To think Dr Who writers are losing it.

[peasontoast]

Just because they had some fantasy about DW and his assistant doesn't mean they should force it on everyone else. I watched tonight with my 10 year old and the final scenes made me really cringe.

trice, what makes you think that a kissogram is a bit of a slapper?

and also, none of us should be ASHAMED about sex. our kids shouldnt feel embarassed talking to us about it.

the thing is, is that its hard to see where the 'showing all young girls as slappers' line ends and the 'we are ABLE to show women who are confident with their own sexuality' begins.

if its a man it wouldnt matter. it wouldnt even be MENTIONED. it would just be seen as a plot line, the lechy man.

captain jack naked in front of the trinny and susannah robots.

infact yes, all of you who were uncomfortable with this scene
Captain Jack: discuss.

I'm not remotely mortified discussing sex with my kids.

I mortify them on a regular basis

But ds1 is naturally embarrassed.

DS2 couldn't give a hoot.

Nowt to do with me [grin}

haha! i make it my personal responsibility to mortify my 17 year old at least once a week.
and i mortify my DH, but then he turned round in tesco's and shouted 'STOP FOLLOWING ME YOU MAD WOMAN' as if i was a stalker, and walked off giggling while a load of concerned shoppers edged away from me...

I wasn't uncomfortable with teh scene. Just want a sexless dr who

Haha, britfish that is excellent.

And I do agree, why should a woman wanting sex cause an outcry? And it's not about it being a family show, it was innuendo, and not likely to be picked up be children. Any children who do pick up on it are already well aware of sex!

An innuendo?

A woman lying across a bed with her legs open stating that she wanted sorting out?

After half undressing and trying to snog a bloke?

Blimey...

It wasn´t the sex, it was the rubbish script & bad acting that disappointed me.

She didn't have her legs open! She had one knee slightly bent!

And "sorting out" is an innuendo, what child would think that meant sex?!

Nothing wrong with snogging a bloke, should children not see kissing?

kaloki, exactly. any kid who does pick up on it is aware of sex, and if they ask any questions, just say that Amy has fallen in love with the doctor and wants a kiss
shes far less annoying than billie bloody piper, she was a worse role model, proper damsel in distress bollocks.

Mmmm... Captain Jack naked.... mmmm....[Homer Simpson drool smiley]

Mind you - although I hated the way it ended last night, I am currently watching the CE series with DS (he has just turned 7) and was relieved that when the policeman asked the Doctor whether he was having a sexual relationship with Rose (when she describes herself as his companion), it sailed straight over DS's head. He was much more interested in the Slitheen

Ooooh, I just saw the new episode (after reading the 1st page of this thread) and was expecting it to be awful, but found it really sweet. [soppy emoticon] Esp the bit where they're in the woods and he comes back to hold her hand and tell her it'll all be ok. The end bit I thought was more comical than anything else.

I think Amy is a fab character - she's been really gutsy since the 1st episode (like when the Dr says the crack must be really scary cos nothing else scares her) and when they go round the village where she lives, everyone knows and seems to really like her.

I didn't take to Matt Smith straight away (and the awful clothes!) but he's growing on me.... the angels on the other hand still scare the bejezus out of me!

Oh and when reclining on the bed - her tights were about 120 denier, so not that revealing!

I find the current plots overly complex. The doctor's flitting from scene to scene and fiddling with technology in the last episode made no sense to me at all.
The angels were much better last time round when the pace was slower and eerier and the plot made more sense.
He's trying to cram too much in.

Did you notice tho... when he came back.... it was not the very same dr that had left her..... he had his coat back on..... and the other dr was way ahead with riversong.... In other words... It was a future dr (still Matt Smith IYSWIM).

The sex bit was a bit pointless, but in keeping with Amy's devil may care attitude. Much less annoying than BP's WHNING/PINING after the dr... she just grabs and snogs!

AND RTD might have gone, but SM was one of his main writers, and wrote some of the BEST scripts for the seasons previous! (including Silence in the Library... and my personal FAVE The Empty Child/The Dr Dances... with the creation of JACK).

Also sort of fancying MS n a kind of "no I shouldn't" kind of way.

Oh and "bad beans, bad bad beans...." Never a truer word spoken. Besides, it made me snort my coffee.

Mrsdoasyouwouldbedoneby:

HOLD THE PHONE.
what was that about future doctor [still matt smith] and a present doctor at same time??
oh my god [runs to bbciplayer like a nerd]

Steven Moffat is amazing.
and Jack's character is pretty amazing. awfully sad. and Torchwood was fantastic...until they decided to do entire series in one week and then it all went to shit....

but Matt Smith has nothing on Tennant, sorry. all those clips in confidential sob

I agree 2rebecca with the plots seeming to be overly complex. I'm a simple bird, and lately watching Dr Who, i'm wondering what the hell i just watched when the credits are rolling!

Let's hope you're right Mrsdoasyouwouldbedoneby, or it's a major continuity error.

I was totally open-minded at the beginning of the series and loved the first episode. I like Matt Smith very much and think that he has the potential to be a great doctor, but the writing over the past few weeks has just been shit. Something just isn't quite gelling with this series, and I think they've introduced a major storyline (cracks in the wall) far too early and far too unsubtly.

DH is whingeing that the Angels are supposed to be solitary as if they look at each other they turn each other to stone forever (as in Blink) but now they are running round as an army looking at each other all the time...a bit inconsistent.

The new Daleks look like "Dalek by Terence cOnran" and not scary.

Amy Pond needs some self esteeem.

It also pissed me off that they turned River Song into some sort of man hunting Vamp witht hose ludicrous shoes at the begining of the last episode, sort of "she may be intellectual but she's still sexy".

Oh, please, can we have a female character who isn't trying to be sexy. Next week we appear to get drool in the cleavages of a bunch of vampire women.

I think Stephen Moffat has a few problems with women's sexuality.

YANBU

I love DH but lately its not a children's program - the last 3 episodes left DH and I saying "that was good but can't believe its on at the same time as In The Night Garden!!"

DW - sorry

Oh, and the doctor is also talking in 2010 teenage slag as well.

"so not good"

EUGH!