to be getting a bit shocked at how much the BNP seem to have moved up?

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... in this election? Am watching the results, and am currently feeling quite shocked that the last 2 results have seen the BNP up a fair bit.

AIBU to be feeling a bit ?

Was an immigrant to the UK BTW, have left now as I was finding the whole in your face immigrant hate too much to take. Still have my citizenship (well, I paid a lot of money and worked my ass off for it).

I was a bit aswell, i didnt think anyone voted bnp

yeah there seems to be a solid 1500 or so in all 3 seats so far, plus a similar number UKIP.

that adds up to quite a lot of racists if it is the same across the nation

Its the upswing that's bothering me. They seem to be legitimised quite a bit and its scaring me to death.

Agree totally - they've kept their deposit in two of the seats. It's put me right off PR to be honest.

Blame the respectable lot-for allowing immigration to get completely out of hand.It's the only way peopel feel they can make thier concerns heard.

shocked but sadly not surprised. people can be so ignorant of what it means and they hook people in by throwing out a couple of policies where people look and think "oh yeah - thats reasonable" - like their policy on crime for eg. all looks very 'noble' so people get suckered in.
we would all regret it if they got in cos then they would show their true colours. and ive found out that alot of normal everyday folk from small towns have smaller minds where immigration is concerned.
we need more diversity training in the public sector (im thinking of the NHS!!) and schools. at the min i work in the NHS and have been totally and utterly shocked by the racist attitudes of most of the people i work with.

a colleague actually said to me the other day that hitler had the right idea.
that is frightening.

More diversity training?

Are you mad??
So that we all spend even less time doing what we are piad to do??

Please tell me more about the nature and content of proposed 'diversity training'?

Do you really believe that a morning spent in an overheated meeting room with a fat woman called Pat banging on about diversity changes anyone's minds?

in professional life it should. i watch people get turned away because they cannot speak english or because the people i work with act as judge jury and executioner. they decide who can and who cannot be seen based on their own prejudice. i see this daily. i see them shout things out when im dealing with immigrants because they are "bloody foreigners"
i think in the NHS this shouldnt be a factor in deciding who gets seen by a doctor and who doesnt.
last week i took a phonecall from a hospital about a women who spoke little english who had very preterm twins. she was suffering with post natal depression but when she had tried to see a doctor she was told that unless she brought someone with her who spoke english she couldnt have an appointment. so she didnt seek help even though our surgery has access to a telephone translation service. that women is now seriously ill weeks down the line because someone decided for her that she couldnt access help. that was a doctors receptionist. and thats wrong.
so yes - diversity training in the NHS would be a good thing. at my place of work rumours are rife that immigrants get housing and payment to come into the country all at the expense of british nationals. someone has to tell these people they are wrong.

If you are that concenred about it, you should be undertaking a whistle blowing procedure.

'at my place of work rumours are rife that immigrants get housing and payment to come into the country all at the expense of british nationals. someone has to tell these people they are wrong'

These people aren't wrong actually.
You are.

Vicar - that doesn't sound like people needing diversity training, it sounds like people needing training in doing their damn job!

ive blown the whistle. ive been put on extended probation for my trouble.
not that it matters to me as im joining the police in july so dont give a rats arse what they do to me in the meantime. im moving on.
ive complained. they know it.
some of my colleagues have voted BNP today. i know because they asked me to do the same.

I'm in my early 20s and am quite shocked and extremely saddened to hear people my age supporting the BNP. I'm going to be horribly judgey here, but it's people who went to the same primary school as me in a run down area who haven't really moved on and done much with their lives and blame immigrants for their problems. I find it incredibly insulting as I'm the granddaughter of immigrants who contributed far more to the country than the likes of them ever will.

the problem is that they are not wrong about council housing- people are not actually stupid and if they've been on a waiting list for a council house for years but see the house next door, then next door but one, then opposite, all filled with recently arrived immigrants, it is not helpful to tell them they are somehow imagining this. Of course, there is no rule that says 'foreigners get the council houses over local born residents' but maybe there could be a rule that saysyou are not entitled to a council house unless you have been resident in the UK for 3 years. This really is an issue that is driving people to vote BNP, they are not reading their policies in great detail or thinking 'that tw*t on the telly, he's great him', they're thinking council houses and jobs

Allow me to share a conversation that is taking place on my 18 year olds facebook page....

bnp get rid polish ppl from iran rape young lasses and get off wit it

not all polish r bad i am half polish nd born and lived here me whole life nd a can't get a job coz AV the sick stinkin Paki bastads nd i totally agree the get away with murder x

yup plus my family lost our jobs by the ilegal ones taking all the work x

Ano a hate it i can't get a job or a flat coz the FUCKERS have taken them all x

WORDS FAIL ME RIGHT NOW! Is this why they are gaining support! Misinformed youth!

clearly moondog, more people are fuckwits than i give credit for - and if the cap fits then wear it.

ive 'blown the whistle' whatever the fuck that means. i arnt some bloody hypocrite.

im leaving and have nothing to lose in telling it like it is, but they dont yet know that and i am being penalised for making a stand, putting me on extended probation because i have made waves and im on less money than everyone else until i come off probation.

cant wait to tell them ive got into police and to stick their job and racist attitudes up their arse.

Why is it that pro-BNP posts on Facebook etc are always written in a standard of English that most immigrants would be ashamed of?

Blowing the whistle refers to formal raising of grievances. it doesn't just refer to general verbal allegations.
If you are being penalised for speaking out, you need to gewt onto your union.

I think you might find that life in te police is far from a bed of roses...

I dont actually know what to say. I put a comment on it asking him if he was joking but removed it.

Im honestly stunned.

I am related to the person who wrote some of that.

no moondog, im already a special constable and it is a bed of roses compared to the NHS. ive not come across a single racist in the station i work from, those attitudes simply are not tolerated.

ive raised a formal complaint in the job im leaving - already done it. ive posted on this before. no point in going to union - as A) im not in one and B) they do sod all anyway. ive phoned ACAS. ive not been there a year so no leg to stand on if im dismissed. they can simply say i wasnt suitable for the post.

like i say. no problem for me as im leaving so nothing to lose but we have ineffective management who already know its a problem.

there is a case for diversity training because so many untruths abound. it would be good for some of my colleagues to find out the facts behind immigration before jumping to ridiculous conclusions.

Y'know what the problem is? That people would have no bleeding idea how the economy would actually react if ALL the immigrants left. When my husband and I made a decision to leave, a university lost a highly trained environmental scientist and the NHS lost a trained psychotherapist.

I wish for one day ALL immigrants would stay at home, then we can see exactly what they contributed and how the economy would nosedive without them.

It makes me so mad to be lumped under a label that says 'immigrant' without even having considered the contribution I made to British society. But you know what? Its the UK's loss, and I hope that more highly trained immigrants make the decision to leave.

I can't beleive that voters are using the BNP as a means of protest. Leave alone their policies on immigration, has anybody even read what they have to say about the role of women?? Shocked is not the way to decribe my reaction, I am actually feeling sick to my stomach.

I'm concerned by people like my brother-in-law. He's a civil servant, reads the Sun most days and when he's drunk he spouts the most ridiculous BNP type drivel that we daren't confront for fear of him getting verbally agressive, not to mention him not taking it in when he's drunk anyway, and when he's not drunk he's not interestd in discussing non-football related issues like politics.

I don't know what to do to challenge views like his.

MrsArchieTheInventor, unfortunately there is nothing you can do with people like that, but hope that one day they will come to their senses and understand the damage they will eventually do to the country.

I'm someone of completely opposite views to him - I voted locally (Kevan Jones) on the basis of him being a decent local MP and the rest not even bothering.

Brother in law (I suspect) voted on the basis of "immigrants out", a view spurred on by disillusion concocted by the Sun's view of his impressioned 'current immigration policy' (though he hasn't actually bothered to find out the facts on the issues he purports to support).

I don't know how to argue against views like these. I reason as best I can when confronted, but I don't know what to say to folk like my brother in law.

I swear to God, if I was the PM of the country I would get rid of, or at least regulate to within an inch of its life, that horrible tabloid :-) I hate it with a passion!!