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AIBU in thinking that all readers (and writers) of the Daily Mail should be put to death?

321 replies

TiggyD · 22/03/2010 17:38

Well?

Right-wing, over-reacting, paparazzi funding, health scare loving, minority hating sub-literature for busy bodies, racists and little Englanders who live in the past?

You can assume that the people in the BNP who can read both buy the Daily Mail.

Be nice; you just know that somebody at the Mail will read this

OP posts:
claig · 23/03/2010 19:45

she lives in France. Believe me she is a very brave woman. Read some of her stuff and maybe you will see why. Bravery is not only the preserve of embedded journalists.

amber1979 · 23/03/2010 21:36

claig do you work for the Daily Hate?

I'm just loving the idea of global warming being a "socialist policy". Just sounds so wonderfully american - like the whole freedom fries thing.

Will people please stop refering to this rag as a newspaper? It's a gossip sheet, a tabloid rag. The Independant, the Times and The Telegraph can all be counted as Newspapers.

The Daily Hate is The Sun for people with conservatories.

mirlady · 23/03/2010 21:39

and whats worse the daily mail have bought over one of our irish papers so we are now bombarded with racist scare mongering panicers!! oh no we were that already !! i suppose thats why they bought over the original paper!! lots of irish bigots !! no fools those daily mail people!

Hi from ireland by the way

claig · 23/03/2010 22:40

I think I'll have to apply to join the Mail's subscription department .

j0807bump · 23/03/2010 22:54

mil reads the mail and i am personally getting very sick of her cutting out and keeping every single 'miracle health cure article' because i know at some point she will produce another from said publication completely contradicting the first.

Gay40 · 24/03/2010 08:34

Anyone with more than one brain cell knows that whatever is reported in the papers/online has some sort of bias, and is an incomplete story anyway. The trick is not to think it's the absolute truth.

I prefer to read a range of news stories if I'm sufficiently interested to get different slants. It's human nature to read the paper that confirms your own opinions. Hence why I give the tabloids and celebrity shite a miss. I'm not interested in who has ballooned to a size 2 this week.

amber1979 · 24/03/2010 08:50

"The Daily Mail Oncology Project thedailymailoncologicalontologyproject.wordpress.com/"

claig · 24/03/2010 09:11

amber1979, thanks for linking to that site. Very useful, it allows us all to get access to all that useful information in one easy archive. Please continue posting more such links if you find them. I've already added that one to my Favourites.

ManicMother7777 · 24/03/2010 09:19

Gosh. I will stop reading the daily mail instantly. Can anyone tell me though where else I can read what Cheryl Cole's up to?

amber1979 · 24/03/2010 09:23

Glad to be of service claig.

You know what would be interesting, if someone did a Dave Gorman style experiment and followed every single piece of health advice in the mail for a year.

I'm far too keen on bacon sarnies and cheap red wine myself.

Ivykaty44 · 24/03/2010 09:29

I read flat earth news last Easter, it opened my eyes and tbh I was really shocked at how the media and press work and what happens. I had thought I knew what happened...

It takes a look at a lot of newpapers and there editors and how they operate.

It has made me look at all the media and press with a different slant.

I have not though worked out how to obtain the news.

read whatever you like but at least do some research about what happens in the back office so to speak of the newspaper you read.

claig · 24/03/2010 09:37

I'm with you 100% of the way on bacon and wine, and also animal fats, salt, red meat etc.
I think you need to stop listening to the carousel of revolving experts on our TV screens reading from their pagers and autocues and start listening to the Mail instead

www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-432892/More-red-wine---good-you.html

www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1240932/Bacon-eggs-help-pregnant-women-boost-babys-intelligence.h tml

nigelslaterfan · 24/03/2010 09:43

A bit unreasonable but I empathise with your passion.

mayorquimby · 24/03/2010 11:05

Hmm a left-wing position which wants to silence and ignore anyone who does not agree with their opinion. It's about par for the course with modern 'liberals'

nigelslaterfan · 24/03/2010 11:08

The DM is more insidious than that surely?

People don't want to silence the DM they just want it to stop it's hysterical whipping up of prejudicial nonsense!

I mean report things but don't scare monger

claig · 24/03/2010 11:13

the Guardianistas are frightened of the Mail because it is the only paper that exposes them to the public. That's why they want it shut down. They don't want the Sun or the Telegraph shut down, because those papers aren't landing any knock-out blows, unlike the Mail.

merr · 24/03/2010 11:16

I read it in the pub on a sunday for a laugh, will i be put to death, if so yabu!
if not yanbu....

claig · 24/03/2010 11:16

shut down is too strong a term, it's more of an attempt to marginalise the Mail

daftpunk · 24/03/2010 11:22

claig....I'm liking your style..

claig · 24/03/2010 11:25

I think that on this issue we are on the same wavelength

mayorquimby · 24/03/2010 11:29

"People don't want to silence the DM they just want it to stop it's hysterical whipping up of prejudicial nonsense!

I mean report things but don't scare monger"

Well it's clear from this thread that at the very least the OP does want them silenced.
As for the second point it ebcomes a very muddied water when you start trying to define what's reporting and what's scare-mongering. I don't read the DM and I disagree with most of their views yet I'm equally abhorrent of the way in which the Guardian blatantly pushes their own agenda, yet I defend their right to do such things.If you want to go down the line of factual reporting then fine, but that would rule out all opinion pieces and agenda based media (which at this point is 99.9999%) not just those that you feel are right-wing scaremongering or inflammatory.
My main problem is that modern liberals appear to me to be the most facist people of all in that they don't seem content to disagree with others views, they appear to feel that everyone should be forced to agree with their way of thinking. I always understood liberal to mean that everyone is entitled to their own beliefs and opinions as long as they do not attempt to force them on anyone else, yet that is what a lot of left-wing self-proclaimed liberals do now a days.

claig · 24/03/2010 11:36

mayorquimby they don't want a free, open and honest debate because they know that they would lose that debate. If their true agenda was revealed, they would lose. The Mail goes a small way in exposing their true agenda and that's why they get hysterical about it and start screaming that's it unfair. The Mail won't let them off the hook, so they want to change the rules.

mayorquimby · 24/03/2010 11:45

Well I don't know about being afraid or knowing they would lose the debate claig, that ones up for grabs.I think there's some debates the mails have scored points on and some the guardian. In general I think both papers are Tabloid-esque in their presentation of the facts and their cherry-picking of stories and reports to suit their agenda, yet both do at times get hold of a story and work it well so that you can glean something from them.

I do agree with your point that at times the mail will expose their agenda or point out their inaccuracies and so they want to shut them up but the mail do the same thing at times by picking up on (for example) a piece of progressive legislation and working it to the most extreme example (Builders no longer allowed cup of tea on the job it's PC/Health and Safety gone mad) to work it to their own agenda and the Guardian would be right to expose the mail on that front.

daftpunk · 24/03/2010 11:48

Agree MQ; Modern liberals are the biggest facists around, you just have to look at the Jan Moir incident..."liberals" sending her death threats because she dared to have an opinion on homosexuality...the B&B couple have had similar threats....their facism is actually getting out of control...they have become like wild dogs.....anything upsets them and they attack...

claig · 24/03/2010 11:56

the Mail's agenda is for less control, rules and regulation. Less bureaucrats, freeing up individuals. So it always looks for stories that demonstrate where the state is increasing its control. This is because it thinks that this is harmful for the country, and it worries about where this will eventually lead. But it is prepared to debate. As shineoncrazydiamond said earlier in the thread
"Funny how I never see a thread with the title ' How I wish all Guardian readers would just die ' from DM readers or words to that effect... and they're supposed to be the 'tolerant' ones???"

the reason is that Mail readers don't fear debate because they know they will win. Guardian readers fear debate because they will lose and they want to stop the Mail scoring points as they have no answer to them.

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