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Original poster

to love the fact that this was caught on film....

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posieparker · 07/05/2010 13:25

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/2010/05/07/election-2010-bnp-campaign-chief-bob-bailey-caug ht-on-film-allegedly-kicking-asian-youth-86908-22241293/here

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posieparker · 07/05/2010 13:34

shameless bump

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BAFE · 07/05/2010 13:36

Yeah, I bet that asian kid thinks twice before he spits at someone again.

cupcakesandbunting · 07/05/2010 13:38

I may invite a ruddy good flaming for this, BUT...

the guy spat on him. BNP or not, he doesn't deserve to be spat on. That's lower than punching someone in my book. No matter what an odious tit someone is, spitting on them is just vile. Never been a championer of Prescott either but I cheered when he punched that guy that egged him. People think they can physically attack politicians because they think they won't/can't react. It's a bit wrong IMO and is the resort of someone too thick to get their point across with words. The guy deserved a retaliation though this one was a bit much...

bintofbohemia · 07/05/2010 13:40

Bah, the link is gone...

BAFE · 07/05/2010 13:41

link here

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posieparker · 07/05/2010 13:52

His response was completely OTT and he's a grown man.

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bintofbohemia · 07/05/2010 13:53

I don't condone spitting, but the BNP guy comes off looking like a proper psycho. And it's hard to tell, but was it the BNP guy who started it by giving them grief in the first place?

larks35 · 07/05/2010 13:54

if you look at the film shown of the Daily Mail site (I know, it was the only other link I found). It looks like Bailey taunted the youths first "How many of youse are robbers" and that is why they went over to him, he then started pushing them away and only after this did one of them spit at him, his reaction then was way over the top and quite frightening. I can't believe anyone wants people like him to run our country

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/election/article-1273583/General-Election-2010-BNP-candidate-Bob-Bailey-fil med-fighting-Asian-men-key-battle-ground-Barking.html

Vallhala · 07/05/2010 13:55

What cupcake said. Spitting is inexcusable.

larks35 · 07/05/2010 13:57

and the way all his henchmen joined straight in. God, it's made me feel quite ill.

DuelingFanjo · 07/05/2010 13:58

" I bet that asian kid thinks twice before he spits at someone again"

wtf does the fact that he is Asian have to do with anything?

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posieparker · 07/05/2010 13:59

thanks larks, can't imagine he would have said that to a group a white youths.

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posieparker · 07/05/2010 14:00

Someone in the BNP gang also said something about 'the filth'.

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NormalityBites · 07/05/2010 14:02

I feel so sick after watching that, that's just horrible. Spitting is nasty, but he was so condescending, I would have had trouble walking away if I were the lads. He almost seemed like he was acting, like it was staged

mayorquimby · 07/05/2010 14:03

no sympathy for either of them. If you decide to act aggressively towards someone either because you want a fight or think you can intimidate them and they'll do nothing back and then spit on them I have no sympathy if that person then decides to knock lumps out of you.

mayorquimby · 07/05/2010 14:10

"It looks like Bailey taunted the youths first "How many of youse are robbers" and that is why they went over to him, he then started pushing them away and only after this did one of them spit at him, his reaction then was way over the top and quite frightening."

Well he actually says something along the lines of "how many is there of us?" although it would appear the men who came over misheard him in the same way you did.
As for pushing them first, he does put his hands on them but only after they've come over in an aggressive manner and invaded his personal space.They're trying to square up to him and stand toe to toe.So he quite reasonably in this situation tries to get them to back away.
I have no doubt he's twat but people who are trying to excuse the asian guys who come over are just doing so because of their hatred of the BNP. When really you should condemn both.
If you go around spouting hate-filled views and being a member of the BNP chances are you're going to be spat at and I'll have little sympathy for you.
If you go around trying to intimidate and spit on people then someone who isn't the least bit scared of you is going to hit you back and I have no sympathy for you.
What that video shows is 2 groups of dickheads getting in a fight.

Froid · 07/05/2010 14:13

No sympathy. You spit at someone, you're likely to get punched. No matter what colour you are. Too many people walk around thinking they can do what they want with no consequences.

Morloth · 07/05/2010 14:16

Regardless of politics/race questions, if you spit on someone you can hardly be surprised if they give you a kicking in return.

Today's lesson is: "Don't start something and then whine when someone else finishes it".

FranSanDisco · 07/05/2010 14:19

Totally inexcuseable to spit - deserved everything he got. BNP are scum but then so are people who spit.

mayorquimby · 07/05/2010 14:39

"Don't start something and then whine when someone else finishes it".

exactly.

QueenofDreams · 07/05/2010 14:44

Yup - if someone got in my face like that, put his hand to my head in a gun shape and then spat on me, I would damn well deck him too.
Yes the BNP are twats, but they don't have to lie down and take being spat on.
Agree with mayorquimby 'two groups of dickheads getting in a fight'

larks35 · 07/05/2010 14:59

I'm not trying to excuse or sympathise with anyone. I don't feel I need to excuse the youths in order to be shocked and appalled that a man who wants to represent people in parliament and make decisions on our behalf behalf can react and behave in such a thuggish way. 2438 people voted for him to represent them

sitdownpleasegeorge · 07/05/2010 15:07

I'm more intrigued by the size of the backside of the woman who is caught on camera right at the end of the video clip.Her bottom seems to be out of proportion with her top, do you think she has protective inflating trousers " press button X to inflate if caught up in a street brawl"

Morloth · 07/05/2010 15:08

What is the difference between this a declaring war on someone you disagree with? Scale?

Humans are jumped up monkeys, we are inherently violent, some of us hide it better than others.

FranSanDisco · 07/05/2010 15:16

I remember driving home from my sister's in North London to East London and getting in a traffic jam which resulted in a man spitting across my side window because I didn't give way to him - we were bumper to tail and no way to lt hum through. My mother, 65 yo, at the time had to be restrained from punching his lights out. She usually behaves more like ladylike. Those youths were actually men (all over 18 yo imo) and looking for trouble - they found it. Did they think BNP thugs would stand by? Idiots the lots of them.

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