.

The worst bit you know is that he still does not understand death and we cannot make him get it. He still asks about my dad. So my sad thought ( when that way inclined) is that one day he will just think I left him and didn't say goodbye or ever come back to see him. He will just think I chose to leave him alone.
So I need him to understand that others can help care for him too.

Oh I do get maudlin when he isn't here.

On the plus side he is planning to go to work with his dad when he is bigger. 'Go on the train and do computer' is apparently all that DH does. When asked what I do he replied 'mummy is cleaning'

oh Hully - what did you do when he slapped her? You must have been torn between telling him off and nodding in understanding manner..

I hope you are cleaning, madam.

Pag, you mustn't think about the death stuff. Really. We torment ourselves something terrible with this stuff and it does no good. An asteroid might hit the earth tomorrow and make it all immaterial.

I think you are very brave and sensible.

When he slapped her I said, oh dear, don't slap her head, or something equally inane and then we both pretended it hadn't happened. It was only the once and I think he just needed to get it out of his system. After a few months she spent all her time awake standing on my lap facing me, 3 inches from my face which she grasped in both hands so I couldn't move my gaze. DS was terribly patient (and still is). Dread to think what it would have been like if she'd been the older..

I suspect his verbal dyspraxia simply meant he couldn't say 'mummy is fucking about on mumsnet and buying shoes'

I think older children are very patient and surprisingly un-bitter.

Your two do sound lovely chips off the old block.

Do you mean I like to stand on people's laps and hold their faces in a vice-like grip?

I can assure you I hardly ever do it now, unless well paid.

Oh pag, am weeping here reading your fears that pagboy will just think you left him. Hopefully, over time and with the way he is doing so well he will come to understand more.

I can absolutely understand why it's so important that he learns new skills and meets new people

DH was more trouble than DS. He used to carry her about and forget she couldn't walk, so put her down standing so that of course she just fell straight on her face.

God knows how she isn't malformed.

Do you mean I like to stand on people's laps and hold their faces in a vice-like grip?

I can assure you I hardly ever do it now, unless well paid.

Can you two please stop sending me from weeping one moment and snorting tea out of my nose the next?

You are both so lovely, witty and all round good eggs. See, I'm all soppy again.

Bloody hormones, tell anyone, and I'll deny it.

oh Gibbon, you and your hormones
Actually his not getting death is curiously charming. When we go to my mums he always says 'grandad is at tescos'. It is nice to think of my dad wandering the ailse looking for 2 for 1 deals on biscuits. he would enjoy that

Hulster - I was thinking more of your pleasure in slapping passing bald pates. Tis legendary.

Are you going to master twitter d'you think? If you do I shall get Ds1 to help ma and will follow you in stalkerish manner.

It's mastered dear gel. I am on there as IamHully. However, as said earlier, my idleness and sloth is currently stronger than my Messianic megalomania...

My grandmother had Alzheimers. Before my granddad died, he had trays of pills for different days and hours. Let's just say they all got eaten, but when and by whom no one could be sure. Then when he died, she of course could never remember and had to be told (and upset) over and over. Good bloody grief.

oh poor grandma, and how sad and tiring to have to keep doingthe telling.

Life is a fucker at times.

i have a child like confidence in the power of omegas since they helped DS2 so much. I take then as I reasonably figure that if I can remain fit and alert for all time then DS2 will be fine.
How hard can immortality without any kind of degenerative effects be?

I am not going to stalk you if you are dull.

I am horribly dull.

Off to wait for DS2s bus now.

See you later baldy and pod girl

mwah mwah