to think that if B&B's can state 'no kids' then why not 'no gay people'...?

[guiltyandfedup]

I think BOTH are wrong by the way.....BUT as far as I know children are citizens and should be entitled to 'human rights' the same as the rest of society. But often DP and I have found that they will not 'accept' children- what grounds have they to discriminate against them?

The reasons given are 'the comfort of other guests etc etc'. Well in that case why shouldn't B and B owners be able to argue that having gay people in the establishment could cause 'discomfort' to other guests or the oners themselves if it is a total taboo within their cultural or religious beliefs.

Juast wanted to guage others opinions as its been in the news a lot today but no-one seems to have noticed the paralel!

well, I wnat my dog in a B&B too then. she is far better behaved than most humans,kids or gays .

May the good lord protect us from parents who remain utterly convinced that their own children are uniquely non-annoying to people who don't know them.

Your kids are annoying, sorry. They just are. I don't want to meet them in a fancy B&B but don't worry, I'll make sure I go to an adult orientated one rather then turn up at some child friendly place and make cats bum face at you while you teach your child independence by letting them run free at the breakfast buffet.

in that case fallon I'd let your dog in and leave you outside.

Morriszapp.

Actually heard a mother tell her friend that her DS was "just expressing his personality" when he was cannoning off other peoples' tables and spilling their tea in a cafe last week.

Why do some parents try to disguise sloppy parenting as middle-class parenting?

she would be quite happy with that,dont leave any kids with me tho'

Eek.

Dog evangelists. The only people more worrying than kid evangelists.

Nobody will be 'turned away' from a B&B for having kids. You tell them you have kids when you book, if they can't accommodate your kids, they say so, and you find another one. The men in the paper recently were physically turned away from a B&B that they had already booked and were expecting to stay in.
You don't just turn up at a B&B without telling them you are bringing children. Do you?

would they be allowed to actually state they dont take gays in their info,so you they knew beforhand? i dont know.

ah, but then you are going to go down the Assisant dog route,i bring up Guide dog pups,its better now but I used to have hassle,then you are going to get disabled acess issues.I suppose you have to accept, its their home and thier rules, im not sure

elle bing, no Im not a dog thingy, I quite like having time out,im just making a point.

We had ddog in a bandb last year. They have a dog owner's room and a contract to sign. Ddog got a cooked breakfast in a napkin, and enjoyed his holiday. (I can see that dogs aren't human and can be 'banned', but i can't see how a business can discriminate against human customers)

Why pay £40 plus to stay at a seedy British B&B with swirly carpets and lingering smells of last week's gravy, when God has now invented the £19 Travelodge? They don't care whether you are gay or straight or whether you've got children, they just want anyone's money

But dogs, children, wheelchair access, all these things need particular equipment or accommodation which may not be present in a person's home. Gay people do not.

I love that Ddog by the way - it's not an abbreviation, just a term of endearment

To put it simply; gay people are being discriminated against because of who they choose to be in a partnership with. Dogs and kids are discriminated against because they smell and leave sticky poo where they shouldn't and are unpredictable.

That is all.

I want ddog staying at my b+b. Yes I know I don't have a b+b but I don't care

I actually heard a mother ask two children and their parents if they could give her son a chance to play now.

This was at the park and all three children were on the roundabout but her son was getting cross because he wanted to lie back and the roundabout not to move whereas the two girls wanted to, well, go round on it. All 3 kids were about 5.

I was gobsmacked then remembered that some parents actually do think that everyone else's world revolves around their children too.

Firstly, I don't mind staying somewhere with children around who are polite and well behaved all the time. That does rule out a huge number of children. Not that their parents would agree of course. you can't tell a parent whose child is "just being a child" or "expressing themselves" that they are actually being a little shit.
Secondly, children do all sorts of cool things that I want to do but can't because I'm a grown up. I want to play in the ball pool. I want to get in things for free. I want to punch a clown in the nuts and not get arrested.
Thirdly, gays can sometimes be a pain in a hotel running around late at night and drawing(Leaving make-up) on things. First hand experience.

Because you are a child for a limited and predictable period of time, but you are gay for life?

Ddog stayed in the doggie room in case his lingering smell might upset anyone. (He doesn't smell as bad as my boss's damp pullover but that is for another day). He pooed outdoors and we scooped and disposed. And in checking out places for this year, we have discovered a b and b which is happy to have gay couples and dogs. It is in Northern Ireland. (Ddog also likes to sit outside cafes and pretend he is on the continent!)

YABU, kids are different to adults and to run an establishment that caters for children can mean ensuring certain health and safety standards that can be too expensive to bother with, especially when you are expected to offer cheaper deals for kids and babies.

What gets me about this whole story - the B&B that refused the homosexual couple on "religious grounds". does she also refuse non-married heteros? Has that ever bothered her? If not, why not?

What if a couple having an extra-marital affair turned up at this B+B? What if a straight couple turned up and did bumsex on their holy bedsheets? What if the man in a couple coveted the landlady and she is someone elses' wife?

There's a whole tin of worms that we could open to be perfectly fucking honest.

Because there are no laws against the discrimination of children.

I think if you run a Guest House/B&B and are having people stay in your own home then you should be able to choose who stays - end of. Your house, your choice - why not?

EricNorthmansmistress people do turn up at guest houses which they have pre booked and not informed at the time of booking that they have children. My parents own a guest house and it was where I was brought up, it's a tourist town and I know many other b&b (etc) owners. Parents turn up to stay in a double room and inform the proprieters they have a sleeping bag and the child will use that to sleep on floor!

My upbringing also allows me to see the simple practicalities of not allowing children. My parent's guest house only has double bedrooms. So where is the child supposed to sleep? Ok a younger child could sleep in a travel cot but the rooms are not massive and many of them simply don't have space for that. Hotels generally have bigger rooms but guesthouses and b&b's are generally smaller more homely and quaint.

And what about older children who can't go in a cot? Some families used to request rooms next door to each other-1 for parents and one for children but my parents, understandably, worried about unknown children alone in their rooms. Parents also didn't want to pay the adult price for the 'children's' room as it makes for a very expensive holiday. However, my parents loose money if they give a reduction so why should they?

Because the law of the land says that it is illegal for a business to discriminate on grounds of race, gender, disability or sexuality. Itr is not illegal to discriminate on grounds of being a child.

Why is this so hard for people to understand?